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i read the news about the terrible thing that happened in poland and was talking to a friend about another terrible that that most people didnt even know about (including me). this is what she called the Katyn Massacre. she asked if i would let more americans know so i decided to start this topic. i will be leaving to go to my grandfathers house but please feel free to talk amongst yourselves till i get back home.
for some information go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre |
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Edited by
Kings_Knight
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Sat 04/10/10 11:00 AM
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Here are two links you may find helpful in your research ...
http://www.katyn.org.au/ http://www.katyn.org.au/hole.html As an aside, most people are also unaware that the German invasion of Poland was done using a false claim of 'invasion' by the Poles. The Germans used prisoners that they dressed in Polish uniforms. The prisoners were taken to the German side of the border and shot (while in 'uniform') and then photographed. The photographs were then used to 'establish' Germany's 'right' to respond to 'invasion' by the Poles. |
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20,000 poles...
they shot 65,000 of their own men during the battle of Stalingrad.. the NKVD were some seriously twisted individuals.. |
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Aint war hell
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Most Americans aren't really up on relatively recent world history.
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Most Americans aren't really up on relatively recent world history. I wonder why... |
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Most Americans aren't really up on relatively recent world history. I wonder why... Because the parents are to busy griping about what the public schools teach their kids to actually get any teaching done... Shakes head. |
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Edited by
cashu
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Sat 04/10/10 05:45 PM
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Most Americans aren't really up on relatively recent world history. I wonder why... Because the parents are to busy griping about what the public schools teach their kids to actually get any teaching done... Shakes head. If the public schools would teach the kids what the parents ask there wouldn't be anyone standing shakeing there heads . if teachers would go back teaching the 3r s we would all be happy . I see no reason for teachers to inject them self in the sex lives of kids and i do expect them to be protected when they are in school . An parents are not a part of the teaching program . SO STOP BLAMEING THEM FOR YOU NOT DOING THE JOB YOU WERE HIRED FOR . acadiemics not bull sh . We don't sennd them to school for you to friends with . One last thing , don't get involed with the politics in school kids lifes . Your not there to take sides , no one needs you to side with the rug rats you like against the ones that are not so popular . to put it in a simple way for you . teach them how to read write and add . nothing else ...... |
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Here are two links you may find helpful in your research ... http://www.katyn.org.au/ http://www.katyn.org.au/hole.html As an aside, most people are also unaware that the German invasion of Poland was done using a false claim of 'invasion' by the Poles. The Germans used prisoners that they dressed in Polish uniforms. The prisoners were taken to the German side of the border and shot (while in 'uniform') and then photographed. The photographs were then used to 'establish' Germany's 'right' to respond to 'invasion' by the Poles. thanks for the extra info...i never really new about this until my friend from poland told me about it 
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You may also find it interesting (if more than just a bit ironic) that 'The ONE' deliberately chose to announce his decision to cancel the Missile Shield Program for Poland on PRECISELY the same date (70 years ago to the day) that the Soviets invaded Poland: September 17, 1939.
He made his announcement on Constitution day, 2009. On the day when our country celebrates the freedoms given to us by its Constitution, the POTUS capitulated to an oppressive regime and duplicated the actions of Neville Chamberlain by selling out the same allies that Chamberlain did before WWII began. Here's a link to an article about that Soviet invasion you may find helpful: http://www.oste.eu/soviet_invasion_of_poland_1939_en.html |
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Most Americans aren't really up on relatively recent world history. I wonder why... In a nutshell, Id say many of us have our priorities on different things,, things that affect us more immediately |
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If the public schools would teach the kids what the parents ask there wouldn't be anyone standing shakeing there heads . if teachers would go back teaching the 3r s we would all be happy . I see no reason for teachers to inject them self in the sex lives of kids and i do expect them to be protected when they are in school . An parents are not a part of the teaching program . SO STOP BLAMEING THEM FOR YOU NOT DOING THE JOB YOU WERE HIRED FOR . acadiemics not bull sh . We don't sennd them to school for you to friends with . One last thing , don't get involed with the politics in school kids lifes . Your not there to take sides , no one needs you to side with the rug rats you like against the ones that are not so popular . to put it in a simple way for you . teach them how to read write and add . nothing else ...... I may have read wrong, but here are just a few things I got from this: A)Parents aren't responsible for teaching their children. ----Really? It has been my experience that most (note the word most, not all) children whose parents don't play a part in their learning experience end up being worthless morons. B)Children should learn to read, write, and add. Nothing more. ----Hmmmmm.... Only knowing how to read, write, and add... well, that makes it pretty difficult to think on your own, which is a huge problem with this generation. But, I can't complain too much about this one, seeing as how you must have come from a school that didn't teach these. C)Teachers shouldn't get involved in student life outside the school. ----Once again, just from personal experience, I have found that students who didn't have a relationship with their teachers had problems at home as well, and ended up turning to drug and alcohol abuse. If you haven't noticed, I strongly disagree with your apparent ignorance (or maybe mine is causing me to disagree lol). JMHO, and I felt it should be known :D Have a great day everybody |
