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Thought you would enjoy this little tidbit of info. Surprised the LA Times published these stats.
Just One State - be sure and read the last part. This is only one State................If this doesn't open eyes, nothing will! From the L. A. Times 1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County (L. A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card. 2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens. 3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens. 4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers. 5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally. 6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages. 7... The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border. 8 Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal. 9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking. 10. In L.. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.. (There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County .) (All 10 of the above facts were published in the Los Angeles Times) Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States ' annual population growth (and over 90% of California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration. 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens. We are fools for letting this continue HOW CAN YOU HELP? Send copies of this letter to at least two other people. 100 would be even better. This is only one State.............. |
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/taxes.asp
I found it on snopes. They give a status of multiple. I really wish we could copy and paste the snopes article 
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Okay ... how y' gonna fight this national suicide when there are so many 'bleeding hearts' who took the Rolling Stones' 'Sympathy for the Devil' too literally ... ? Seriously - just think of the number of posters who believe the AZ law is 'racist' and that it allows (or worse, 'encourages') 'racial profiling' ... common sense and national security is rapidly becoming harder and harder to reconcile ...
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I like this kid already!
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Okay ... how y' gonna fight this national suicide when there are so many 'bleeding hearts' who took the Rolling Stones' 'Sympathy for the Devil' too literally ... ? Seriously - just think of the number of posters who believe the AZ law is 'racist' and that it allows (or worse, 'encourages') 'racial profiling' ... common sense and national security is rapidly becoming harder and harder to reconcile ... The other problems is there are terrorist groups like La Raza throwing massive amounts of money at the Democrats. |
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Okay ... how y' gonna fight this national suicide when there are so many 'bleeding hearts' who took the Rolling Stones' 'Sympathy for the Devil' too literally ... ? Seriously - just think of the number of posters who believe the AZ law is 'racist' and that it allows (or worse, 'encourages') 'racial profiling' ... common sense and national security is rapidly becoming harder and harder to reconcile ... The other problems is there are terrorist groups like La Raza throwing massive amounts of money at the Democrats. And lots of American Companies throwing Billions at LA Raza. |
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Okay ... how y' gonna fight this national suicide when there are so many 'bleeding hearts' who took the Rolling Stones' 'Sympathy for the Devil' too literally ... ? Seriously - just think of the number of posters who believe the AZ law is 'racist' and that it allows (or worse, 'encourages') 'racial profiling' ... common sense and national security is rapidly becoming harder and harder to reconcile ... The other problems is there are terrorist groups like La Raza throwing massive amounts of money at the Democrats. And lots of American Companies throwing Billions at LA Raza. La Raza is no different then AQ. |
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Thought some REAL facts might be beneficial
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/ois_ill_pe_2008.pdf Estimates of the Unauthorized Immigrant Population Residing in the United States: January 2008 MicHael HoeFer, NaNcy rytiNa, aND BryaN c. Baker Estimated populations (Unauthorized immigrants) in January 2008 = 11,600,000 Percentage of the total Unauthorized follows population and year 2000 figures next California: 2,850,000 25% 2,510,000 Texas: 1,680,000 14 1,090,000 Florida: 840,000 7 800,000 New York: 640,000 6 540,000 Arizona: 560,000 5 330,000 Illinois: 550,000 5 440,000 Georgia: 460,000 4 220,000 New Jersey: 400,000 3 350,000 N.Carolina 380,000 3 260,000 Nevada: 280,000 2 170,000 All others 2,950,000 25 1,760,000 overall trend DHS estimates that the unauthorized immigrant population in the United States numbered 11.6 million in January 2008 compared to 11.8 million in January 2007, 11.3 million in January 2006, 10.5 million in January 2005, and 8.5 million in 2000 (see Figure 1). The increase in the unauthorized population between 2000 and 2008 was 3.1 million or 37 percent. The annual average net increase in the unauthorized population during this 8-year period was 390,000. http://www.migrationinformation.org/feature/display.cfm?ID=747#9d Where are unauthorized immigrants from? The vast majority of unauthorized immigrants are from Mexico and Latin America: 59 percent from Mexico, 11 percent from Central America, 7 percent from South America, and 4 percent from the Caribbean. An additional 12 percent are from South and East Asia, while the rest come from other areas of the world. Note that unauthorized immigrants is not synonymous with (Mexico or Latino) http://www.migrationinformation.org/feature/display.cfm?ID=747#9d How many apprehensions were there in 2008? There were nearly 800,000 apprehensions in 2008. The overwhelming majority, 97 percent, were along the Southwest border. The total number of alien apprehensions reported