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Topic: The Agenda - moves forward
Redykeulous's photo
Thu 05/27/10 08:24 PM
Edited by Redykeulous on Thu 05/27/10 08:26 PM
Here is one conspiracy which seems to be going well, moving along serving to accomplish what some would call the (OMG) AGENDA!noway

Not the Muslims, not chemtrails, illegal aliens, nor Arizona racial profiling, not even global climate conspiracy - it is the dreaded USA creepy crawly gay and lesbian AGENDA. Yes it is gaining law by law, state by state creeping into state supreme courts, into the minds of otherwise normal heterosexuals - (oh save us all)!tears

Not only the recent successes of marriage battles by individial state directives but also,

In April a memo from 'THE ONE' to THE SECRETARY OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, requesting appropriate rulmaking to "ensure that hospitals participatinf in Medicare or Medicaid respect the rights of patients to designate visitors" and among other things to Provide additional recommendations to me, within 180 days of the date of this memorandum, on actions the Department of Health and Human Services can take to address hospital visitation, medical decisionmaking, or other health care issues that affect LGBT patients and their families.

And tonight the U.S. House of Representatives voted to repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." having progressed from a successful vote earlier today from the Senate Arms Service Committee. :thumbsup:

Not a done deal however, there will still be a Senate debate this summer and there is a condition that it won't take affect until the Pentagon's study is completed in December. sad2

But clearly - that Agenda is advancing and soon we will begin converting others openly - we will begin with ---- drum roll ----
hahahahah - Christians. :banana: :banana:

Just thought I'd lighten things up - this political and current events forum has gotten way out of hand, so in leu of discussion, I'm simply making the expected (latest) contribution to the LBGT Agenda Conspiracy Theory....

Have a Happy Memorial day - remember you also have gay and lesbian troups to thank for your protection as you enjoy your day off - and soon you can thank them them OPENLY. :wink:



Thomas3474's photo
Thu 05/27/10 08:44 PM
Edited by Thomas3474 on Thu 05/27/10 08:53 PM

Here is one conspiracy which seems to be going well, moving along serving to accomplish what some would call the (OMG) AGENDA!noway

Not the Muslims, not chemtrails, illegal aliens, nor Arizona racial profiling, not even global climate conspiracy - it is the dreaded USA creepy crawly gay and lesbian AGENDA. Yes it is gaining law by law, state by state creeping into state supreme courts, into the minds of otherwise normal heterosexuals - (oh save us all)!tears

Not only the recent successes of marriage battles by individial state directives but also,

In April a memo from 'THE ONE' to THE SECRETARY OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, requesting appropriate rulmaking to "ensure that hospitals participatinf in Medicare or Medicaid respect the rights of patients to designate visitors" and among other things to Provide additional recommendations to me, within 180 days of the date of this memorandum, on actions the Department of Health and Human Services can take to address hospital visitation, medical decisionmaking, or other health care issues that affect LGBT patients and their families.

And tonight the U.S. House of Representatives voted to repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." having progressed from a successful vote earlier today from the Senate Arms Service Committee. :thumbsup:

Not a done deal however, there will still be a Senate debate this summer and there is a condition that it won't take affect until the Pentagon's study is completed in December. sad2

But clearly - that Agenda is advancing and soon we will begin converting others openly - we will begin with ---- drum roll ----
hahahahah - Christians. :banana: :banana:

Just thought I'd lighten things up - this political and current events forum has gotten way out of hand, so in leu of discussion, I'm simply making the expected (latest) contribution to the LBGT Agenda Conspiracy Theory....

Have a Happy Memorial day - remember you also have gay and lesbian troups to thank for your protection as you enjoy your day off - and soon you can thank them them OPENLY. :wink:






Your news about the hospitals was already posted in here over a month ago and nobody including the Christians gave a hoot about it.

Before you start your celebration party...The repeal of don't ask don't tell has not become law yet.Despite all the hoopla I am not expecting it to pass especially during War time.

Likewise maybe the gays can thank the Christians for their service to our country.But we all know that is never going to happen.




Lpdon's photo
Thu 05/27/10 08:45 PM
Repealing Don't ask don't tell isn't enough.

no photo
Thu 05/27/10 09:03 PM
Repealing 'DADT' may, unfortunately, lead to a practice from 'back in the day' ... raise your hand if you know what 'fragging' means ... Military life is difficult enough without effin' politicians using the services as their private 'social engineering' lab ... the troops will deal with the politicians' 'solutions' in their own way ...

Dragoness's photo
Thu 05/27/10 09:22 PM
I thought don't ask don't tell to be the stupidest thing I had ever heard of.

We know your gay but if you slip or we find out, your out.

Stupidity.


Gay folks are everywhere. There is not a walk of life or place on earth where there is not gay folks.

