Topic: Is the end of time here?
lonelybob1959's photo
Tue 03/02/10 09:28 PM
I'm not trying to say anything-I just ask a simple question!- But a perverse generation wants a sign-My dear friends what happened in 1948? What you should be asking yourself is how long a generation is? Some of us do not think things all the way through. Back in Noe's day, a generation was 100's of years- but what about now? Well here is another one of thoughts for you to twist around-huh?

msharmony's photo
Tue 03/02/10 10:29 PM

I'm not trying to say anything-I just ask a simple question!- But a perverse generation wants a sign-My dear friends what happened in 1948? What you should be asking yourself is how long a generation is? Some of us do not think things all the way through. Back in Noe's day, a generation was 100's of years- but what about now? Well here is another one of thoughts for you to twist around-huh?



everything must come to an end. even this way of 'life' we have come to learn as inevitable and unchanging,,,,,will end,, for change.

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Tue 03/02/10 11:52 PM


I'm not trying to say anything-I just ask a simple question!- But a perverse generation wants a sign-My dear friends what happened in 1948? What you should be asking yourself is how long a generation is? Some of us do not think things all the way through. Back in Noe's day, a generation was 100's of years- but what about now? Well here is another one of thoughts for you to twist around-huh?



everything must come to an end. even this way of 'life' we have come to learn as inevitable and unchanging,,,,,will end,, for change.
I beg to differ here,,Christ has no end!noway :wink:

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/03/10 12:03 AM



I'm not trying to say anything-I just ask a simple question!- But a perverse generation wants a sign-My dear friends what happened in 1948? What you should be asking yourself is how long a generation is? Some of us do not think things all the way through. Back in Noe's day, a generation was 100's of years- but what about now? Well here is another one of thoughts for you to twist around-huh?



everything must come to an end. even this way of 'life' we have come to learn as inevitable and unchanging,,,,,will end,, for change.
I beg to differ here,,Christ has no end!noway :wink:


I agree, although He is first and last, he doesnt end. All worldly things will end though.

lonelybob1959's photo
Wed 03/03/10 12:09 AM
I think he does- but only the father knows this. the end of humanity will be the end of christ- he was born for sinners right? goes back to my osigial question: how near is the end of time?

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Wed 03/03/10 01:06 AM
Yes, we maybe living in the end times, or season of change.

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Sun 03/07/10 04:12 PM
Whaaaaaaaaaaa ... ? EVERY generation thinks it's in the 'end times' ... now the 'popular' sign is 2012 and the end of the Mayan calendar ... folks, all the end of that calendar means is that they ran out of rock ... ! You're still gonna have to go to work again come Dec. 22, 2012 - well, unless you've already quit your job, sold your possessions, and driven to the middle of some desert to await 'the end' ... ain't gonna happen ... If y' need a 'reminder', here it is: The end of the world is ALWAYS an INDIVIDUAL experience.

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Sun 03/07/10 08:47 PM
yes the end of times is coming. But no one knows when it will happen. I don't care about what the myan calender says or anything of such. Christ said he will come like a theif in the night. No one knows when Christ will return.

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Mon 03/08/10 05:01 AM
yes , every generation of the past- has proclaimed the end of time, but in 1948 Israel became a nation again- it is bible prophecy when Israel becomes a nation again, we are in the last generation- period. I ask you : How long will it be before this generation will end? By the way- this rapture doctrine bothers me- the bible says ashes to ashes & dust to dust= I'm sure people who have done passed on- will not rise out of the grave. I think the ones who have passed on- there soul or being is already with the lord-I had an acquaintance one time- he was so excited, he told me, he said: I gave my soul to the lord yesterday at chuch- not wanting to burst his bubble-I thought to myself- not opening my mouth your soul already belongs to the lord- all you can do is except salvation & quit sinning, and show love, even to whomever you hate. How about you- what do you think? I should have said something! By the way- two reverends back in the early 1800's cooked up this rapture theory when a woman namd Margret MacDonald had a fever of some sort and also had a vision of this rapture. The dear reverends kept her dream or vision alive until it caught on, so people would be dependant on them,so they could profit off this dependance - its still alive today- people are teaching this deception today-god have mercy on us all- thats my true prayer! This generation will fall for and believe anything- especially if someone's idol is promoting it- blind leading the blind! I just wonder how many have & how many will go to their graves believing this rapture garbage- research it for yourself- don't take my word for it! Just my thoughts this morning- have a nice day- if this offends you- pray for me- cause if I was aware that it offended you I'd pray for you- Amen & Amen I do not reference bible verses- look it up for your self- I believe what I believe- my opinions are mine - each has a right to his own.

