Topic: A tear for the passing of the gentlemen....
sekinwisdom's photo
Tue 04/13/10 12:02 PM

people like sage, Iam4u, owl, and most others over fifty and on back, have has this engrained in us from small children because it was a must for a formal time. i remember when most wore a fedora style hat out, and a straw hat on the weekends. i still have all mine, and wear them off and on, but i've seen on here, many young men like sekinwisdom here, that are still opening doors and things, even though they are in the minority, but this behavior will renew, and morph as chivalry will not die, but change to more subtle aspects....more like kudos gifts and such. we don't have glen miller at the top of the charts, or Tony Bennet or Perry Como for a good slowdance anymore....
now, it's a good slow phukc on the dance floor to a good trance or chill, or type O- or something done in the dark corner of an industrial club in pvc or leather....or just some pick-up truck out in the country....i've seen it all.....well, maybe not, but i've seen enough...

things aren't as close or rightious, and they make their own rules in more modern times. casual sex has taken over courting, for people can't wait, and are too impatient and want everything right now.... BSDM, light or heavy, is becoming a more staple diet for sex, as people get more and more bored with general vanilla sex and courting, and there's always a mind bender with it, it seems, for everybody's bored with their mind too, and have to get high......

high, used to be....ummm......up?


just my observations again, as i walk in a darker lifestyle than most, and observe, but not participate, as my path is more my own path for my own wisdom.

Sir I once again bow to your wisdom. Introspection it the mother of all understanding and compassion. You seem to me to be one of the worlds many reluctant sages. I see you.

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Tue 04/13/10 01:04 PM


Try southern women; a friend of mine is dating a girl in Alabama and the other day she told him she wanted him to "woo her," I didn't think people still used words like that. So apparently the days of ladies and gentlemen and wooing still exist, you just have to find a woman who's into that sort of thing. Personally it annoys me when a man opens a door for me, I can open doors for myself. But I already pointed out that I'm a tad b!tchy, and therefore, not a lady. I am woman, hear me roar. RAWR!!!!:angel:

Feminism Gods gift to woman.


I'm a bad feminist, I don't want to do everything men do, I want them to do all the yard work.laugh

Anna3121's photo
Tue 04/13/10 01:21 PM
I MISS the gentleman. I AM a lady. But I agree with you. I have been to some chat rooms, and the women can be horrendous. They can sweet as pie one moment and dripping venom the next. I think the gentleman is alive and well, but these new breed of women are not ladies. These new women are suspicious of anyone who is actually nice, because they themselves don't carry that gene. And girls stop pretending that You are nice. You are only nice when you want something. To be a Lady or a Gentlemen means to have consideration for the other person first. Too many women are self- centred, hence the gentleman is not seeked out or appreciated when acquired. Gentlemen everywhere, you are desired and appreciated, but alas the true Lady is becoming a rare jewel, (sometimes we don't come in the prettiest packages) But we ARE here :)

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Tue 04/13/10 01:25 PM
Sekinwisdom, meet Anna, a gentleman and his lady fair, may your love last longer than the 49 songs on my mp3 player. Salut!! drinker

sekinwisdom's photo
Tue 04/13/10 03:46 PM

I MISS the gentleman. I AM a lady. But I agree with you. I have been to some chat rooms, and the women can be horrendous. They can sweet as pie one moment and dripping venom the next. I think the gentleman is alive and well, but these new breed of women are not ladies. These new women are suspicious of anyone who is actually nice, because they themselves don't carry that gene. And girls stop pretending that You are nice. You are only nice when you want something. To be a Lady or a Gentlemen means to have consideration for the other person first. Too many women are self- centred, hence the gentleman is not seeked out or appreciated when acquired. Gentlemen everywhere, you are desired and appreciated, but alas the true Lady is becoming a rare jewel, (sometimes we don't come in the prettiest packages) But we ARE here :)

I knew there were still some ladies out there, sad that I had to threaten conformation in order to meet one. My lady it is very nice to meet you.

zanne46's photo
Tue 04/13/10 03:53 PM

I MISS the gentleman. I AM a lady. But I agree with you. I have been to some chat rooms, and the women can be horrendous. They can sweet as pie one moment and dripping venom the next. I think the gentleman is alive and well, but these new breed of women are not ladies. These new women are suspicious of anyone who is actually nice, because they themselves don't carry that gene. And girls stop pretending that You are nice. You are only nice when you want something. To be a Lady or a Gentlemen means to have consideration for the other person first. Too many women are self- centred, hence the gentleman is not seeked out or appreciated when acquired. Gentlemen everywhere, you are desired and appreciated, but alas the true Lady is becoming a rare jewel, (sometimes we don't come in the prettiest packages) But we ARE here :)


You are a very wise woman...:smile: :wink:

Well said.....I agree with you 100 %......

