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Topic: Are you a Terrorist???
JustAGuy2112's photo
Thu 03/25/10 11:41 PM
Rep. Clyburn says you are if you oppose ObamaCare.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/03/25/rep_clyburn_health_care_opponents_aiding_and_abetting_terrorism.html


Lpdon's photo
Thu 03/25/10 11:44 PM


This ***** gotta stop. These clowns are just encouraging the violence.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Thu 03/25/10 11:53 PM
It isn't going to stop. They'll milk it for all they can to try to distract people from the fact that they passed it against the will of the people.

boredinaz06's photo
Thu 03/25/10 11:54 PM




Oh there's a surprise! From the party that tells us to be tolerant of other people and their views we get this lil sweetheart, what a joke!

JustAGuy2112's photo
Thu 03/25/10 11:56 PM
Ain't it great???

Has anyone in the media managed to find ( since they are so hyped about the " violence " right now ) even ONE instance of a riot caused by conservative people??

But yet, there are riots during WTO meetings....by " Liberals " who preach tolerance.

And they have the gall to call Conservatives hypocrites.

Lpdon's photo
Thu 03/25/10 11:57 PM
This is exactly why **** doesn't get done, and all sides are to blame.

msharmony's photo
Fri 03/26/10 12:21 AM



terrorists oppose the reform,, socialists and communists support it,,,,,the name calling is also nothing new on either side

Etrain's photo
Fri 03/26/10 12:21 AM
I think there needs to be health care for all US citizens...I have to admit I am very disturbed with this bill and with our government in generalfrustrated frustrated frustrated

JustAGuy2112's photo
Fri 03/26/10 12:23 AM

I think there needs to be health care for all US citizens...I have to admit I am very disturbed with this bill and with our government in generalfrustrated frustrated frustrated


I agree. People should be covered.

But this bill...it isn't the way to do it. Handing the insurance companies a big ole gift isn't gonna do a THING to bring premiums down.

msharmony's photo
Fri 03/26/10 12:24 AM

I think there needs to be health care for all US citizens...I have to admit I am very disturbed with this bill and with our government in generalfrustrated frustrated frustrated



I agree about health care, I am pleased with the bill, I am always frustrated when grown folks behave like children or pompous jerks though,, but I dont expect our politicians to be so much better than their constituents,,,they are all just people

Etrain's photo
Fri 03/26/10 12:29 AM


I think there needs to be health care for all US citizens...I have to admit I am very disturbed with this bill and with our government in generalfrustrated frustrated frustrated


I agree. People should be covered.

But this bill...it isn't the way to do it. Handing the insurance companies a big ole gift isn't gonna do a THING to bring premiums down.

Regulation of the insurance companies, doctors, and all the other BS...thats what I think should be happening....and these close door meetings our government seems to think they have a right to have...very disturbing

JustAGuy2112's photo
Fri 03/26/10 12:35 AM



I think there needs to be health care for all US citizens...I have to admit I am very disturbed with this bill and with our government in generalfrustrated frustrated frustrated


I agree. People should be covered.

But this bill...it isn't the way to do it. Handing the insurance companies a big ole gift isn't gonna do a THING to bring premiums down.

Regulation of the insurance companies, doctors, and all the other BS...thats what I think should be happening....and these close door meetings our government seems to think they have a right to have...very disturbing


Regulations on premiums...perhaps.

But anyone with any knowledge of economics knows that they could have gone a long way toward fixing the problem by simply allowing ALL insurance companies to compete against each other nationwide.

The bigger the supply of providers, the more competition for customers. The more competition for customers, the lower the prices.

Regulations on doctors?? Nope.

Doctors charge as much as they do for a couple of reasons. They have to pay back MASSIVE amounts of debt in the form of student loans. They also have to pay extremely high malpractice insurance premiums due, in large part, to our sue happy society.

One complaint I saw a lot was that doctors perform too many tests which drove up costs. Well...they HAVE to do all those tests because if they didn't, they'd probably get sued. Better for them to cover ALL the bases even if some of the tests wound up being unnecessary.

Etrain's photo
Fri 03/26/10 12:39 AM




I think there needs to be health care for all US citizens...I have to admit I am very disturbed with this bill and with our government in generalfrustrated frustrated frustrated


I agree. People should be covered.

But this bill...it isn't the way to do it. Handing the insurance companies a big ole gift isn't gonna do a THING to bring premiums down.

Regulation of the insurance companies, doctors, and all the other BS...thats what I think should be happening....and these close door meetings our government seems to think they have a right to have...very disturbing


Regulations on premiums...perhaps.

But anyone with any knowledge of economics knows that they could have gone a long way toward fixing the problem by simply allowing ALL insurance companies to compete against each other nationwide.

The bigger the supply of providers, the more competition for customers. The more competition for customers, the lower the prices.

