Topic: Afghan Taliban Hang 7-Year-Old Boy to Punish Family
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Sat 06/12/10 09:14 PM

" ... Should I keep repeating until it sinks in how hypocrite and pointless this "war on terror", which has not accomplished anything whatsoever? ... "


Sadaam and his boys may disagree with that statement ...

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Sat 06/12/10 09:15 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Sat 06/12/10 09:59 PM






ACTUALLY, u just proved that you cannot say all Muslims.....and cannot consider all Muslims Taliban, which you have blatantly stated in the past. You believe no Muslim is trustworthy and that sir is racist. Just because Taliban and terrorists do those things does not mean all Muslims do those things.

Can ya' be a little more explicit who ya' talkin' about?flowerforyou

Lpdon statements from previous posts........I am just saying there are Muslims trying to fight there way out of the terrorism and Taliban control......I feel he is racist on all accounts and am glad he is not in government anymore.


rofl I am very far from racist actually. It is taught in the Quran to hate all infadels and to kill them.


No that is not taught in the Quran.


Scuse me but...

Qur'an:9:88 "The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."
Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
Qur'an:9:29 "Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."
Qur'an:8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."
Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
Qur'an:9:14 "Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them."
Qur'an:8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."


As you were saying????


And the foot goes right into the mouth again!




Same crap as the old testament of the bible

OOPS I SAW IT.

LIKE I SAID SAME CRAP AS THE OLD TESTAMENT OF THE BIBLE.

SO MAKES CHRISTIANS JUST AS BAD.

Which quran did you use?

There are more than one.

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=7&ID=9801&CATE=1426

http://www.answering-islam.org/Green/seven.htm#compare

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124494788

http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?type=ARTICLES&id=1137165211

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Sat 06/12/10 09:16 PM


" ... Should I keep repeating until it sinks in how hypocrite and pointless this "war on terror", which has not accomplished anything whatsoever? ... "


Sadaam and his boys may disagree with that statement ...


How is Saddam different from the Saudi prince or the Egyptian dictator?

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Sat 06/12/10 10:01 PM







ACTUALLY, u just proved that you cannot say all Muslims.....and cannot consider all Muslims Taliban, which you have blatantly stated in the past. You believe no Muslim is trustworthy and that sir is racist. Just because Taliban and terrorists do those things does not mean all Muslims do those things.

Can ya' be a little more explicit who ya' talkin' about?flowerforyou

Lpdon statements from previous posts........I am just saying there are Muslims trying to fight there way out of the terrorism and Taliban control......I feel he is racist on all accounts and am glad he is not in government anymore.


rofl I am very far from racist actually. It is taught in the Quran to hate all infadels and to kill them.


No that is not taught in the Quran.


Scuse me but...

Qur'an:9:88 "The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."
Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
Qur'an:9:29 "Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."
Qur'an:8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."
Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
Qur'an:9:14 "Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them."
Qur'an:8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."


As you were saying????


And the foot goes right into the mouth again!




Same crap as the old testament of the bible

OOPS I SAW IT.

LIKE I SAID SAME CRAP AS THE OLD TESTAMENT OF THE BIBLE.

SO MAKES CHRISTIANS JUST AS BAD.

Which quran did you use?

There are more than one.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Green/seven.htm#compare

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124494788

http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?type=ARTICLES&id=1137165211


And there are four versions of the bible too along with the new testimate. bear in mind the Old testimate was the history of Judea. The New testimate is the new Contract with Christianity (supposedly...). I think it is a dubious excuse to hold the Old Testimate against Christians in general.

Not to defend or absolve Christianity but they did have three crusades and two Inquisitions. Acting like Christians of the past does not make Islam any better either!

Islam thought Jesus was a major prophet but they received persecution for following his teachings so they embraced Mohamed instead.

That does not dispel the fact that there is a direct reference in the Qur'an.

Heck, I was misspelling it all along!

Also there are two questionably different versions of the Qur'an, Hafs and Warsh but that is still under study!

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Sat 06/12/10 10:06 PM








ACTUALLY, u just proved that you cannot say all Muslims.....and cannot consider all Muslims Taliban, which you have blatantly stated in the past. You believe no Muslim is trustworthy and that sir is racist. Just because Taliban and terrorists do those things does not mean all Muslims do those things.