My guy friend (s) talk about this all the time...

One of is always saying "RED FLAG" BEWARE...RUN...

Best of luck

laugh flowers

kissablekiss's photo
Tue 04/13/10 04:04 PM
time change people change but however there are lots a nice decent men & women out there waiting to be discovered ...why is it we are attracted to things\people that are bad for us .. When the good stuff there in front of us for the taking and we pass it

kissablekiss's photo
Tue 04/13/10 04:04 PM
time change people change but however there are lots a nice decent men & women out there waiting to be discovered ...why is it we are attracted to things\people that are bad for us .. When the good stuff there in front of us for the taking and we pass it

sekinwisdom's photo
Tue 04/13/10 04:04 PM


I MISS the gentleman. I AM a lady. But I agree with you. I have been to some chat rooms, and the women can be horrendous. They can sweet as pie one moment and dripping venom the next. I think the gentleman is alive and well, but these new breed of women are not ladies. These new women are suspicious of anyone who is actually nice, because they themselves don't carry that gene. And girls stop pretending that You are nice. You are only nice when you want something. To be a Lady or a Gentlemen means to have consideration for the other person first. Too many women are self- centred, hence the gentleman is not seeked out or appreciated when acquired. Gentlemen everywhere, you are desired and appreciated, but alas the true Lady is becoming a rare jewel, (sometimes we don't come in the prettiest packages) But we ARE here :)


You are a very wise woman...:smile: :wink:

Well said.....I agree with you 100 %......

My guy friend (s) talk about this all the time...

One of is always saying "RED FLAG" BEWARE...RUN...

Best of luck

laugh flowers

God I hate it when a nice guy brings up a red flag!!! Doesn't nice mean anything anymore??? It used to be a good thing...

sekinwisdom's photo
Tue 04/13/10 04:05 PM

time change people change but however there are lots a nice decent men & women out there waiting to be discovered ...why is it we are attracted to things\people that are bad for us .. When the good stuff there in front of us for the taking and we pass it

Thank you for the voice of reason!!!!

zanne46's photo
Tue 04/13/10 04:07 PM



I MISS the gentleman. I AM a lady. But I agree with you. I have been to some chat rooms, and the women can be horrendous. They can sweet as pie one moment and dripping venom the next. I think the gentleman is alive and well, but these new breed of women are not ladies. These new women are suspicious of anyone who is actually nice, because they themselves don't carry that gene. And girls stop pretending that You are nice. You are only nice when you want something. To be a Lady or a Gentlemen means to have consideration for the other person first. Too many women are self- centred, hence the gentleman is not seeked out or appreciated when acquired. Gentlemen everywhere, you are desired and appreciated, but alas the true Lady is becoming a rare jewel, (sometimes we don't come in the prettiest packages) But we ARE here :)


You are a very wise woman...:smile: :wink:

Well said.....I agree with you 100 %......

My guy friend (s) talk about this all the time...

One of is always saying "RED FLAG" BEWARE...RUN...

Best of luck

laugh flowers

God I hate it when a nice guy brings up a red flag!!! Doesn't nice mean anything anymore??? It used to be a good thing...


carry the American Flag...Red, White, and Blue...you'll be safe...:wink: :smile: laugh

sekinwisdom's photo
Tue 04/13/10 04:10 PM




I MISS the gentleman. I AM a lady. But I agree with you. I have been to some chat rooms, and the women can be horrendous. They can sweet as pie one moment and dripping venom the next. I think the gentleman is alive and well, but these new breed of women are not ladies. These new women are suspicious of anyone who is actually nice, because they themselves don't carry that gene. And girls stop pretending that You are nice. You are only nice when you want something. To be a Lady or a Gentlemen means to have consideration for the other person first. Too many women are self- centred, hence the gentleman is not seeked out or appreciated when acquired. Gentlemen everywhere, you are desired and appreciated, but alas the true Lady is becoming a rare jewel, (sometimes we don't come in the prettiest packages) But we ARE here :)


You are a very wise woman...:smile: :wink:

Well said.....I agree with you 100 %......

My guy friend (s) talk about this all the time...

One of is always saying "RED FLAG" BEWARE...RUN...

