its his job to prove eligibility to the appropriate eligibility board,,, not to every private citizen,,,he gave proof of citizenship(according to the documents listed as proof on just about ANY government form) ,


and whatever McCain did or didnt do is irrelevant to the point ....what one was WILLING to do and what the law REQUIRES to be done are two different things....various sources have verified the PAPER Document and state officials and politicians(including the REPUBLICAN governor) have verified his birth in Hawaii,,,

Anyone can get a certificate of live birth, even if they were born in another country. It's not the same as a birth certificate.

show me the requirements for HAWAII that state that,,,,as I said, the only SITUATION that is listed where someone may be born outside the country is if ONE parent is a citizen(which qualifies them for citizenship as well).....

and if this is true,, is the document permitted to flat out LIE and list the island, county, state of birth as something other than what it ACTUALLY was?

can that same ANYBODY have verification of their place of birth including HOSPITAL by state officials which is fraudulent and not truly the hospital or place of their birth?

does anyone have an example of such a certificate,, which has a raised seal and place of birth that isnt ACTUALLY where the person was born? Id love to see it...

Actually, the constitution CAN be ammended so Arnold can run. It is not impossible like you state.

All's he has to do to shut people up is provide proof. I know if I was getting negative press about something I would sure as hell prove them wrong to shut them up.

Only someone with something to hide doesn't cough up proof.

She doesn't get the concept of Certificate of Live Birth VS. Birth Certificate. Your just wasting your time.

or someone with balls to stand up to bullies for whom no 'proof' would be valid enough

because 3 propane tanks and m-80s and a few gallons of gas are cheaper and they don't care how many people the kill. they want to harm as many innocent people as possible as a way to force political concessions and that is why it is called terrorism.

that is also why we fight it and why it is becoming increasingly clearer to us what israel has been facing from these nutballs for the last 100 years.

if you allow them to achieve concessions due to their bombings then you guarantee more bombings. the only reasonable course of action is to show them that we will never capitulate and that such tactics will have an effect opposite of what they wish.

the international community must hunt them down and never pay ransom.
simple as that.

no need to condescend, I DO get it.. when I go online to get my BIRTH CERTIFICATE,,for purpose of verification of citizenship to obtain my US PASSPORT


what they send me says CERTIFICATION OF BIRTH, and not BIRTH CERTIFICATE
its an endless and INANE Argument of semantics where a document with a RAISED seal and EITHER heading counts as proof of citizenship

Actually they send you a certified copy of of your birth certificate, not a certification of birth, a certification of live birth is issued by a hospital and not a government certificate. I work with these documents. Us citizen born abroad (military). I work with these types of documentation everyday.

And lets us remember not one document, form of money, or anything paper existed until human beings created them, as well as. names and language. What has been put in place could be falsified, placed, or created by any human with access. Many crimes in history have been instituted and created by yes that is correct a human with accesses. At Obama's level of power and interest, had access to have created any documeentation he wishes to provide.

i understand what you are saying, what the Administration posted was NOT what the hospital issues,, it was issued by a GOVERNMENT office with a government seal. I am a mother, after my daughters birth they gave me documentation but told me specifically that it was only for temporary reference (there was no note at the bottom of the document that stated it was legal proof of anything and there was no government seal) until I went to the DEPT OF HEALTH to get my OFFICIAL birth certificate for my child.

Several times, I have went online to request a CERTIFIED copy of my birth certificat, I have the document in my safe and have reviewed it several times,,,the WORDS at the top of the document say,,"Certificate of Birth" OBAmas looks identical to what I received(the information on it) and says "Certification of Live Birth"....the difference is in the wording at the top, but not the information.

this could be a regional thing,,who knows, but the point is THAT INFORMATION serves as proof of citizenship with ANY government agency,,,the minute that seal is on it with the words at the bottom that the document serves as proof in any legal proceeding, it is considered accurate and verified,,,,,the folks who keep pondering over the wording on its TITLE, miss the point of the information on the document and its LEGAL Standing as proof of citizenship

Still all it takes is an input into the computer, a printed piece of paper and a stamp, anyone can do it. I could get in and do it, all I need is a window of time and access.

That is never gooing to happen. Hell the Muslims can't even be peaceful between eachother. The Middle East has fought between itself for centuries. The two fractions of Muzzies hate eachother and will always fight eachother.

That right there shows you how great Islam really is. More American's need to stand up to these wack jobs and say "Not in our country". They need to demolish the Mosque's here and send the Muzzies back home.

This country was built on immigration and integration of many races, should we change the "Great American Melting Pot" for fear of new and unknown and breed more hate here as well? As far as I know, most of the mosques and Arabic population in the US are peaceful people. The radicals are what you speak of correct. You can not ban a race or people based on race religion age or sex. I do believe I read in our very own constitution. Oh yes, and freedom of speech as a citizen of the US. As, I remember most rights and priveleges were gained through demonstartion and freedom of speech. Was it not?

You can when their religion teaches them to hate and kill us and that they will be rewarded if they do. You bet you can.

I am open to all races and I am open to all PEACEFUL religions. Not religions of hate, rape, torture and mass murder.

Okay, I understand and see your point but there is no way you can say that in generalization about The Arabic nations, because I do not see them all jumping into the fray. Besides, since when did the constitution state freedom of religious for all Peaceful religions?

Okay, I understand and see your point, and do not believe in any of that. There is no way you can say that in generalization about The Arabic nations, because I do not see them all jumping into the fray. Besides, since when did the constitution state freedom of religion for all Peaceful religions?

It doesn't need to specify about peaceful religions. The constitution is supposed to protect us from people who want to do us harm, most of those people are Muzzies.

And North Korea doesn't?

That type of infiltration is what is being done (has already been done) by the zionsist to the United States and Great Britain and a few other countries, including Israel.

Its them darn secret societies.