Can ya' be a little more explicit who ya' talkin' about?flowerforyou

Lpdon statements from previous posts........I am just saying there are Muslims trying to fight there way out of the terrorism and Taliban control......I feel he is racist on all accounts and am glad he is not in government anymore.


rofl I am very far from racist actually. It is taught in the Quran to hate all infadels and to kill them.


No that is not taught in the Quran.


Scuse me but...

Qur'an:9:88 "The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."
Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
Qur'an:9:29 "Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."
Qur'an:8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."
Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
Qur'an:9:14 "Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them."
Qur'an:8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."


As you were saying????


And the foot goes right into the mouth again!




Same crap as the old testament of the bible

OOPS I SAW IT.

LIKE I SAID SAME CRAP AS THE OLD TESTAMENT OF THE BIBLE.

SO MAKES CHRISTIANS JUST AS BAD.

Which quran did you use?

There are more than one.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Green/seven.htm#compare

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124494788

http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?type=ARTICLES&id=1137165211


And there are four versions of the bible too along with the new testimate. bear in mind the Old testimate was the history of Judea. The New testimate is the new Contract with Christianity (supposedly...). I think it is a dubious excuse to hold the Old Testimate against Christians in general.

Not to defend or absolve Christianity but they did have three crusades and two Inquisitions. Acting like Christians of the past does not make Islam any better either!

Islam thought Jesus was a major prophet but they received persecution for following his teachings so they embraced Mohamed instead.

That does not dispel the fact that there is a direct reference in the Qur'an.

Heck, I was misspelling it all along!

Also there are two questionably different versions of the Qur'an, Hafs and Warsh but that is still under study!


If it is dubious to hold the old testament against the Christians then it has to be the same for the same verbiage in one of the Qurans.

The Quran that I read had no reference to infidels in it and I found that some do not believe "infidel" is the right translation of the original word.

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Sun 06/13/10 04:33 AM
Christianity is not guiltless in waging war on behalf of Christ.....to me any religion that lets blood on behalf of its higher powers to wrong...The Holy Roman Catholic Church waged Holy Wars for many centuries itself. I am Christian and do believe in Jesus, but will say war and hurting other in the name of God just does not seem the charitable christian thing to do.

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Sun 06/13/10 05:18 AM



" ... Should I keep repeating until it sinks in how hypocrite and pointless this "war on terror", which has not accomplished anything whatsoever? ... "


Sadaam and his boys may disagree with that statement ...


How is Saddam different from the Saudi prince or the Egyptian dictator?


Ummmm ... he's DEAD ... ?

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Sun 06/13/10 09:21 AM




" ... Should I keep repeating until it sinks in how hypocrite and pointless this "war on terror", which has not accomplished anything whatsoever? ... "


Sadaam and his boys may disagree with that statement ...


How is Saddam different from the Saudi prince or the Egyptian dictator?


Ummmm ... he's DEAD ... ?


Thank's to the great leadership of a former President who remanes nameless and who didnt play tge blame game.

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Sun 06/13/10 09:48 AM
They kill off too many 7 year olds, they'll soon run out of virgins for their martyrs.:laughing:

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Sun 06/13/10 09:53 AM
Geesh do we really have to quote every remark in order to respond to one part it kills my phone.

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Sun 06/13/10 11:22 AM









ACTUALLY, u just proved that you cannot say all Muslims.....and cannot consider all Muslims Taliban, which you have blatantly stated in the past. You believe no Muslim is trustworthy and that sir is racist. Just because Taliban and terrorists do those things does not mean all Muslims do those things.

Can ya' be a little more explicit who ya' talkin' about?flowerforyou

Lpdon statements from previous posts........I am just saying there are Muslims trying to fight there way out of the terrorism and Taliban control......I feel he is racist on all accounts and am glad he is not in government anymore.


rofl I am very far from racist actually. It is taught in the Quran to hate all infadels and to kill them.


No that is not taught in the Quran.


Scuse me but...

Qur'an:9:88 "The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."
Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
Qur'an:9:29 "Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."
Qur'an:8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."
Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
Qur'an:9:14 "Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them."
Qur'an:8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."


As you were saying????


And the foot goes right into the mouth again!




Same crap as the old testament of the bible

OOPS I SAW IT.

LIKE I SAID SAME CRAP AS THE OLD TESTAMENT OF THE BIBLE.