by the Department of Homeland Security steadily increased during the 1990s, from 1,169,939 apprehensions in 1990 to 1,814,729 apprehensions in 2000. Since 2000, the number of apprehensions has declined steadily, numbering 960,756 in 2007 and 791,568 in 2008. The 2008 figure is the lowest since 1989 and the second lowest since 1982. Note: Apprehensions are events, not individuals. In other words, the same individual can be apprehended more than once. How many people were deported in 2008? The United States deported almost 1.2 million aliens in 2008. The total number of aliens deported follows a similar trend to apprehensions, rising from 1,052,572 in 1990 to 1,864,343 in 2000 before declining to 1,170,149 in 2008. However, the number of removals (forced deportations) rose throughout the period from 30,039 in 1990 to 188,467 in 2000 and 358,886 in 2008. By contrast, voluntary returns first increased over the period, from 1,022,522 in 1990 to 1,675,876 in 2000, but they declined to 811,263 in 2008 Note: Removals are the compulsory and confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States based on an order of removal. An alien who is removed has administrative or criminal consequences placed on subsequent reentry owing to the fact of the removal. Returns are the confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States not based on an order of removal. Most of the voluntary departures are of Mexican nationals who have been apprehended by the US Border Patrol and are returned to Mexico. How much does the government spend on immigration control and enforcement? If interested see the link Backlogs How many visa applications for permanent immigration (green cards) are backlogged? Two types of backlogs impact issuance of green cards. The first is due to visa availability. For example, the government caps employment-based permanent visas for foreign workers and their families at 140,000 per year. Also, no country can receive more than 7 percent of the total number of annual worldwide visas (approximately 25,600 visas). The second type of backlog is due to processing delays of applicants' documents. This is related to the government's lack of financial and human resources as well as increased scrutiny. Once the State Department grants a visa to an immigrant, US Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation conduct background checks. As of October 9, 2009, USCIS was processing some family-related visas applications filed as far back as January 1987, and it was still processing some employment-related visa applications from June 2001. A US citizen wishing to sponsor an unmarried adult child from Mexico has to wait more than 18 years before the application will be processed (see Table 1). LPRs applying to bring their immediate family members (spouses and children) can expect to wait between four and 18 years depending on their country of origin. The Backlogs is a very important component of the unauthorized immigrant status because while application is pending the individual is unauthorized but would you want to wait 18 years before your family, your children could join you in the United States? NO, so they come here and live with an unauthorized parent and one legal parent. Also visa’s can expire and people here legally cannot go back and wait many years for approval to finish school or keep a job. So these otherwise law abiding people take their chances and wait the system out. These people pay taxes, they pay into social security, often they want to become citizens, but the backlogs keep them from it. Kind of makes it easier to see why the Arizona law & other states who consider following that example, can be a scary prospect especially if the person ‘caught’ did everything legally, paid taxes and supported his community but the backlogs and red tape of our own ineptitude caused this person’s grief. The following website was very interesting and informative and spent some time verifying SOME of the information and found it trustworthy. Below are is a small sampling. http://www.equalrightscenter.org/rights/10misconceptions.php 10 misconceptions of immigrant Misconception 6: Immigrants, documented and undocumented, come here to benefit from our public welfare programs. TRUTHS: - Since the 1996 Welfare Reform Act , most documented immigrants are excluded either for five years or permanently from eligibility for most benefits. The law barred most immigrants who entered the U.S. on or after the date the law was enacted, Aug. 22, 1996, from “federal means-tested public benefits” during the five years after they secure “qualified” immigrant status. Federal agencies clarified that “federal means-tested public benefits” are nonemergency Medicaid, State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), food stamps, and Supplemental Security Income (SSI). (See “Additional Readings” on page 18) - All immigrants, documented and undocumented, are eligible to receive emergency Medicaid, certain types of emergency disaster relief, public health immunizations, in-kind (non-cash) services necessary to protect life and safety, and K-12 public education. - Undocumented immigrants are barred from receiving any grant, loan, professional license, retirement, welfare, health, disability, public or assisted housing, postsecondary education, food assistance, and unemployment benefit. - States may provide state and local benefits to undocumented immigrants only through the enactment of a state law affirmatively granting such eligibility. Misconception 7: Immigrants, especially Latino immigrants, resist assimilation. TRUTHS: - Immigrants assimilate into U.S. culture: they “evince a strong work ethic and [their] children tend to assimilate in terms of language acquisition and educational attainment.” Their unemployment rate is lower than that of native-born U.S. workers, 4.3% versus 4.7% in 2007. - Immigrants arriving during the last 25 years have assimilated faster than immigrants arriving a century ago, even though they are more distinct from the native population upon arrival. - The children of Latino immigrants today learn English