it's called protecting our Liberty from more government control...

If people would have viewed the Summit, they would have heard some of the Republicans' Plan..............NOT our fault the damocrats hid behind locked doors...........funny, obama read the Republicans' plan, he admitted so, again, if the Summit were viewed by individuals asking where the Republican Plan is, they would have known about the Republican Plan, just like obama knew about it and knew what the Republicans have to offer......

Hmmmmmmmmm I wonder why so many people did not watch the 'dog and pony' show......

True, our founding Fathers set up the Constitution to prevent the government from taking over.......

You have to do more than just read the Constitution, you have to go back to the beginning and study the history of what was taking place and why the decisions were made which constitute our Constitution.

Our founding Fathers wanted to prevent another King from taking over the country, that is why they left England! The main reason for the second amendment concerning right to bear arms.......

Those very reasons and values that instilled and created our Constitution STILL STAND TRUE TODAY......

IF obama had his way we would be headed towards socialism and marxism......look at his past and the people he associated with and even appointed to his cabinet and his czars........obama has had so many of his appointees resign because their past was revealed and there was public outcry over his appointees....

One would think that obama would be smart enough to realize that the past would be revealed.....why he thought the citizens of the USA would just let him do as he pleased and not do any vetting of their own is totally beyond my comprehension.....

obama's arrogance is going to turn around and kick him you know where, and it already has begun to....only he is so arrogant that he refuses to even care what the citizens of the USA want......

And YES, the fool does think he knows what is best for us.....and that we do not know what is best for us..........such stupidity will eventually lead to his downfall...........the SOONER THE BETTER for the people of the USA!

I would submit the reality that MOST americans dont understand the political process nor the roles of government. Just like I wouldnt expect to tell a doctor what to do for me, I can only tell him what is wrong and he must decide based upon his experience and knowledge how to help me with it.

As a constitutional lawyer, I am sure he has a bit better idea of what things are politically viable than the average jill and joe does.

The president isnt merely a spokesmodel for the opinions of Americans, he also is expected to have a BIT more knowledge about government policy and process which means that after he hears our concerns, yes, he needs to make decisions about what should be done for those concerns and I certainly PRAY that decision is based on what he thinks is best for US, himself and his loved ones included.

"The president isnt merely a spokesmodel for the opinions of Americans, he also is expected to have a BIT more knowledge about government policy and process which means that after he hears our concerns, yes, he needs to make decisions about what should be done for those concerns and I certainly PRAY that decision is based on what he thinks is best for US, himself and his loved ones included."

I am not gonna compare a constitutional lawyers qualifications for presidency to the knowledge of a legal secretary, because that was far from my point. My point was that the AVERAGE american doesnt politically understand what things can and cannot be done within the government anymore than the average medical patient knows how to heal thyself. So in the end, when decisions MUST be made(which is part of a presidents role),,then YES, I pray that president is making decision based upon what he thinks is BEST for the nation.

As far as the rest, its all perspective I guess. What you see as arrogance, I see as intelligence and confidence, I dont see this extreme repulsiveness by the majority of people, but expect it from some as its impossible to please every single one of the two hundred million plus adults in this or any other country. I could meet your legal secretary opinion of him being a bullshitter with opinions of LAWYERS who dont see him as one...thats all subjective.

In the end though, AFTER he is out of office, is the time when what he has or hasnt accomplished will become clear and I am sure (like any other president) there will be plenty of things on both lists for supporters and haters to cling to.

I'll let the Mobfather sum this arguement / debate up...like only he can...from yesterdays show...

"It really is time for Republicans to stand for the people who are paying for all of this, and that's us. Government is not supposed to be about redistribution and subsidies and payouts and bribes and kickbacks to union people. It is supposed to be about promoting a healthy society and freedom for the individual within an ordered system called the Constitution."

it's called protecting our Liberty from more government control...

last time I looked...he was in the Senate voting for every piece of spending legislation...inherited this mess ?...he helped create it !!...when Bush left office...the budget deficit his last year was $454 billion...and...unemployment stood at 6%...now...$1.4 trillion and 10%...Obama has been a fuggin disaster...and...ALL the polls show this...my copy and paste friend...

Obama's a good guy and a great public speaker, but he does not seem to have the political power to get things moving in the right direction.
The Republican conservatives are just playing political games while the country goes into the toilet. The conservatives need to get their collective heads out of their butts before there is rioting in the streets.

Good point.

republicans are cowards . and thats on a good day . I don't always support all things the demos come up with actually not many things but at least when they post here they don't exclude most of the country . and I have heard republicans saying we should refuse to allow people to vote . all the repub's want is to pig out on the country's purse .

So what are your results? No results? Really? So what are you boasting about? Really?

"The president isnt merely a spokesmodel for the opinions of Americans, he also is expected to have a BIT more knowledge about government policy and process which means that after he hears our concerns, yes, he needs to make decisions about what should be done for those concerns and I certainly PRAY that decision is based on what he thinks is best for US, himself and his loved ones included."

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Well....pray tell, please advise where you get your statistics to prove and substantiate your personal statement and opinion that MOST Americans do not understand the political process nor the roles of the government? If you made yourself open and willing to seek out the information provided via news media - which reports on the people all over the USA, not just one local community....I am confident, based on how you express yourself, you would be totally shocked as to just HOW MUCH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO, AND I MEAN DO, UNDERSTAND......I, personally, do not feel you have the expertise, qualifications or right to demean the American people by stating, without fact, what they know or do not know, understand or do not understand....anything....

