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Topic: America: The Grim Truth
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Sun 04/11/10 04:35 PM
My girlfriend was an exchange student in Germany. She tells me the healthcare in Europe is fantastic. You can go to a dentist office if you feel you have something stuck in your teeth.

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Sun 04/11/10 10:03 PM

My girlfriend was an exchange student in Germany. She tells me the healthcare in Europe is fantastic. You can go to a dentist office if you feel you have something stuck in your teeth.


I worked with several visa(foreign) workers at my past job,, from France, Italy, Switzerland and even Germany and they were all pretty disappointed about our current health care system and gave it pretty low marks....

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Sun 04/11/10 10:20 PM

My girlfriend was an exchange student in Germany. She tells me the healthcare in Europe is fantastic. You can go to a dentist office if you feel you have something stuck in your teeth.


That's because of price controls they use there. EU unemployment was at 10% last month, and there's more to come as the currency meltdown continues here. As the old saying goes "you can't get something for nothing".

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Sun 04/11/10 10:38 PM


My girlfriend was an exchange student in Germany. She tells me the healthcare in Europe is fantastic. You can go to a dentist office if you feel you have something stuck in your teeth.


I worked with several visa(foreign) workers at my past job,, from France, Italy, Switzerland and even Germany and they were all pretty disappointed about our current health care system and gave it pretty low marks....


Gee. That's a shame. Did they happen to USE our 'current health care system' while they were here ... ? 'Disappointed' ... awwwwww ...

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Sun 04/11/10 11:13 PM



My girlfriend was an exchange student in Germany. She tells me the healthcare in Europe is fantastic. You can go to a dentist office if you feel you have something stuck in your teeth.


I worked with several visa(foreign) workers at my past job,, from France, Italy, Switzerland and even Germany and they were all pretty disappointed about our current health care system and gave it pretty low marks....


Gee. That's a shame. Did they happen to USE our 'current health care system' while they were here ... ? 'Disappointed' ... awwwwww ...



yes, actually, they did try but did not get the quality of service they were accustomed to,,,one in particular was fluent in five different languages and was still not able to get sufficient help for her husband when he was in an accident because they couldnt understand him and would not listen to her,,,

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Mon 04/12/10 06:23 PM




My girlfriend was an exchange student in Germany. She tells me the healthcare in Europe is fantastic. You can go to a dentist office if you feel you have something stuck in your teeth.


I worked with several visa(foreign) workers at my past job,, from France, Italy, Switzerland and even Germany and they were all pretty disappointed about our current health care system and gave it pretty low marks....


Gee. That's a shame. Did they happen to USE our 'current health care system' while they were here ... ? 'Disappointed' ... awwwwww ...



yes, actually, they did try but did not get the quality of service they were accustomed to,,,one in particular was fluent in five different languages and was still not able to get sufficient help for her husband when he was in an accident because they couldnt understand him and would not listen to her,,,



tell me about it. I was in a car accident, a long time ago. I had a concushion(ok, I've no idea how to spell that). I had to wait 5.5 hrs in the emergency room to see a doctor. Appearently, I had to pass out first.
A nurse friend of mine told me a trick to seeing a doctor immediatly, if you need one immediatly, in the emergency room. Tell them you're having trouble breathing.

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Mon 04/12/10 07:18 PM





My girlfriend was an exchange student in Germany. She tells me the healthcare in Europe is fantastic. You can go to a dentist office if you feel you have something stuck in your teeth.


I worked with several visa(foreign) workers at my past job,, from France, Italy, Switzerland and even Germany and they were all pretty disappointed about our current health care system and gave it pretty low marks....


Gee. That's a shame. Did they happen to USE our 'current health care system' while they were here ... ? 'Disappointed' ... awwwwww ...



yes, actually, they did try but did not get the quality of service they were accustomed to,,,one in particular was fluent in five different languages and was still not able to get sufficient help for her husband when he was in an accident because they couldnt understand him and would not listen to her,,,



tell me about it. I was in a car accident, a long time ago. I had a concushion(ok, I've no idea how to spell that). I had to wait 5.5 hrs in the emergency room to see a doctor. Appearently, I had to pass out first.
A nurse friend of mine told me a trick to seeing a doctor immediatly, if you need one immediatly, in the emergency room. Tell them you're having trouble breathing.