SO MAKES CHRISTIANS JUST AS BAD.

Which quran did you use?

There are more than one.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Green/seven.htm#compare

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124494788

http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?type=ARTICLES&id=1137165211


And there are four versions of the bible too along with the new testimate. bear in mind the Old testimate was the history of Judea. The New testimate is the new Contract with Christianity (supposedly...). I think it is a dubious excuse to hold the Old Testimate against Christians in general.

Not to defend or absolve Christianity but they did have three crusades and two Inquisitions. Acting like Christians of the past does not make Islam any better either!

Islam thought Jesus was a major prophet but they received persecution for following his teachings so they embraced Mohamed instead.

That does not dispel the fact that there is a direct reference in the Qur'an.

Heck, I was misspelling it all along!

Also there are two questionably different versions of the Qur'an, Hafs and Warsh but that is still under study!


If it is dubious to hold the old testament against the Christians then it has to be the same for the same verbiage in one of the Qurans.

The Quran that I read had no reference to infidels in it and I found that some do not believe "infidel" is the right translation of the original word.




One more time, The Old Testimate is the History of Judea. The NEW Testimate is "the word."

The Qur'an is the Islamic version of "the Word."

BIG BIG DIFFERENCE!

If you cannot make the correlation maybe it is time to pick up a bible and actually read it. I had it hammered into me for over 6 years in grade school. I also read the Qur'an (English translation) and the sick thing was the number of annotations to words that bear different and multiple inflections in Aramaic. Hell, I even read the Book of Mormon (COUGH COUGH! WTF! The author had a very creative mind putting it nicely! Whatever gives them peace in their hearts I guess.)

You are comparing Apples to Oranges. The New Testimate never said "Kill non-believers!" It says to convert them but not through violence. The Qur'an on the other hand DOES instruct the faithful to put the infidel under their heel until all the world is Islam.

Does it even occur to you the Qur'an and the bible and the Torah all have common roots? All recognize Abraham as their progenitor. This whole fight is all Cain and Able on a grander scale over who is God and who worships him better!!!

So why not post the title and author of the Qur'an you read? I would love to see if it is annotated properly!

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Sun 06/13/10 12:36 PM
I do not have the Quran that was given me anymore, I looked for it yesterday. So I cannot answer what version it was.

You do not believe that an abortion clinic bomber uses the old testament as justification for their killing actions? Just one example of someone using the "supposed word of god" to justify terrible acts against humanity.

It is universal when it comes to religion.

"My religion is right and all should convert", it just depends on the mind frame as to how far they will take it to make it happen.

The old testament of the bible may actually be more violent than the quran.

I have read comparisons before. One of the links I think I posted on an earlier post.

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Sun 06/13/10 12:39 PM

I do not have the Quran that was given me anymore, I looked for it yesterday. So I cannot answer what version it was.

You do not believe that an abortion clinic bomber uses the old testament as justification for their killing actions? Just one example of someone using the "supposed word of god" to justify terrible acts against humanity.

It is universal when it comes to religion.

"My religion is right and all should convert", it just depends on the mind frame as to how far they will take it to make it happen.

The old testament of the bible may actually be more violent than the quran.

I have read comparisons before. One of the links I think I posted on an earlier post.


Some good points, but the Unitarian Universalist church hasn't done that(that I know of)-thus you can't say your assertion is "universal".

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Sun 06/13/10 12:42 PM


I do not have the Quran that was given me anymore, I looked for it yesterday. So I cannot answer what version it was.

You do not believe that an abortion clinic bomber uses the old testament as justification for their killing actions? Just one example of someone using the "supposed word of god" to justify terrible acts against humanity.

It is universal when it comes to religion.

"My religion is right and all should convert", it just depends on the mind frame as to how far they will take it to make it happen.

The old testament of the bible may actually be more violent than the quran.

I have read comparisons before. One of the links I think I posted on an earlier post.


Some good points, but the Unitarian Universalist church hasn't done that(that I know of)-thus you can't say your assertion is "universal".


The universal part is the statement "my religion is right and all should convert".

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Sun 06/13/10 12:45 PM



I do not have the Quran that was given me anymore, I looked for it yesterday. So I cannot answer what version it was.

You do not believe that an abortion clinic bomber uses the old testament as justification for their killing actions? Just one example of someone using the "supposed word of god" to justify terrible acts against humanity.

