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Topic: So Much For Unbiased 'Reporting' ...
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Fri 06/04/10 10:12 PM
Okay ... This kinda stuff SHOULD have been over and done with after we defeated Nazi Germany in '45 ... evidently we still have the Nazi mindset in the White House 'press corps' (to use a term) ... this woman has just lost any shred of credibility she may ever have had - it's time to ban her sorry asss from the press room - but that ain't gonna happen ... she fits right in with the crowd in the White House ...

http://www.breitbart.tv/helen-thomas-tells-jews-get-the-hell-out-of-palestine-and-go-back-to-germany-poland

boredinaz06's photo
Fri 06/04/10 10:30 PM




I wonder what kind of broom she rides?

Headroller's photo
Sat 06/05/10 12:10 AM
Edited by Headroller on Sat 06/05/10 12:11 AM
Well she's right on one point, they went to Israel as occupiers...
Seriously, because an ethnicity was nearly wiped out in Europe, that legitimizes pushing out native and forming their own country? spock

*brace for bashing*

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 06/05/10 12:51 AM





I wonder what kind of broom she rides?
Just hope she'll soon use that Broom to ride out of Town!

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 06/05/10 12:53 AM

Well she's right on one point, they went to Israel as occupiers...
Seriously, because an ethnicity was nearly wiped out in Europe, that legitimizes pushing out native and forming their own country? spock

*brace for bashing*
Not bshing you!
But search around,on how much of the Land was actually purchased!

FearandLoathing's photo
Sat 06/05/10 02:02 AM
*cough*Fox News*/cough*

markumX's photo
Sat 06/05/10 04:22 AM


Well she's right on one point, they went to Israel as occupiers...
Seriously, because an ethnicity was nearly wiped out in Europe, that legitimizes pushing out native and forming their own country? spock

*brace for bashing*
Not bshing you!
But search around,on how much of the Land was actually purchased!

no land in Jerusalem was purchased and this is a fact. They have no business being in Jerusalem or any part of Gaza strip. This was taken illegally, even Netanyahu has admitted to it.

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 06/05/10 04:31 AM



Well she's right on one point, they went to Israel as occupiers...
Seriously, because an ethnicity was nearly wiped out in Europe, that legitimizes pushing out native and forming their own country? spock

*brace for bashing*
Not bshing you!
But search around,on how much of the Land was actually purchased!

no land in Jerusalem was purchased and this is a fact. They have no business being in Jerusalem or any part of Gaza strip. This was taken illegally, even Netanyahu has admitted to it.
Have you checked what >Jordan did to East-Jerusalem after '49?

s1owhand's photo
Sat 06/05/10 12:35 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Sat 06/05/10 12:35 PM
laugh

Jerusalem was always the capital of Israel going back to earliest recorded history. Israel regained full sovereignty of Jerusalem as well as control over Gaza during the 6 day war in 1967.

You do realize a large part of the Israeli population comes from the middle east right? Most of the people in Israel came from the neighboring countries when they expelled their jewish populations taking their possessions without compensation...and their descendants.
Plus the jews who lived their since antiquity. Jerusalem was one of the earliest recognized capitals of any country and that was the capital of Israel before the rise of Rome.

here ya go:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/jewref.html

and

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/ishisttoc.html

Headroller's photo
Sat 06/05/10 04:22 PM
Let's take a look at history, shall we?

The land that is contested in that area was once called Palestine. The refugees that were sponsored to move to Palestine, by in turn the British, the League of Nations, underground refugee railroads and finally the UN, essentially to fulfill the religious goal of Jews returning to Jerusalem and occupying the land that was claimed as a divine gift: the "land of milk and honey" and all that jazz. The immigrating Jews provoked open fighting and revolts with the native Arabs which were the overwhelming majority in the area even up to the end of WWII in 1945.

The event that caused the nation we know as Israel to be formed was two years of open warfare between Arabs and Zionists living in Palestine and also neighboring Arab nations. The conflict pushed out ~80% of the native Palestinians and left the Jews sitting on the land to claim it as their own with the blessing of the UN and ceasefire agreements with their neighbors.

Had the Zionists entered Palestine without causing this open warfare and integrated to the local population peacefully, then I'd be inclined to support whatever Israel would be today. But sadly, Israel owns nationhood by means of political favors and military conquest. THEY ARE OCCUPIERS. Even if there was a Jewish presence in Palestine before, they conquered the country in the name of a religion.

It's not surprising that a large portion of the Jewish population in Israel is from neighboring countries; an understandable reaction to the way Israel muscled it's way into the Middle East. But that may be out of context, on your or my part slowhand I don't know.

/RANT

boredinaz06's photo
Sat 06/05/10 04:44 PM

Let's take a look at history, shall we?

The land that is contested in that area was once called Palestine. The refugees that were sponsored to move to Palestine, by in turn the British, the League of Nations, underground refugee railroads and finally the UN, essentially to fulfill the religious goal of Jews returning to Jerusalem and occupying the land that was claimed as a divine gift: the "land of milk and honey" and all that jazz. The immigrating Jews provoked open fighting and revolts with the native Arabs which were the overwhelming majority in the area even up to the end of WWII in 1945.