faster and better than children of immigrants from preceding generations. Only 7% of second generation Latinos use Spanish as their main language. - More than 68,000 foreign-born individuals are currently serving in the military, and a little more than half of them (37,000) are not yet citizens. - Immigrants have been among the casualties and prisoners in the war in Iraq. Example: U.S. Marine Lance Corporal Jose Gutierrez According to a 60 Minutes report, U.S. Marine Lance Corporal Jose Gutierrez, one of the first casualties of the war in Iraq, first entered the U.S. as an undocumented immigrant from Guatemala in 1997 to escape poverty. - Over 20% of the recipients of our highest military award, the Congressional Medal of Honor, have been immigrants. - "Latinos are very patriotic and see military service as a way to show their appreciation to America and to prove they can be 'real’ Americans." – Dr. Jorge Mariscal, director of Chicano Studies at the University of California at San Diego. - Immigrants over time integrate into the society and make important contributions to the U.S. in science, education, business, sports, art, or politics. Examples: Below is a sampling of well-known, foreign-born individuals who became naturalized U.S. citizens. Albert Einstein (Physicist), Alfredo Quiñones-Hinojosa (Neurosurgeon – Johns Hopkins University Hospital), Liz Claiborne (Fashion designer), Sergey Brin (Entrepreneur – Google), Jerry Yang (Entrepreneur – Yahoo), Albert Pujols (Baseball player),Manny Ramírez(Baseball player), Patrick Ewing (Basketball player), Garo Yepremian (Football player), Jhumpa Lahiri (Author – Pulitzer winner), Junot Díaz (Author – Pulitzer winner), Andy Garcia (Actor), Greta Garbo (Actress), Carlos Santana (Musician), Eddie Van Halen (Musician), Henry Kissinger (Former U.S. Secretary of State), Madeleine Albright (Former U.S. Secretary of State) and Arnold Schwarzenegger (Governor of California). |
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Now, if you want to see interesting here is something for you…
http://www.equalrightscenter.org/rights/10misconceptions.php 10 misconceptions of immigrant Misconception 6: Immigrants, documented and undocumented, come here to benefit from our public welfare programs. - The deportation of 12 million people would cost the U.S. billions of dollars. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency (ICE) gave a low estimate of $94 billion in 2007, but the Center for American Progress estimates the total cost to be $206 billion to $230 billion over five years. - Moreover, the loss of those workers would have a negative impact on the economy and contribute to a steep rise in inflation: prices would go up, the real estate market would decline further, companies would outsource their production, the unemployment rate would go up, and there would be a shortage of individuals to perform domestic work, construction, food services, and low wage health care. But then consider the other side of the coin – what would we lose? Comments from journalist Jeff Jacoby, “What if we deport them all?” Boston Globe 18 March 2007. “[…] suppose that […] 12 million illegal immigrants were forced out. What then? As millions of farm hands, busboys, chambermaids, and garment workers vanished, who would take their places? Unemployed US citizens? With unemployment down to 4.5 percent, there aren't 12 million of them to spare. Even if there were, not many native-born Americans are prepared to accept the low wages and hard conditions that characterize so much illegal-immigrant labor. Hard-liners insist that there are no "jobs Americans won't do" if the pay is right. Well, how much would an employer have to pay you to pick lettuce or clean hotel rooms for a living? A lot of jobs that pay, say, $8 an hour and are acceptable to a Mexican or Guatemalan alien with little education, few skills, and a fear of being deported would evaporate at the $16 an hour Americans would demand. With more expensive labor would come more reliance on machines instead of people, more outsourcing to cheaper labor markets, more closing of no-longer-profitable ventures. If illegal immigrants disappeared, countless jobs would disappear with them. Pull 12 million low-skilled workers out of the economy, and the cost of everything from yardwork to restaurant meals would soar. Higher costs would mean lower profits and disposable income, less investment, weaker growth. "Some 1.2 million illegals are believed to work in construction," Holman Jenkins wrote in the Wall Street Journal last June. "If the cost of home building goes up, demand goes down: Less wood is sold, fewer nails, fewer power tools, fewer pickup trucks. Contractors would make less profit; ergo, Harley-Davidson would sell fewer Road Kings with all the chrome and finery." The United States creates more than 400,000 new low-skill jobs each year, a tremendous employment magnet for hundreds of thousands of foreign workers. But […] there is no lawful way for most of the workers we need to enter the country. So they enter unlawfully -- a wrongful act, perhaps, but hardly an evil one. Immigration is good for America. So is respect for the law. Nothing forces us to choose between them. As long as there is work for them to do here, immigrants will keep crossing the border. We'd all be better off if we let them cross it legally. - According to recent Gallup surveys (see below), the majority of Americans believe the government should permit undocumented immigrants to remain in this country and eventually become U.S. citizens if they meet certain requirements. Less than one American in four favors deportation. The following article has copyright restrictions so you will have to check it our for yourself, but it is well worth your trouble to look it up and review it. It seems illegal immigration is HUGE business and according to one estimate based on only 30 percent of the unauthorized – they contributed over 400 billion to the 2006 gross domestic product. Also, their contributions to social security in creased the solvency of the plan by 4 years. Don’t forget they pay state taxes too. Also consider what it would cost to deport 12 million illegal immigrants (see the beginning of this post) http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2008-04-10-immigrantstaxes_N.htm By Travis Loller, Associated Press |