They have been here since men evolved and will be here until man becomes extinct.

No sense in fighting nature and no sense in fooling ourselves that it is ever going to stop existing.

Give them the rights to live as everyone else and lets move onto the next discrimination battle that we in evidently will have to battle

msharmony's photo
Thu 05/27/10 11:44 PM

Repealing Don't ask don't tell isn't enough.



I say lets save money and have the men and women all stay together,, they are professionals serving beside each other after all,, preferences shouldnt matter,,,,nor potential attractions/distractions


leave them to be professionals and let the unprofessionals weed themself out

willing2's photo
Fri 05/28/10 08:12 AM
Edited by willing2 on Fri 05/28/10 08:15 AM


Repealing Don't ask don't tell isn't enough.



I say lets save money and have the men and women all stay together,, they are professionals serving beside each other after all,, preferences shouldnt matter,,,,nor potential attractions/distractions


leave them to be professionals and let the unprofessionals weed themself out

I can dig that.

Co-ed shower stalls!!drinker

The site of a young, wet, soapy tight-bodied female would make the little soldier come to a rigid ATTENTION!

oops I just got weeded out!rofl rofl

msharmony's photo
Fri 05/28/10 11:11 AM



Repealing Don't ask don't tell isn't enough.



I say lets save money and have the men and women all stay together,, they are professionals serving beside each other after all,, preferences shouldnt matter,,,,nor potential attractions/distractions


leave them to be professionals and let the unprofessionals weed themself out

I can dig that.

Co-ed shower stalls!!drinker

The site of a young, wet, soapy tight-bodied female would make the little soldier come to a rigid ATTENTION!

oops I just got weeded out!rofl rofl



smh,,,,lol

Redykeulous's photo
Fri 05/28/10 05:21 PM

Repealing Don't ask don't tell isn't enough.


No it's only part of the AGENDA - the closet doors are still on their hinges for many people. The agenda is really just a series of steps that must be taken before those doors can open into a world of acceptance and equality.

Have a great weekend.

Redykeulous's photo
Fri 05/28/10 05:23 PM

I thought don't ask don't tell to be the stupidest thing I had ever heard of.

We know your gay but if you slip or we find out, your out.

Stupidity.


Gay folks are everywhere. There is not a walk of life or place on earth where there is not gay folks.

They have been here since men evolved and will be here until man becomes extinct.

No sense in fighting nature and no sense in fooling ourselves that it is ever going to stop existing.

Give them the rights to live as everyone else and lets move onto the next discrimination battle that we in evidently will have to battle


What I never understood about the damn thing was that the gay person is supposed to be quiet, deny, or just outright lie, while the heterosexual person can point a finger and the gay person can be labeled a lier and dismissed??? WTF???

no photo
Fri 05/28/10 05:23 PM
Funny how people who've never served are all jazzed about this becoming 'law' ... go figure.

Redykeulous's photo
Fri 05/28/10 05:28 PM


Repealing Don't ask don't tell isn't enough.



I say lets save money and have the men and women all stay together,, they are professionals serving beside each other after all,, preferences shouldnt matter,,,,nor potential attractions/distractions


leave them to be professionals and let the unprofessionals weed themself out


The DADT was something I distanced myself from mostly due to my feelings about the structure of the armed forces and most recently my disapproval of the current war situation. However, as of late I have taken a view much like the one you have stated.

After questioning my basic ethical beliefs I realized that part of respecting every human being is to allow them to be who they are, and that means to allow them to grow into who that is and some poeple choose the armed forces for that purpose.

They are adults and all of them have my respect, so I have jumped on the band wagon and have contributed my voice, small though it is, in an effort to repeal this degrading law.

FearandLoathing's photo
Fri 05/28/10 05:31 PM

Repealing 'DADT' may, unfortunately, lead to a practice from 'back in the day' ... raise your hand if you know what 'fragging' means ... Military life is difficult enough without effin' politicians using the services as their private 'social engineering' lab ... the troops will deal with the politicians' 'solutions' in their own way ...


I have to agree with this statement here. Politics should steer away from using the service in private manners such as appeasing masses. Doing away with the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, I feel, would be more damning in the long-run.

Redykeulous's photo
Fri 05/28/10 05:45 PM

Funny how people who've never served are all jazzed about this becoming 'law' ... go figure.


You make a valid point but it is seriously limited in scope. Those who serve are also those who contribute their time and effort in charitable ways. There are always more than one side of an issue, opinion or idea.

Yes, serving in our armed forces can be an admirable action but there are many noble causes and many other forms of serving. To place one noble cause in higher regard than other causes is to demean the noble actions of many poeple.