Unless you are privy to lawyers whom, as you claim, do not view obama as a B.S.er, your statement about this issue is null and void.....it appears to me that you have a tendency to form opinions based on your own self-imposed opinion and desire for facts to be the way you desire them to be, as opposed to the literal fact and truth. obama has reneged on so many issues that he campaigned on, transparency, for one MAJOR issue, thus lending him to be one who cannot be trusted, he is not a man of his word, thus.......the adjective of B.S.er comes into play.....double talk, whatever adjective one chooses to use to describe obama's most negative trait.


If you do not see the repulsiveness, then again, I must draw to a conclusion that you do not keep apprised, via any news media, as to how the American people truly feel........

I do not see why you refer to the word 'haters', perhaps that is in your attitude towards those of whom you have opposite opinions, but myself, and the people I associate with and listen to across the USA via various news media, the word 'hate' is not in their or my vocabulary concerning difference of opinion and agenda ...... dislike, disapproval, dismay, but NOT, unlike you, the word hate.......

It is a lack of intellect, common sense, and maturity to want to wait until obama is out of office to see what obama has, has not and will not accomplished. It is laid right before our very eyes........this very minute.....for all to see.......putting off accomplishes nothing......he must be judged and opinions formed on his attributes and contributions and accomplishments NOW, every day that he is in office......NOT LET IT GO TILL HE IS OUT.....and too late for the American people to do anything to counteract obamas grievous errors.......

Not to mention Obama's close ties to a very dangerous communist and domestic terrorist.

Sigh,,, well

1. Hater is a contemporary slang word for people who put down others,,, Is 'repulsive' also a slang word?

2. From website http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/10/pew_political_iq_poll_republic.asp

'You likely won't see this poll result elsewhere, so I thought I'd highlight it here. This is a Pew Political IQ test conducted over the phone with 1,002 adults from Oct. 1-4. They were asked 12 questions, and answered an average of 5.3 questions correctly, according to Pew.'

I am sure if you googled American Political IQ, you could find many more. The truth is not putting down, I didnt judge people for not knowing about politics, I just stated that on average americans are not well knowledgable about the processes and procedures. Just as geography is , on average, not a topic americans are widely educated about.

3. I can assure you I have no lack of intellect, common sense, or intelligence although I could have been more specific when stating that we should wait till OBamas completed presidency to decide what he has or hasnt accomplished. Of course, common sense dictates, that we can always decide what people have or have not accomplished up to the present time. My point was about what he achieves or does not achieve as PRESIDENT, not just his first year or two, but the whole time he is serving his role.

4.I actually AM privvy to lawyers who dont find OBama to be a bullshitter, but rather that has bearing on what you consider to be valid is another issue.

5. Literal fact and truth are quite different from personal opinion.

How Obamas (full) presidency impacts America is yet to be seen. I feel he is doing the best with what he has and will reserve further judgment until his job has run its course.

1. "Hater is a contemporary slang word for people who put down others,,, Is 'repulsive' also a slang word?" ............ If you do not know that get out a dictionary and look up the word repulsive.

Oh, Dear God, hater and repulsive are both adjectives ..... And again, the use of the word hate is totally out of order for describing people who merely dislike, disagree or feel dismay over another's opinions, agenda, policies.......


2. I, and I am confident that the rest of the population of the USA, could not possibly care less about your Pew poll. Whatever it is supposed to be. I do highly question the credibility of this "Pew" poll and "American Political IQ" As 1,002 adults is a far cry from a representation of the total population of the USA citizens. And, again, you go making a declaratory statement, this time declaring that Americans are not knowledgeable about geography....

3. It is of extreme importance that the American citizens make daily observations and decisions about obama and the current Administration's actions, accomplishments and/or lack thereof. To not do so is total negligence and a maintainment of a reckless attitude in keeping thoroughly apprised of what is and is not taking place in this administration's actions, agenda and policies. Our welfare and security of ourselves and future generations are at stake in this issue.

4. I do question if you actually do have privy to an adequate number of attorneys who do not consider obama a B.S.er...... as you made no reference to who these individuals are and/or where they are located and the type of law they practice, the courts they are licensed to practice law in and their political party and stand on relevant issues that are of the utmost concern of the American citizen. Thus, again, I state that after 22 years as a legal secretary experienced in local, state, Federal, appellate courts, and high contact and observance of attorneys practicing in said courts, I can rightfully state that obama is a B.S.er.....he says he will do one thing and turns around and does another [please refer to my statement about his so-called 'transparency' policy which never took place]....never intending on doing what he originally stated he would do.

5. How obama's agenda as acting [for lack of a better word] president can be seen EVERY day. No need to wait till he is out of office to see how he is IMPACTING the USA. The economy is spiraling downward rapidly, unemployment 10%, the USA has trillions of dollars in deficit, of which China owns the great majority of the USA debt, the people of the USA are screaming to STOP SPENDING OBAMA.......!! He has spent his entire first year in office on the health care issue..... NOTHING on the economy and unemployment, the job situation......and still has accomplished NOTHING........

So, he is doing the best he can with what he has? Whatever "what he has" means. If his best is running the economy and job situation to ruin.....I hardly consider that "the best"......
I AM SCARED TO DEATH TO SEE WHAT HIS 'FULL' TERM WILL BRING ABOUT.