Best of luck

laugh flowers

God I hate it when a nice guy brings up a red flag!!! Doesn't nice mean anything anymore??? It used to be a good thing...


carry the American Flag...Red, White, and Blue...you'll be safe...:wink: :smile: laugh

Poor form my dear lady, for I have found that those of us brave enough to carry the red white and blue usually risk their safety for those of us unwilling or unable.

zanne46's photo
Tue 04/13/10 04:13 PM





I MISS the gentleman. I AM a lady. But I agree with you. I have been to some chat rooms, and the women can be horrendous. They can sweet as pie one moment and dripping venom the next. I think the gentleman is alive and well, but these new breed of women are not ladies. These new women are suspicious of anyone who is actually nice, because they themselves don't carry that gene. And girls stop pretending that You are nice. You are only nice when you want something. To be a Lady or a Gentlemen means to have consideration for the other person first. Too many women are self- centred, hence the gentleman is not seeked out or appreciated when acquired. Gentlemen everywhere, you are desired and appreciated, but alas the true Lady is becoming a rare jewel, (sometimes we don't come in the prettiest packages) But we ARE here :)


You are a very wise woman...:smile: :wink:

Well said.....I agree with you 100 %......

My guy friend (s) talk about this all the time...

One of is always saying "RED FLAG" BEWARE...RUN...

Best of luck

laugh flowers

God I hate it when a nice guy brings up a red flag!!! Doesn't nice mean anything anymore??? It used to be a good thing...


carry the American Flag...Red, White, and Blue...you'll be safe...:wink: :smile: laugh

Poor form my dear lady, for I have found that those of us brave enough to carry the red white and blue usually risk their safety for those of us unwilling or unable.


????????

nikita5's photo
Tue 04/13/10 04:18 PM
There really are good men and women out there.I see proof of it everyday.Times have changed,but courtesy and empathy towards others to me is the new definition of a gentlemen or lady.Maybe it is not practiced as much as it should be,but there is still hope.

sekinwisdom's photo
Tue 04/13/10 04:21 PM






I MISS the gentleman. I AM a lady. But I agree with you. I have been to some chat rooms, and the women can be horrendous. They can sweet as pie one moment and dripping venom the next. I think the gentleman is alive and well, but these new breed of women are not ladies. These new women are suspicious of anyone who is actually nice, because they themselves don't carry that gene. And girls stop pretending that You are nice. You are only nice when you want something. To be a Lady or a Gentlemen means to have consideration for the other person first. Too many women are self- centred, hence the gentleman is not seeked out or appreciated when acquired. Gentlemen everywhere, you are desired and appreciated, but alas the true Lady is becoming a rare jewel, (sometimes we don't come in the prettiest packages) But we ARE here :)


You are a very wise woman...:smile: :wink:

Well said.....I agree with you 100 %......

My guy friend (s) talk about this all the time...

One of is always saying "RED FLAG" BEWARE...RUN...

Best of luck

laugh flowers

God I hate it when a nice guy brings up a red flag!!! Doesn't nice mean anything anymore??? It used to be a good thing...


carry the American Flag...Red, White, and Blue...you'll be safe...:wink: :smile: laugh

Poor form my dear lady, for I have found that those of us brave enough to carry the red white and blue usually risk their safety for those of us unwilling or unable.


????????

I am sorry, either the mean remark I made went over your head, which I doubt, or your original remark about red flags, and then the red white and blue flags was taken wrong. After looking back on your above post about, "One of is always saying "RED FLAG" BEWARE...RUN..." I see that you may not have meant anything cruel by it. I am very sensitive today due to all the nice guy bashing going around. So I sincerely apologize for my sensitivity.

sekinwisdom's photo
Tue 04/13/10 04:26 PM

There really are good men and women out there.I see proof of it everyday.Times have changed,but courtesy and empathy towards others to me is the new definition of a gentlemen or lady.Maybe it is not practiced as much as it should be,but there is still hope.

Thank you for offering hope. It is a rare thing these days, and apparently you are a rare woman. Kudos for being your own person.

zanne46's photo
Tue 04/13/10 04:39 PM







I MISS the gentleman. I AM a lady. But I agree with you. I have been to some chat rooms, and the women can be horrendous. They can sweet as pie one moment and dripping venom the next. I think the gentleman is alive and well, but these new breed of women are not ladies. These new women are suspicious of anyone who is actually nice, because they themselves don't carry that gene. And girls stop pretending that You are nice. You are only nice when you want something. To be a Lady or a Gentlemen means to have consideration for the other person first. Too many women are self- centred, hence the gentleman is not seeked out or appreciated when acquired. Gentlemen everywhere, you are desired and appreciated, but alas the true Lady is becoming a rare jewel, (sometimes we don't come in the prettiest packages) But we ARE here :)


You are a very wise woman...:smile: :wink:

Well said.....I agree with you 100 %......