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it was free for them to walk across the border, or at least inexpensive enough for them to afford it even though their lives were so rough,,,
Im willing to take the risks,,,there are actually 13.9 million people unemployed and thats not counting those who dont get picked up in the unemployment numbers because they gave up looking for work. and all those companies losing out because they hired illegal immigrants,, shut them down and take the money in incentives, grants, and tax writeoffs to promote job creation for Americans her in the states... |
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/taxes.asp I found it on snopes. They give a status of multiple. I really wish we could copy and paste the snopes article I do usually like your posts wraithme, read them all the time actually, don't always post though. But yes, some of this has been proven false, some of it is true though. |
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it was free for them to walk across the border, or at least inexpensive enough for them to afford it even though their lives were so rough,,, Im willing to take the risks,,,there are actually 13.9 million people unemployed and thats not counting those who dont get picked up in the unemployment numbers because they gave up looking for work. and all those companies losing out because they hired illegal immigrants,, shut them down and take the money in incentives, grants, and tax writeoffs to promote job creation for Americans her in the states... Who is loosing out? One of the major points is that the majority of the poeple in America could not afford the lifestyle they live if every person on a payroll made the kind of living that would afford the lifestyle of the majority of people in America. I know it sounds circular but the fact is ALL OF US are more than willing to pay the cheapest of wages anywhere in the world in order that we may have inexpensive products and services. But in America we damand a wage that most other countries cannot even fathom. I would like to know how many here purchase only made in America products and services? Truely you could not affort it which is why our cotton, wool, spandex, and most other raw materials find their way to every other country in the world until the components which make up the pair of pants you buy at WalMart or Kohls or whereever have consumed more fuel in transit to be made and to get to you than the majority of people will use in their life time. And you paid how much? Now compare that cost to strictly 'make in America' but when you do take a few hours or a day to find out how much of that products raw material and labor actually came from this country. You see, we outsources all the products of our consumerism because we could not afford to sustain our overconsumption. So right here in the U.S. we have carpenters and construction workers, cottage textile industy (mostly women and children), lawn care, migrant workers, truckers, and any number of unskilled manual labor who may be lucky enough to get paid $8.00 an hour. These are the majority of the unauthorized. (don't forget we have many scientists, educators, doctors, etc in those ranks as well, waiting for administrative backlog to make them legal) Imagine the cost of your roof, your home, your clothes, if every one of those people earned the equivalent of their American counter parts. We also have to remember that a good portion - the majority pay into our tax systems in many ways and many are on payroll which means they pay into S.S. and Medicaid. On top of that many who are not on payroll still file taxes because they want to be legal, perhaps their visa has expired, perhaps their spouse is legal - well all that information preceeds this post. The point is - those jobs would not be filled by the currently unemployed, because in this country, people can not support their lifestyle on so little a wage nor are they willing to put that much effort into the hard manual labor. The Government sees the benefits which is why we admit so many immigrants every year - the problem is the government cannot or will not support the administration that keep visa's, green cards, and applications for them current. So the choice is really ours - STOP the unsustainable over consumption, spent the billions of dollars to round up and return the illegals,without the taxes to recoup that loss and pay a higher price for our consumption. Since we will be left to fill all those millions of low jobs there would be littl choice in that matter. So as consumption dwindles, more jobs are lost, more companies go our out of business, more unemployment. Of course SS will be bankrupt by 2025 or sooner, our taxes would not be enough to maintain the Federal entitlements and the redistribution of wealth will be practically non-existant. All of this leads to another major crisis which American take for granted and rarely blink an eye at - the nonprofit sector. Without federal entitlements the nonprofit sector - the charitable organization - would fail. That sector, by the way, if it were considered in the world scale of economy would be the 7th largest economy in the world - and we would lose it and the million of employees who work it would join the ranks of the unemployed. So by FORCING a police state in which all unauthorized persons would be deported we would become a NEW developing nation - but could we even support our armed forces? Immigration is BIG BUSINESS. The Government knows this, States know this and if it seems that they are taking action against it, they do so according to public opinion - they want to keep their, jobs you know and that means being popular with the constituants. We really are sheeple but a little education and a lot of critical thought could go along way. |
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