Topic: The Death Penalty
parttime_vikingfan's photo
Mon 06/18/07 04:08 PM
massagetrade: I beg to differ the hypocricy is not in the criminal or
the unborn it is in the person who judges who should live and who should
die and why. The arguement for pro life isnt about innocence or guilt
its about no person or persons having the right to decide who lives and
who dies. I believe that the same arguement applies for criminals.

parttime_vikingfan's photo
Mon 06/18/07 04:14 PM
If you believe in life, then believe all the way. Picking and choosing
is playing God.


"Be Kind to Everyone, For We Are All Fighting Some Kind Of Battle".

seahawks's photo
Mon 06/18/07 04:15 PM
pending the crime, i dont think they should be givin a last meal.!!!!
thats just me.

MoreBass's photo
Mon 06/18/07 04:18 PM
killing is bad. death row is worse. in order for the death penalty to be
an equivalent punishment, a murderer would have to keep his victim
locked alone for 22 hours a day, and inform him of his exact time and
method of death. there is no such monster in our society, except the
judicial system.

MoreBass's photo
Mon 06/18/07 04:18 PM
but if i were on death row, i would ask for beer and pizza. **** yeah.

Snugglesbyfire's photo
Mon 06/18/07 04:21 PM
I like the idea that someone suggested of putting them on their of a
placing them on islands.....having to grow their own food, build their
own places, and learn to survive..


If I remember my history right that is how Australia came about.
:smile:

MoreBass's photo
Mon 06/18/07 04:22 PM
that is how australia came about. my bestest friend haley is there right
now!

seahawks's photo
Mon 06/18/07 04:27 PM
well more i do not want to play, judge, jury ,exicusioner, but if
someone were to murder my family, friends etc, iwould want to see them
pay with there life. u take a life u pay with yur own. just my opinion.

Native_Grl39's photo
Mon 06/18/07 04:28 PM
It takes so long to have someone actually executed because they have so
many avenues open to appeal..apply for pardons from the
governor...etc...IT takes years for all these processes to be used up
before the can actually be executed!!!!!1


flowerforyou drinker

seahawks's photo
Mon 06/18/07 04:30 PM
there's more laws to protect the criminal, then there are for victims,
pretty sad i must say.

Native_Grl39's photo
Mon 06/18/07 04:31 PM
I agree seahawk...and by killing someone and if the death penalty
happens to apply...YOU made the choice by your own actions as to your
penalty!!!!!!!!

The victims NEVER had a choice!!!!!!!!!


flowerforyou drinker

seahawks's photo
Mon 06/18/07 04:32 PM
cheers native my thoughts xactly.!!!!

MoreBass's photo
Mon 06/18/07 04:32 PM
i can honestly say that if anybody killed my family/friends/what have
you, i would fight like hell to keep them off death row. there is too
much violence and hate in the world already, without state sanctioned
killing.

Lakeman's photo
Mon 06/18/07 04:41 PM
I think that those who kill for their own personal gain should be put
down right away. I don't feel that we as taxpayers owe this person a
home and food for the next 50 years!
As for the last meal..I would just order Wildflowerjj for the day and
forget the meal. My diet at that point would have no meaning to
me.drinker drinker laugh laugh

parttime_vikingfan's photo
Mon 06/18/07 05:51 PM
While the pendulum swings between conservative and liberalism The checks
and balances are meant to hold the line on thinking with your head
instead of your heart. (ie. Salem witch killings,)Its what is supposed
to make us different than nations like Germany during WWII. That is why
I think that all means necessary to get the right man is appropriate.
One state. I think it is Arizona is holding a moritorium on death,
because of all the mistaken judgements (over 20%)now proven by DNA. In
essence are you saying better a few innocent people get killed as long
as we MAYBE kill the guilty?? Think about your family as you are being
hauled away under your style of government with no recourse if found
guilty, remember all it takes is beyond REASONABLE doubt.

dazzling_dave's photo
Mon 06/18/07 06:02 PM
Isn't it an amazing coincidence that when the states started to abolish
the death penalty, the murder rate went up.

parttime_vikingfan's photo
Mon 06/18/07 06:32 PM
And when the witch hunts started the death rate went up...so what.
Maybe we ought guess which kids may someday be killers and deal with
them now?

Native_Grl39's photo
Mon 06/18/07 06:38 PM
Yeah well the witches weren't guilty...BUT their guilt was based on a
preconcieved notion...NOT so in a court of law...Plus with the appeal
process and all the other avenues available...It's not like it's one
trial and then they are executed!!!!!!!!!!

Give me guilt...Six ways to Sunday...Confession...DNA etc and I
say...Their crime...their choice...pay the penalty!!!!!!



flowerforyou drinker

parttime_vikingfan's photo
Mon 06/18/07 06:50 PM
you just made my point! It was your assertion that they shouldn't go
thru due process, and now you say its ok that they are. you can't have
it both ways.




Mon 06/18/07 06:38 PM
Yeah well the witches weren't guilty...BUT their guilt was based on a
preconcieved notion...NOT so in a court of law...Plus with the appeal
process and all the other avenues available...It's not like it's one
trial and then they are executed!!!!!!!!!!



All I am saying is that humans are flawed (as well as political) and
sometimes make the wrong choices, and at what price? Maybe nothing to
you, but if the swat team got the wrong address and ran into your house
instead of the serial killers on the next block, well I bet your tune
about due process would change in a hurry!

parttime_vikingfan's photo
Mon 06/18/07 06:52 PM
wrong quote





Mon 06/18/07 04:28 PM
It takes so long to have someone actually executed because they have so
many avenues open to appeal..apply for pardons from the
governor...etc...IT takes years for all these processes to be used up
before the can actually be executed!!!!!1