msharmony's photo
Mon 03/08/10 06:11 AM
[Mat 25:1] Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
[Mat 25:2] And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
[Mat 25:3] They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
[Mat 25:4] But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
[Mat 25:5] While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
[Mat 25:6] And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
[Mat 25:7] Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
[Mat 25:8] And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
[Mat 25:9] But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
[Mat 25:10] And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
[Mat 25:11] Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
[Mat 25:12] But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
[Mat 25:13] Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.



MiddleEarthling's photo
Mon 03/08/10 05:24 PM
Edited by MiddleEarthling on Mon 03/08/10 05:26 PM


Many thought is was Dec 31st 1999 because it was the end of 2000 years...uh,....but since the "AD" thing was started at year 1 it would have actually been Dec 31st 2000...laugh

I guess people who believe in this EOT crapola can't master math (as well as reality)...figures.

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Mon 03/08/10 09:19 PM



Many thought is was Dec 31st 1999 because it was the end of 2000 years...uh,....but since the "AD" thing was started at year 1 it would have actually been Dec 31st 2000...laugh

I guess people who believe in this EOT crapola can't master math (as well as reality)...figures.


I remember the Y2K scare very distinctly. On 12/31/1999, I was at "New Year's Evil"-the Black Sabbath reunion concert. It wasn't the end of the world for sure, but it was damn loud! :banana: laugh

DrRob's photo
Mon 03/08/10 10:20 PM
im almost convinced as well...
not only from the constant disasters happening..
everywhere..thare are places in the usa alone that are still disaster areas

altho an earthquake that changes time is ummm..yeah.
slaphead heres your signoops

but also because it does seem like Society has become much like sodom and gommora..

there..i said it...

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Mon 03/08/10 11:38 PM

I think he does- but only the father knows this. the end of humanity will be the end of christ- he was born for sinners right? goes back to my osigial question: how near is the end of time?
OK,,
WE evolved from the END OF TIME,,WE NOW LIVE only in footsteps of our past generations steps as we fall back yet forward to where we were and are.
Mother Earth will REMAIN even after all of what once was living now be dead.

PEOPLE have a WAY of making DEATH HAPPEN!
And it shall come to be, and we shall mostly all die.
But the few to with stand the deaths of milions upon milions
will live on to BE...we all have about twenty years more give or take 5,,,,,,,,,my bags stay packed!!!!!:wink: drinker

lonelybob1959's photo
Mon 03/08/10 11:56 PM
To me it doesn't matter when the end is! I just try to filter the truth out of this religious garbage - most of it comes from mankind, some is easy to see the scam in- some not so easy - don't ever give-up- if you seek the lord he will help you - i'm affraid to quote scripture for some one else - read it for your self - this where the truth is - I use KJV 1611 & STRONG'S CONCORDANCE,I'M NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH TO STUDY HEBREW & GREEK TEXTS- I believe the lord will show you what you need to know - if you seek & except his salvation! Each individuals relationship with the lord is what matters - me, I have to repent everyday - I am proof of a miracle that happens - the amazing thing is I avoid the bad things each day - unscaved. p.s. "Once saved-always saved" baa-lony- I believe this is a lie to!

Milesoftheusa's photo
Tue 03/09/10 01:03 AM

To me it doesn't matter when the end is! I just try to filter the truth out of this religious garbage - most of it comes from mankind, some is easy to see the scam in- some not so easy - don't ever give-up- if you seek the lord he will help you - i'm affraid to quote scripture for some one else - read it for your self - this where the truth is - I use KJV 1611 & STRONG'S CONCORDANCE,I'M NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH TO STUDY HEBREW & GREEK TEXTS- I believe the lord will show you what you need to know - if you seek & except his salvation! Each individuals relationship with the lord is what matters - me, I have to repent everyday - I am proof of a miracle that happens - the amazing thing is I avoid the bad things each day - unscaved. p.s. "Once saved-always saved" baa-lony- I believe this is a lie to!



shalom.