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Most Americans aren't really up on relatively recent world history. I wonder why... In a nutshell, Id say many of us have our priorities on different things,, things that affect us more immediately Right. So that means Santayana was wrong when he said that "Those who cannot remember history are condemned to repeat it." ... ? There is more to life than immediate need and immediate gratification ... the 'pleasure of the immediate' is one of the reasons we have the problems we have now. |
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Most Americans aren't really up on relatively recent world history. I wonder why... In a nutshell, Id say many of us have our priorities on different things,, things that affect us more immediately Right. So that means Santayana was wrong when he said that "Those who cannot remember history are condemned to repeat it." ... ? There is more to life than immediate need and immediate gratification ... the 'pleasure of the immediate' is one of the reasons we have the problems we have now. no, actually, it means that we cant remember that which we werent a part of and not everyone has the same history. This makes it difficult to define which pieces of the WORLDS history should be uniformly taught or not taught in school. In general, I believe people should be taught at home those parts of history that their family deems important. Other than that,, I believe I would be no worse off if I had never learned american history as my values and ethics which guide me through certain 'mistakes' are based more in biblical history(the history of MY family's choice). |
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If the public schools would teach the kids what the parents ask there wouldn't be anyone standing shakeing there heads . if teachers would go back teaching the 3r s we would all be happy . I see no reason for teachers to inject them self in the sex lives of kids and i do expect them to be protected when they are in school . An parents are not a part of the teaching program . SO STOP BLAMEING THEM FOR YOU NOT DOING THE JOB YOU WERE HIRED FOR . acadiemics not bull sh . We don't sennd them to school for you to friends with . One last thing , don't get involed with the politics in school kids lifes . Your not there to take sides , no one needs you to side with the rug rats you like against the ones that are not so popular . to put it in a simple way for you . teach them how to read write and add . nothing else ...... I may have read wrong, but here are just a few things I got from this: A)Parents aren't responsible for teaching their children. ----Really? It has been my experience that most (note the word most, not all) children whose parents don't play a part in their learning experience end up being worthless morons. B)Children should learn to read, write, and add. Nothing more. ----Hmmmmm.... Only knowing how to read, write, and add... well, that makes it pretty difficult to think on your own, which is a huge problem with this generation. But, I can't complain too much about this one, seeing as how you must have come from a school that didn't teach these. C)Teachers shouldn't get involved in student life outside the school. ----Once again, just from personal experience, I have found that students who didn't have a relationship with their teachers had problems at home as well, and ended up turning to drug and alcohol abuse. If you haven't noticed, I strongly disagree with your apparent ignorance (or maybe mine is causing me to disagree lol). JMHO, and I felt it should be known :D Have a great day everybody [/quote i can only hope it was a female that gave you all that special att. and as i said I want teachers to do what the job discribtion they were hired for . I want the schools to do what we built them for . we don't need worthless peope around our kids [ teach them don't breed them ] now just because you have been humped don't think they all should be ..... |
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If the public schools would teach the kids what the parents ask there wouldn't be anyone standing shakeing there heads . if teachers would go back teaching the 3r s we would all be happy . I see no reason for teachers to inject them self in the sex lives of kids and i do expect them to be protected when they are in school . An parents are not a part of the teaching program . SO STOP BLAMEING THEM FOR YOU NOT DOING THE JOB YOU WERE HIRED FOR . acadiemics not bull sh . We don't sennd them to school for you to friends with . One last thing , don't get involed with the politics in school kids lifes . Your not there to take sides , no one needs you to side with the rug rats you like against the ones that are not so popular . to put it in a simple way for you . teach them how to read write and add . nothing else ...... I may have read wrong, but here are just a few things I got from this: A)Parents aren't responsible for teaching their children. ----Really? It has been my experience that most (note the word most, not all) children whose parents don't play a part in their learning experience end up being worthless morons. B)Children should learn to read, write, and add. Nothing more. ----Hmmmmm.... Only knowing how to read, write, and add... well, that makes it pretty difficult to think on your own, which is a huge problem with this generation. But, I can't complain too much about this one, seeing as how you must have come from a school that didn't teach these. C)Teachers shouldn't get involved in student life outside the school. ----Once again, just from personal experience, I have found that students who didn't have a relationship with their teachers had problems at home as well, and ended up turning to drug and alcohol abuse. If you haven't noticed, I strongly disagree with your apparent ignorance (or maybe mine is causing me to disagree lol). JMHO, and I felt it should be known :D Have a great day everybody [/quote i can only hope it was a female that gave you all that special att. and as i said I want teachers to do what the job discribtion they were hired for . I want the schools to do what we built them for . we don't need worthless peope around our kids [ teach them don't breed them ] now just because you have been humped don't think they all should be ..... |