My guy friend (s) talk about this all the time...

One of is always saying "RED FLAG" BEWARE...RUN...

Best of luck

laugh flowers

God I hate it when a nice guy brings up a red flag!!! Doesn't nice mean anything anymore??? It used to be a good thing...


carry the American Flag...Red, White, and Blue...you'll be safe...:wink: :smile: laugh

Poor form my dear lady, for I have found that those of us brave enough to carry the red white and blue usually risk their safety for those of us unwilling or unable.


????????

I am sorry, either the mean remark I made went over your head, which I doubt, or your original remark about red flags, and then the red white and blue flags was taken wrong. After looking back on your above post about, "One of is always saying "RED FLAG" BEWARE...RUN..." I see that you may not have meant anything cruel by it. I am very sensitive today due to all the nice guy bashing going around. So I sincerely apologize for my sensitivity.


not a problem...thats why I ????? you.

We will always see red flags...between both men and woman...

I could have ramble ...I do that alot..lol.

I'm tired...forgive me..

Umm, my first thought when I made the r/w/b flag comment..was my sons....I always told them...I see "red"....then they really are going to see red from mama....And I don't care how old they are...

I raised them to be respectful, loving, commited, compassioate etc..young men...

My 21 yr old who is a Marine, is married ,with a newborn...they have been toghether since 8th grade.At his age....he is an amazing HUSBAND and FATHER....

The flag thing is..saying...the good guys carry themselves..red white and blue....honorable....

Others..choose the red....I have learned to about face quicker as I have gotten older....

Closing..You are red, white and blue.......compliment...

papersmile's photo
Tue 04/13/10 04:44 PM
Ladies can open their own doors and buy their own dinners, and generally have no need of a what used to be considered a good man.


so all a man has to do is buy a dinner and open a door and they are considered a 'good man'?

just because a guy uses all these rarely-used words, doesn't make him classy, a gentleman, or a good man.

it mostly just makes me laugh at him.

sekinwisdom's photo
Tue 04/13/10 04:45 PM








I MISS the gentleman. I AM a lady. But I agree with you. I have been to some chat rooms, and the women can be horrendous. They can sweet as pie one moment and dripping venom the next. I think the gentleman is alive and well, but these new breed of women are not ladies. These new women are suspicious of anyone who is actually nice, because they themselves don't carry that gene. And girls stop pretending that You are nice. You are only nice when you want something. To be a Lady or a Gentlemen means to have consideration for the other person first. Too many women are self- centred, hence the gentleman is not seeked out or appreciated when acquired. Gentlemen everywhere, you are desired and appreciated, but alas the true Lady is becoming a rare jewel, (sometimes we don't come in the prettiest packages) But we ARE here :)


You are a very wise woman...:smile: :wink:

Well said.....I agree with you 100 %......

My guy friend (s) talk about this all the time...

One of is always saying "RED FLAG" BEWARE...RUN...

Best of luck

laugh flowers

God I hate it when a nice guy brings up a red flag!!! Doesn't nice mean anything anymore??? It used to be a good thing...


carry the American Flag...Red, White, and Blue...you'll be safe...:wink: :smile: laugh

Poor form my dear lady, for I have found that those of us brave enough to carry the red white and blue usually risk their safety for those of us unwilling or unable.


????????

I am sorry, either the mean remark I made went over your head, which I doubt, or your original remark about red flags, and then the red white and blue flags was taken wrong. After looking back on your above post about, "One of is always saying "RED FLAG" BEWARE...RUN..." I see that you may not have meant anything cruel by it. I am very sensitive today due to all the nice guy bashing going around. So I sincerely apologize for my sensitivity.


not a problem...thats why I ????? you.

We will always see red flags...between both men and woman...

I could have ramble ...I do that alot..lol.

I'm tired...forgive me..

Umm, my first thought when I made the r/w/b flag comment..was my sons....I always told them...I see "red"....then they really are going to see red from mama....And I don't care how old they are...

I raised them to be respectful, loving, commited, compassioate etc..young men...

My 21 yr old who is a Marine, is married ,with a newborn...they have been toghether since 8th grade.At his age....he is an amazing HUSBAND and FATHER....

The flag thing is..saying...the good guys carry themselves..red white and blue....honorable....

Others..choose the red....I have learned to about face quicker as I have gotten older....

Closing..You are red, white and blue.......compliment...

Once again I find that the conclusions I often jump to are inaccurate. I apologize to you from the bottom of my heart, and want to thank you for your sons service, he sounds like a very good man.

zanne46's photo
Tue 04/13/10 04:48 PM
Thank You....:wink: :smile: flowers