It is universal when it comes to religion.

"My religion is right and all should convert", it just depends on the mind frame as to how far they will take it to make it happen.

The old testament of the bible may actually be more violent than the quran.

I have read comparisons before. One of the links I think I posted on an earlier post.


Some good points, but the Unitarian Universalist church hasn't done that(that I know of)-thus you can't say your assertion is "universal".


The universal part is the statement "my religion is right and all should convert".


I would agree with that principle, except for Agnosticism.

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Sun 06/13/10 12:50 PM
Agnostics don't really have a religion. They stand in the gray area between complete non belief and the possibility that there is a god.

They make no decision about it one way or the other.

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Sun 06/13/10 01:34 PM
Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Sun 06/13/10 01:35 PM



I do not have the Quran that was given me anymore, I looked for it yesterday. So I cannot answer what version it was.

You do not believe that an abortion clinic bomber uses the old testament as justification for their killing actions? Just one example of someone using the "supposed word of god" to justify terrible acts against humanity.

It is universal when it comes to religion.

"My religion is right and all should convert", it just depends on the mind frame as to how far they will take it to make it happen.

The old testament of the bible may actually be more violent than the quran.

I have read comparisons before. One of the links I think I posted on an earlier post.


Some good points, but the Unitarian Universalist church hasn't done that(that I know of)-thus you can't say your assertion is "universal".


The universal part is the statement "my religion is right and all should convert".


Actually, if you take the time to actually read about them, they embrace all religions. http://www.uua.org/

But, since you're not concerned with piddling little things like facts, this probably won't matter to you. How sad that bigotry has engulfed your soultears . grumble I hope you find enlightenment soon.

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Sun 06/13/10 02:46 PM

It's not so much the people as it is the groups of Taliban that are doing it.

Maybe it's just time to start dropping the nukes all over the world, eradicate the human species off the face of the Earth and let the world begin anew?

Unfortunately, this would be the only way to eradicate all violence.

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Sun 06/13/10 02:50 PM
Taliban, Al Queda, I'm glad I fight them! I wish death for nobody except for the people who try to bring it to me. It makes me glad to be a Canadian soldier allied with the yanks! Don't worry....we WILL win this fight. We are already!! They made the mistake of attacking us, they wanted to provoke the western giants. There's only one problem with their little plan.....IT WORKED!

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Sun 06/13/10 03:08 PM

Taliban, Al Queda, I'm glad I fight them! I wish death for nobody except for the people who try to bring it to me. It makes me glad to be a Canadian soldier allied with the yanks! Don't worry....we WILL win this fight. We are already!! They made the mistake of attacking us, they wanted to provoke the western giants. There's only one problem with their little plan.....IT WORKED!


And my hat goes off to your snipers! DAMN YOU GUYS ARE GOOD SHOTS! THAT'S GUN CONTROL!


And to think how many lives are spared for every one of those rat bastards you put down!

I wish I could send you guys a crate of the really special .50 ammo that goes BANG with a big fireball! I KNOW you would put it to good use!

I thank god there are men and women like you with the resolve to do something about our enemies rather than negotiate with them! I'm pro gun and ALL for what you are doing!

GOOD HUNTING! Want to really make a statement to those turbine headed murderers? When you get to a place where you are getting ready to go into the field... make a big show in front of the locals of killing a pig and bleeding it out. Then in public in front of all of them dip the bullets into the pig blood, load up and go hunting. Even the most two faced locals will see you mean serious business and will be less hesitant to try any backstabbing like they are so fond of!

Those Islamic rat bastards will shart a rock when they realize you are firing at them with bullets that will defile them in a way that will deny them heaven. When word gets to your enemies that you are dipping bullets in pig blood they will not want to face you for any reason.

If you are not familiar with this tactic look up 'General Black Jack Pershing in the Philippines WWI.' He had to deal with Islamic extremists back then pulling the same shart they do now. Using pigs was part of his solution. It worked!

Making an Islamic eat pork is VERY bad to them! They would rather starve to death. Any contact with anything porcine is a defilement that Allah will not stand for in their mind. Unfortunately Obama is a total Pu$$y with no balls to really fight a war so our soldier's hands are tied!

Hopefully this is a solution to the problem we all face your commanders can appreciate!