The event that caused the nation we know as Israel to be formed was two years of open warfare between Arabs and Zionists living in Palestine and also neighboring Arab nations. The conflict pushed out ~80% of the native Palestinians and left the Jews sitting on the land to claim it as their own with the blessing of the UN and ceasefire agreements with their neighbors.

Had the Zionists entered Palestine without causing this open warfare and integrated to the local population peacefully, then I'd be inclined to support whatever Israel would be today. But sadly, Israel owns nationhood by means of political favors and military conquest. THEY ARE OCCUPIERS. Even if there was a Jewish presence in Palestine before, they conquered the country in the name of a religion.

It's not surprising that a large portion of the Jewish population in Israel is from neighboring countries; an understandable reaction to the way Israel muscled it's way into the Middle East. But that may be out of context, on your or my part slowhand I don't know.

/RANT


Take history back about 5,000 years and start there!

Headroller's photo
Sat 06/05/10 04:56 PM
Let's do the same with the United States, Mexico, Canada, South America, heck even Africa too! What does that give us?

msharmony's photo
Sat 06/05/10 04:58 PM

Let's do the same with the United States, Mexico, Canada, South America, heck even Africa too! What does that give us?



lol, exactly,,, pick the time that best suits the view,,,,,,we have all had blood on our hands(culturally and nationally speaking) at some point since time began,,,,

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sat 06/05/10 04:59 PM
Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Sat 06/05/10 05:02 PM
She's actually quite right. The State of Israel is a fiction created by fascists and Statists. Even torah Jews recognize the importance of the diaspora and the illegitimacy of a "Jewish State" (really a misnomer, considering the Israeli State doesn't abide by the Torah too well at all).

heavenlyboy34's photo
Sat 06/05/10 05:02 PM

Let's take a look at history, shall we?

The land that is contested in that area was once called Palestine. The refugees that were sponsored to move to Palestine, by in turn the British, the League of Nations, underground refugee railroads and finally the UN, essentially to fulfill the religious goal of Jews returning to Jerusalem and occupying the land that was claimed as a divine gift: the "land of milk and honey" and all that jazz. The immigrating Jews provoked open fighting and revolts with the native Arabs which were the overwhelming majority in the area even up to the end of WWII in 1945.

The event that caused the nation we know as Israel to be formed was two years of open warfare between Arabs and Zionists living in Palestine and also neighboring Arab nations. The conflict pushed out ~80% of the native Palestinians and left the Jews sitting on the land to claim it as their own with the blessing of the UN and ceasefire agreements with their neighbors.

Had the Zionists entered Palestine without causing this open warfare and integrated to the local population peacefully, then I'd be inclined to support whatever Israel would be today. But sadly, Israel owns nationhood by means of political favors and military conquest. THEY ARE OCCUPIERS. Even if there was a Jewish presence in Palestine before, they conquered the country in the name of a religion.

It's not surprising that a large portion of the Jewish population in Israel is from neighboring countries; an understandable reaction to the way Israel muscled it's way into the Middle East. But that may be out of context, on your or my part slowhand I don't know.

/RANT


drinker

isaac_dede's photo
Sat 06/05/10 05:10 PM
Edited by isaac_dede on Sat 06/05/10 05:13 PM

Well she's right on one point, they went to Israel as occupiers...
Seriously, because an ethnicity was nearly wiped out in Europe, that legitimizes pushing out native and forming their own country? spock

*brace for bashing*

if that is your opinion, then we all need to get out of America...oops... and give back the Indians their land

isaac_dede's photo
Sat 06/05/10 05:14 PM

She's actually quite right. The State of Israel is a fiction created by fascists and Statists. Even torah Jews recognize the importance of the diaspora and the illegitimacy of a "Jewish State" (really a misnomer, considering the Israeli State doesn't abide by the Torah too well at all).

so if all the Indians in this country rose up and started fighting our government we should graciously bow down and head back to England?

Headroller's photo
Sat 06/05/10 05:24 PM
Edited by Headroller on Sat 06/05/10 05:25 PM


Well she's right on one point, they went to Israel as occupiers...
Seriously, because an ethnicity was nearly wiped out in Europe, that legitimizes pushing out native and forming their own country? spock

*brace for bashing*

if that is your opinion, then we all need to get out of America...oops... and give back the Indians their land

What I'm saying is that the creation of Israel was given it's blessing by the powers that be as a &$%@ing consolation prize. But in a world where we overlook coup d'etats and invasions, well I guess I should just go back to being a sheep. ohwell And since there's what, 100,000 Native Americans left, I don't think that'd work out too well.

For the record, my country of deportation would probably be Italy, not England. :wink:

isaac_dede's photo
Sat 06/05/10 05:34 PM
also remember it is not the Palestinians country either...they are rogue Jordanians .......so who should go where?

Lpdon's photo
Sat 06/05/10 09:30 PM
All's I have to say is that Israel is showing great restraint. I guarantee that if any other country had hundreds of rockets fired in to it on a regular basis we would see full retalliation, possibly including nuclear weapons(mind you Israel is a full nuclear state).

Hell Japan just attacked one military target and we had one big a$$ bbq in Japan as a result. The same would happen if any other nuclear state were fully ittacked on a regular basis like Israel.

Rant over.

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