You said alot of true things. Moses does not say in the Torah how long a generation is. He did apperently write a Psalm Ps 90 that tells us how long a generation is but does not pinpoint it but gives a 10 year leway.


Most definately once saved always saved is a farse. As is Just believe the Apostles and Especially James made this very clear.

We have to realize that the explosion knowledge that Daniel predicted has happened. That we have far greater capabillities to find what was taken out changed and added to the scriptures. The KJV has many problems with changing and addinng to the scriptures that you will not find before the English version.

Case in Fact Easter. Is translated from Pasha which is Passover. The same word for passover translated I believe 27 times as Passover was translated 1 time as Easter and tthis 1st appeared in the KJV bible of 1692. Also if you read Hebrews 4:8 and think about what it is saying you will see something is very wrong.

I see you really like to study as many people don't even know what a strongs concordance is. One that I find very helpfull is the Englishmans Concordance.

The strongs is set up to where when u look up a english word from the scriptures it will give you a definition and the Hebrew word and where you can find the English word is in the scriptures.

The Englishmans Concordance is more helpful in studing IMO. using both together is best. The Englishmans will take from the English word to the Hebrew or greek word and then show you every instance how that Hebrew or Greek word is Translated. Thats how i know about how Easter was translated from the list it gives from the Greek word Pasha.

many things can be found you would not believe the liberties someone has taken. A good study is the OT word Rib which in Hebrew is Tesla. Look and see what Tesla mmeans and all the places it was translated to and how and many scriptures recorded that seem strange in the NT that Yahshua said take on a very new meaning and make alot of since.. May Yahweh of Host Bless your Understanding and Increase the Knowledge of His People.... Shalom...Miles


markumX's photo
Tue 03/09/10 02:04 AM
israel was never a nation however palestine was. the only reason israel became a nation wasn't an act of God but the british and america doing what they do best. i'm not denying jews should have their own land but anyone with a rational brain can agree they don't need e. jerusalem or all of jerusalem as far as i'm concerned nor the west bank..80 percent of israelis aren't semetic, they came from eastern europe and a vasst majority are athiest...so someone explain to me this God giving right for a polish soldier who don't believe in God has the right to come shoot my parents and take my home and for me to be ok with it.
as for the topic, i recall in either mathew or john jesus telling them the end times was upon them then turn around and tell another and say well i dont know only God knows.

Teditis's photo
Tue 03/09/10 01:24 PM

[Mat 25:1] Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
[Mat 25:2] And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
[Mat 25:3] They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
[Mat 25:4] But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
[Mat 25:5] While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
[Mat 25:6] And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
[Mat 25:7] Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
[Mat 25:8] And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
[Mat 25:9] But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
[Mat 25:10] And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
[Mat 25:11] Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
[Mat 25:12] But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
[Mat 25:13] Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.




Awesome interjection of what's relevent in regard to discussions about "end-time" theology.
What's important is "what are you doing with you time today?" All the rest of the philosophical discussions are, most often, based on speculation/interpretation of what did He really mean with all that talk about escalating calamities. Doesn't really matter to ppl who don't know Christ or even care to try. And why should they care to try if we keep positing scenarios where they go to Hell?
A suggestion:
Deal with the ppl in front of you, right now: your friends, family and even the folks on this site. Represent God in a genuine spirit of Love and acceptence... point them to the Bible for further information AND keep your opinions to yourself... or at least closely guarded for your close friends and loved ones.

MiddleEarthling's photo
Tue 03/09/10 05:07 PM




Many thought is was Dec 31st 1999 because it was the end of 2000 years...uh,....but since the "AD" thing was started at year 1 it would have actually been Dec 31st 2000...laugh

I guess people who believe in this EOT crapola can't master math (as well as reality)...figures.


I remember the Y2K scare very distinctly. On 12/31/1999, I was at "New Year's Evil"-the Black Sabbath reunion concert. It wasn't the end of the world for sure, but it was damn loud! :banana: laugh


Yeah, Godsmack opened for them in Memphis on that tour...that show rocked and was a reunion for the others among us who saw Van Halen open for Sabbath in Memphis in 1977...

~~~

I do wonder how many "followers" of these insane predictions ran up their credit and spent like drunken sailors...pfft.

Dragoness's photo
Tue 03/09/10 05:12 PM
I could be wrong as we all can be but end times like from any prophecy, no it is not.