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Topic: So Much For Unbiased 'Reporting' ...
isaac_dede's photo
Sat 06/05/10 10:35 PM

All's I have to say is that Israel is showing great restraint. I guarantee that if any other country had hundreds of rockets fired in to it on a regular basis we would see full retalliation, possibly including nuclear weapons(mind you Israel is a full nuclear state).

Hell Japan just attacked one military target and we had one big a$$ bbq in Japan as a result. The same would happen if any other nuclear state were fully ittacked on a regular basis like Israel.

Rant over.

drinker

s1owhand's photo
Sun 06/06/10 12:14 AM

Let's take a look at history, shall we?

The event that caused the nation we know as Israel to be formed was two years of open warfare between Arabs and Zionists living in Palestine and also neighboring Arab nations.

/RANT


So it was civil war and the arabs lost and Israel was born. That doesn't make them occupiers anymore than the winners of the U.S. civil war (the North) are occupiers of the U.S.

laugh

here is a slideshow on the history of the region -

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/nutshell/conflict_2.html

InvictusV's photo
Sun 06/06/10 05:39 AM
Edited by InvictusV on Sun 06/06/10 05:42 AM
To the victors go the spoils.


Lpdon's photo
Sun 06/06/10 05:06 PM


All's I have to say is that Israel is showing great restraint. I guarantee that if any other country had hundreds of rockets fired in to it on a regular basis we would see full retalliation, possibly including nuclear weapons(mind you Israel is a full nuclear state).

Hell Japan just attacked one military target and we had one big a$$ bbq in Japan as a result. The same would happen if any other nuclear state were fully ittacked on a regular basis like Israel.

Rant over.

drinker


drinker

msharmony's photo
Mon 06/07/10 12:35 AM

To the victors go the spoils.


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guess both sides are still dying to be spoiled then,,,too bad for them both

Headroller's photo
Mon 06/07/10 02:48 AM
Edited by Headroller on Mon 06/07/10 02:49 AM
Yeah might = right and all that. Call me a bleeding heart but that is a simple minded way to look at it.

"All's I have to say is that Israel is showing great restraint. I guarantee that if any other country had hundreds of rockets fired in to it on a regular basis we would see full retalliation, possibly including nuclear weapons(mind you Israel is a full nuclear state)."
I'd drink to that. drinker

s1owhand's photo
Mon 06/07/10 04:15 AM
if we were to look at every land dispute around the world where two groups were vying for political control over a strip of land there would be no end to it.

what is crystal clear however is that it is never justifiable to try to settle such a dispute by bombmg children or transit services or restaurants or firing rockets into cities with the express and only purpose of killing people.

otherwise, any idiot who had a beef could just plant bombs outside city hall - or as in the case in the middle east - strap bombs onto their children and teach them that they will go to heaven if they toddle down to city hall and blow themselves up within the largest crowd they can find. this is obscene. worse than vile.

terrorism does not settle disputes. people do. what we have in the middle east is little more than the hatfields and mccoys fueled with religious fervor and ignorance.

this is why the israelis say that: "the war will be over when the arabs decide they love their children more than they hate israelis".
this is actually the essence of the conflict.

if the arabs laid their arms down today there would be peace and there could even be prosperity throughout the middle east.



AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 06/07/10 07:55 AM

Let's take a look at history, shall we?

The land that is contested in that area was once called Palestine. The refugees that were sponsored to move to Palestine, by in turn the British, the League of Nations, underground refugee railroads and finally the UN, essentially to fulfill the religious goal of Jews returning to Jerusalem and occupying the land that was claimed as a divine gift: the "land of milk and honey" and all that jazz. The immigrating Jews provoked open fighting and revolts with the native Arabs which were the overwhelming majority in the area even up to the end of WWII in 1945.

The event that caused the nation we know as Israel to be formed was two years of open warfare between Arabs and Zionists living in Palestine and also neighboring Arab nations. The conflict pushed out ~80% of the native Palestinians and left the Jews sitting on the land to claim it as their own with the blessing of the UN and ceasefire agreements with their neighbors.

Had the Zionists entered Palestine without causing this open warfare and integrated to the local population peacefully, then I'd be inclined to support whatever Israel would be today. But sadly, Israel owns nationhood by means of political favors and military conquest. THEY ARE OCCUPIERS. Even if there was a Jewish presence in Palestine before, they conquered the country in the name of a religion.

It's not surprising that a large portion of the Jewish population in Israel is from neighboring countries; an understandable reaction to the way Israel muscled it's way into the Middle East. But that may be out of context, on your or my part slowhand I don't know.

/RANT


By you own 'reasoning' we should all leave the United States. We don't belong here we are just 'occupiers'.

Reckon it be time to face an unpleasant (to some) truth. The people that are on the land have been there several generations (and are ethnicly mixed). Kinda hard to move them now wouldn't you say? Time to get real and find a REAL solution. Like get along or something simular. Does absolutly no good to thump you chest and point at one group.

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Mon 06/07/10 01:55 PM



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