What purpose does it serve to create such a ranking within the volunteer sector?






markumX's photo
Fri 05/28/10 05:55 PM
Kudos to you neocons that are against the repealling of don't ask don't tell yet say you support the troops. You're both a hypocrit and a bigot and impressingly wrong.

msharmony's photo
Fri 05/28/10 07:11 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 05/28/10 07:20 PM

Kudos to you neocons that are against the repealling of don't ask don't tell yet say you support the troops. You're both a hypocrit and a bigot and impressingly wrong.



with all due respect, my stance is not about bigotry, it is about empathy actually. I know I wouldnt want to be FORCED to live in the same quarters as men (not because of their biology, which I can handle, but because of the DISCOMFORT of potential complications arising from unwanted advances), the moment one SHARES their personal gender preference, suddenly that brush against me in the shower takes on a whole new meaning I may not have even considered before, similarly I wouldnt want to be forced to live amongst homosexual women, for the same reasons.

the only way I see the fairness in this,, is , as I have said,, straight people are force to barack with opposite sex straight people as well


any argument that could be used to support forcing straight people to live with same gender homosexual people,, could be used to support forcing straight people to live with opposite sex heterosexuals....it is the FORCING upon others that I oppose


its not bigotry over a lifestyle choice, its consideration for the reasonable comfort of others in their sleeping accomodations.

willing2's photo
Fri 05/28/10 07:30 PM

Kudos to you neocons that are against the repealling of don't ask don't tell yet say you support the troops. You're both a hypocrit and a bigot and impressingly wrong.

In the Military, ya' just git discharged.

In much of the middle east homosexuals are murdered.

I dunno, which is the lesser sentence????

no photo
Fri 05/28/10 07:37 PM


Funny how people who've never served are all jazzed about this becoming 'law' ... go figure.


You make a valid point but it is seriously limited in scope. Those who serve are also those who contribute their time and effort in charitable ways. There are always more than one side of an issue, opinion or idea.

Yes, serving in our armed forces can be an admirable action but there are many noble causes and many other forms of serving. To place one noble cause in higher regard than other causes is to demean the noble actions of many poeple.

What purpose does it serve to create such a ranking within the volunteer sector?



Since you haven't served, you have no frame of reference for understanding that troops would NOT take kindly to being scoped out in the shower by another GUY. The open expression of homosexuality is incongruous with the maintenance of what the military calls 'good order and discipline'. It also degrades unit cohesion. In short, the repeal of 'DADT' is designed to CRIPPLE our military by destroying morale and unit cohesion. Whether or not you accept that as a reality really isn't relevant to the reality that the only effect it can have is one that's detrimental to our national security.

Redykeulous's photo
Fri 05/28/10 09:22 PM


Kudos to you neocons that are against the repealling of don't ask don't tell yet say you support the troops. You're both a hypocrit and a bigot and impressingly wrong.



with all due respect, my stance is not about bigotry, it is about empathy actually. I know I wouldnt want to be FORCED to live in the same quarters as men (not because of their biology, which I can handle, but because of the DISCOMFORT of potential complications arising from unwanted advances), the moment one SHARES their personal gender preference, suddenly that brush against me in the shower takes on a whole new meaning I may not have even considered before, similarly I wouldnt want to be forced to live amongst homosexual women, for the same reasons.

the only way I see the fairness in this,, is , as I have said,, straight people are force to barack with opposite sex straight people as well


any argument that could be used to support forcing straight people to live with same gender homosexual people,, could be used to support forcing straight people to live with opposite sex heterosexuals....it is the FORCING upon others that I oppose


its not bigotry over a lifestyle choice, its consideration for the reasonable comfort of others in their sleeping accomodations.


Two comments:

First - The comfort of a soldier in the battlefield is not likely to be made worse by a fellow soldier sharing the experience. The barracks of a soldier are not made for comfort, they serve necessity.

Secondly - if the scenarios you are referring to were prevalent enough to be worried about, history would have recorded these events with court marshalls and dismissals and any number of media hyped horror stories because homosexuals have served in great numbers in all our wars and incidents such as you have conjured up have no prevalence.

It is difficult to relate to what you don't understand and what is misunderstood leads to fear. There is no more aggression (and perhaps less)in homosexual advances than in heterosexual ones. If one party is not interested it's easy enough to remedy with a simple conversation.

Friendships thrive on conversation and some of the greatest friendships are forged in the heat of a battlefield. No man or woman would betray those kinds of friendships, not when you are staking your life on the person next to you.















Dragoness's photo
Fri 05/28/10 09:28 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Fri 05/28/10 09:29 PM
Sex has been taking place in the military since it's inception both gay and straight sex.

And it has never been natural to shower in groups anyway. I have never understood this need and the military can afford to put in separated showers. Noone needs to be rubbing up against anyone in the shower accidentally or on purpose.

My step dad wouldn't let me join the military because he said he knew what the women endured in the military.

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