I think people overlook how complex healthcare really is. I understand that we have great SPECIALIZED care for things such as cancer or limb replacement,,,etc,,,

but when it comes to BASIC care,, we are falling very short considering the wealth and resources available to us,,

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Mon 04/12/10 07:34 PM
" ... tell me about it. I was in a car accident, a long time ago. I had a concushion(ok, I've no idea how to spell that). I had to wait 5.5 hrs in the emergency room to see a doctor. Appearently, I had to pass out first. A nurse friend of mine told me a trick to seeing a doctor immediatly, if you need one immediatly, in the emergency room. Tell them you're having trouble breathing. ... "

Wow. This trick puts you in the same class as all the illegal aliens who flood our ERs and use 'em for primary care. Congratulations. If you're gonna try that, why not jump ALL the way to the head of the line and complain of CHEST PAIN? That's a guaranteed ticket to the front ... it's also a lie if you aren't having 'em.

" ... yes, actually, they did try but did not get the quality of service they were accustomed to,,,one in particular was fluent in five different languages and was still not able to get sufficient help for her husband when he was in an accident because they couldnt understand him and would not listen to her,, .... "

And what, he asked, IS the 'quality of service they were accustomed to' ... ? If one of 'em was fluent in FIVE different languages and one of 'em wasn't ENGLISH, that's a pretty big oversight on their part since English is the most widely-used language worldwide. If HE couldn't speak, WHY wasn't she able to communicate with them? Medical professionals I've known always listen to anyone who can tell them what the problem is, especially if the injured party is unable to speak. As for the lack of communication, maybe in the 'quality of service they were accustomed to' part of the world, they either (a) all speak the same language, or (b) have professional translators on staff as one of the 'benefits' of Nanny-state medical care. Please. This may be true, but it really smacks of a 'prissy' attitude ...


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Mon 04/12/10 08:24 PM

" ... tell me about it. I was in a car accident, a long time ago. I had a concushion(ok, I've no idea how to spell that). I had to wait 5.5 hrs in the emergency room to see a doctor. Appearently, I had to pass out first. A nurse friend of mine told me a trick to seeing a doctor immediatly, if you need one immediatly, in the emergency room. Tell them you're having trouble breathing. ... "

Wow. This trick puts you in the same class as all the illegal aliens who flood our ERs and use 'em for primary care. Congratulations. If you're gonna try that, why not jump ALL the way to the head of the line and complain of CHEST PAIN? That's a guaranteed ticket to the front ... it's also a lie if you aren't having 'em.

" ... yes, actually, they did try but did not get the quality of service they were accustomed to,,,one in particular was fluent in five different languages and was still not able to get sufficient help for her husband when he was in an accident because they couldnt understand him and would not listen to her,, .... "

And what, he asked, IS the 'quality of service they were accustomed to' ... ? If one of 'em was fluent in FIVE different languages and one of 'em wasn't ENGLISH, that's a pretty big oversight on their part since English is the most widely-used language worldwide. If HE couldn't speak, WHY wasn't she able to communicate with them? Medical professionals I've known always listen to anyone who can tell them what the problem is, especially if the injured party is unable to speak. As for the lack of communication, maybe in the 'quality of service they were accustomed to' part of the world, they either (a) all speak the same language, or (b) have professional translators on staff as one of the 'benefits' of Nanny-state medical care. Please. This may be true, but it really smacks of a 'prissy' attitude ...






actually, from the region she comes, there are several different BORDER countries as close in proximity as our states,, and because she traveled quite a bit she was fluent in those languages INCLUDING english. They didnt allow her to speak for him,,,,and I have been in hospitals as an american and seen the low quality attention and care for basic health,,,so its not prissiness, just honesty about how our system could stand improvement.

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