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Topic: A serious question
ShadowShaker's photo
Wed 05/26/10 05:26 PM

If it is Love it is LOve...The other thing that you would have to ask yourself is...know that this person has a terminal illness...do you really love this person or do you feel sorry for them and you are letting your petty for this person control your feelings and emotions???


I am the one who is dieing, and agreed that is something to look out for.

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Wed 05/26/10 09:04 PM



To me there is a difference between the uncertainties of life and the knowledge of death happening soon. Most all go into a relationship feeling that they will not leave the other person in tears, not even thinking about the potential of death happening soon. But it seems irresponsible to get into a relationship knowing that if everything goes wonderfully, it will end with the other person in tears. It makes more since to just not let them be involved in the pain.

Just so everyone knows, my family has been trying to get me to date and I refuse because I have a heart condition that has been 100% fatal to all who develop it. They don't know what causes it, and there is no cure so death is certain. The average life span of someone with this condition is about 10 years, but due to me not seeing a doctor right after the symptoms developed, I had between about 5 or 7 and that was two years ago. There is no constant pain or anything like that and I am not disabled by it, I do have frequent hospital visits as a result however (was hospitalized 6 times last year). I already have a 13 year old, so there is someone to live on for me so to speak. At this point to me it just seems selfish to get involved as it would only be making my time a little nicer for the pain that it would cause someone else.

And if a child came of a new relationship, that would end up being a fatherless child (another concept I don't handle well). I have had two relationships in my life that lasted less then 2 years, the other 3 lasted over 4 years (with my last lasting 11 years).

Also, I really do appreciate the replies on this topic, it is a tricky one for a lot of people. I am very much a logical person and the facts have to make since for me to change my mind. Not being able to see the other side of the coin properly due to my situation, it is logical for me to find out what people in general think. Thus, here I am. Hoping to either satisfy my family that I am making the right choice or have my mind changed based on the facts.


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There's a difference between 'illness' / 'sickness' / 'death'. Illness and sickness are real, but there is NO 'death'. What we perceive as 'death' is nothing more than the leaving behind of the physical container that carries whatever is 'us' around while we're in this existence. When we leave behind our 'skin suit', we merely transition to a higher plane of existence. Our 'skin suit' might be here, but we're somewhere else then ... and we're NOT 'dead'. WE're alive - our 'container' is 'dead'. Only when y' look at it from the perspective of 'us' and our 'essence' (or the 'product' and the 'container') is a concept like 'death' valid - but it's only valid for the container, not for the stuff that makes us 'us'.

Just as an aside, I've also got my own cardio problems, but I refuse to live like an invalid and I will NOT be confined by arbitrary 'rules' about what I 'can' and 'can't' do ... I DECIDE what I can and can't do - or will and won't do.

As for relationships ... if you DON'T try, you lose whatever you MIGHT have gained. It's an automatic 'given'. If you DO try, you might lose, but you might ALSO win what you never thought you could have had. Given that choice, I'll try every damned time ... whatever else may happen down the road is something everyone has to deal with sooner or later - there is NO escape from that part of it. If you choose to put artificial limitations on yourself, that's your choice - but then y' can't come back later and play the 'poor me' game ... it's 'choice and consequence', boy-o.



You act like I am giving up on something. I am not giving up on anything, I am simply making the choice not to hurt others. And has anybody seen me play a poor me card? I am asking opinion. I have asked no one to feel sorry for me nor do I want them to, I have lived a good life with no real regrets thus far. Many out there have worse lives then I, I am just graduating this life early. Please if you respond don't make it an emotional hurling of comments and please don't accuse me of things I have not done or am not doing. I know exactly what I am asking, the consequences of my decisions and I even understand for many it may be an emotional topic, but to me it is about not letting emotions over-ride logic.


If you have any loved ones at all, they will grieve when you die. (That is not "you hurting them." )

If the person you 'might' get involved with knows you have a 'possible' terminal condition, it should be her choice. I would think if she chose to love you or wanted to be with you and you resisted that, it could cause more pain for both of you than if you just let things happen in a natural way.

P.S. We are all dieing. Some are just doing it faster than others.




thayet153's photo
Mon 05/31/10 02:09 PM
If I knew I would love the person and he in return, even if he were to die, I probably would still meet him, I may be heartbroken when his time were to come, but I'd still rather would have been with someone I loved.

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