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If the public schools would teach the kids what the parents ask there wouldn't be anyone standing shakeing there heads . if teachers would go back teaching the 3r s we would all be happy . I see no reason for teachers to inject them self in the sex lives of kids and i do expect them to be protected when they are in school . An parents are not a part of the teaching program . SO STOP BLAMEING THEM FOR YOU NOT DOING THE JOB YOU WERE HIRED FOR . acadiemics not bull sh . We don't sennd them to school for you to friends with . One last thing , don't get involed with the politics in school kids lifes . Your not there to take sides , no one needs you to side with the rug rats you like against the ones that are not so popular . to put it in a simple way for you . teach them how to read write and add . nothing else ...... I may have read wrong, but here are just a few things I got from this: A)Parents aren't responsible for teaching their children. ----Really? It has been my experience that most (note the word most, not all) children whose parents don't play a part in their learning experience end up being worthless morons. B)Children should learn to read, write, and add. Nothing more. ----Hmmmmm.... Only knowing how to read, write, and add... well, that makes it pretty difficult to think on your own, which is a huge problem with this generation. But, I can't complain too much about this one, seeing as how you must have come from a school that didn't teach these. C)Teachers shouldn't get involved in student life outside the school. ----Once again, just from personal experience, I have found that students who didn't have a relationship with their teachers had problems at home as well, and ended up turning to drug and alcohol abuse. If you haven't noticed, I strongly disagree with your apparent ignorance (or maybe mine is causing me to disagree lol). JMHO, and I felt it should be known :D Have a great day everybody Don't worry, I'm confused too, and that's what I took away from it. And I'm trying to figure out if Cashu thinks I'm a teacher?! My best teachers, female AND male, were the ones who worked with my parents, and knew me from outside the classroom. Heck, one teacher who is semi-retired now, managed to get in contact with the family when she was vacationing through Texas. That was an absolute blast, as she was a very central figure in my life 20 years ago. My parents were involved, so I didn't have drug problems, but I know many people who can basically swear that they wouldn't be who they were if there wasn't a caring teacher to help them in dealing with their broken homes. I'm going to fall back on your words, Crimdolyn, as I am in agreement with you. As far as history lessons, Kings_Knight and MsHarmony, I think it's amazing what gets swept to the side. Basic information, at least needs to be taught. Even accounting for changes, and new things learned over the years, it's still a background. Not to mention how much of every day news gets swept to the side because it's politically incorrect or something. |
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for educators, I think the emphasis should be in areas which are going to be MANDATORY to compete in the job market,, those areas which may or may not add to character or increase some specialized area of logic(history, geography, chemistry) should be completely elective or taught in the family,,,,,but thats just my opinion
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Edited by
Crimdolyn
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Mon 04/12/10 05:59 AM
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i can only hope it was a female that gave you all that special att. and as i said I want teachers to do what the job discribtion they were hired for . I want the schools to do what we built them for . we don't need worthless peope around our kids [ teach them don't breed them ] now just because you have been humped don't think they all should be ..... Well, since you need to be taught, we will start with spelling. discribtion --- description peope --- people I do like how I took your statements and made arguments, but you took mine and assumed I've been having sex with teachers....  P.S. Next weeks class will be over the basics of proper sentence structure. |
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" ... As far as history lessons, Kings_Knight and MsHarmony, I think it's amazing what gets swept to the side. Basic information, at least needs to be taught. Even accounting for changes, and new things learned over the years, it's still a background.
Not to mention how much of every day news gets swept to the side because it's politically incorrect or something. ... " Equus, this is one thing about which we agree. The old saying that 'History is written by the victors' is, in large part, true. As for WHAT needs to be taught, my question is: Why should ANY of it NOT be taught? The problem now is that we have the 'politically correct' versions of 'history' being taught. Rather than understanding what forces led up to events and set particular dynamics in motion, kids now are being taught 'demonization' of the participants in history. Example: The protests against Columbus and his 'treatment' of the 'indians'. That's just one. I understand that the way people behaved during earlier times may not please people who view events through the rosy lens of 'political correctness' (I prefer 'doublespeak'), but that does not mean the events didn't happen as presented. The presentation of fact as 'feeling' is not history - it's indoctrination. |
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