Regulations on doctors?? Nope.

Doctors charge as much as they do for a couple of reasons. They have to pay back MASSIVE amounts of debt in the form of student loans. They also have to pay extremely high malpractice insurance premiums due, in large part, to our sue happy society.

One complaint I saw a lot was that doctors perform too many tests which drove up costs. Well...they HAVE to do all those tests because if they didn't, they'd probably get sued. Better for them to cover ALL the bases even if some of the tests wound up being unnecessary.


Insurance companies to compete against each other nationwide...now that would help a lot...good ideadrinker drinker drinker

misstina2's photo
Fri 03/26/10 12:42 AM
It's my understanding that this isn't the final result but a beginning of a process to change healthcare and regulate the cost the healthcare

JustAGuy2112's photo
Fri 03/26/10 12:57 AM





I think there needs to be health care for all US citizens...I have to admit I am very disturbed with this bill and with our government in generalfrustrated frustrated frustrated


I agree. People should be covered.

But this bill...it isn't the way to do it. Handing the insurance companies a big ole gift isn't gonna do a THING to bring premiums down.

Regulation of the insurance companies, doctors, and all the other BS...thats what I think should be happening....and these close door meetings our government seems to think they have a right to have...very disturbing


Regulations on premiums...perhaps.

But anyone with any knowledge of economics knows that they could have gone a long way toward fixing the problem by simply allowing ALL insurance companies to compete against each other nationwide.

The bigger the supply of providers, the more competition for customers. The more competition for customers, the lower the prices.

Regulations on doctors?? Nope.

Doctors charge as much as they do for a couple of reasons. They have to pay back MASSIVE amounts of debt in the form of student loans. They also have to pay extremely high malpractice insurance premiums due, in large part, to our sue happy society.

One complaint I saw a lot was that doctors perform too many tests which drove up costs. Well...they HAVE to do all those tests because if they didn't, they'd probably get sued. Better for them to cover ALL the bases even if some of the tests wound up being unnecessary.


Insurance companies to compete against each other nationwide...now that would help a lot...good ideadrinker drinker drinker


Yep. Simple economics. Supply and demand.

What the government did, by limiting insurance companies to certain " regions ", was basically hand them a monopoly.

And then they got all confused as to why costs for insurance kept going up.slaphead

JustAGuy2112's photo
Fri 03/26/10 12:59 AM

It's my understanding that this isn't the final result but a beginning of a process to change healthcare and regulate the cost the healthcare


Regulate. What a funny word that is.

I wonder if they realized that their " regulating " of insurance companies which limited them to certain regions of the country is what CAUSED the costs to keep climbing in the first place.


Nahhh....politicians haven't the slightest clue of economics.

After all...right now...they figure throwing money at problems will actually fix them.

misstina2's photo
Fri 03/26/10 01:01 AM
I wonder how many people complaining got out and voted.I voted for change and thats what is happening

msharmony's photo
Fri 03/26/10 01:07 AM


It's my understanding that this isn't the final result but a beginning of a process to change healthcare and regulate the cost the healthcare


Regulate. What a funny word that is.

I wonder if they realized that their " regulating " of insurance companies which limited them to certain regions of the country is what CAUSED the costs to keep climbing in the first place.


Nahhh....politicians haven't the slightest clue of economics.

After all...right now...they figure throwing money at problems will actually fix them.


can you explain how the limits work,, at the risk of sounding underinformed,,,,,because the insurance in my immediate family , aetna, bcbs,,,are available in Ohio as well as in Nevada,, how does the REGIONAL regulation work?

JustAGuy2112's photo
Fri 03/26/10 01:07 AM
So..if someone didn't vote...they should just shut up and sit down??

I did vote, by the way.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Fri 03/26/10 01:10 AM
Edited by JustAGuy2112 on Fri 03/26/10 01:12 AM



It's my understanding that this isn't the final result but a beginning of a process to change healthcare and regulate the cost the healthcare


Regulate. What a funny word that is.

I wonder if they realized that their " regulating " of insurance companies which limited them to certain regions of the country is what CAUSED the costs to keep climbing in the first place.


Nahhh....politicians haven't the slightest clue of economics.

After all...right now...they figure throwing money at problems will actually fix them.


can you explain how the limits work,, at the risk of sounding underinformed,,,,,because the insurance in my immediate family , aetna, bcbs,,,are available in Ohio as well as in Nevada,, how does the REGIONAL regulation work?


To my knowledge, from what I have read.

Aetna is available in Ohio and Nevada....probably a bunch of states in between....but not where I live.

Not one insurance company is allowed to work in every state in the Union. Nor even in the lower 48.

I take that back. There is one. Blue Cross is available in every state ( as far as I know ) through an affiliate in each state.


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