Topic: America supporting terrorists-double standard
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Fri 02/26/10 11:30 PM
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2007/04/200852513129407794.html



The United States is supporting anti-Iranian groups operating out of Pakistan's remote border regions, the speaker of Iran's parliament has said.

Gholamali Haddadadel accused the US of trying to put pressure on the government in Tehran, but said Pakistan was not involved in the operations.
"There is no doubt in our minds that the United States spares no effort to put pressure on the Islamic Republic of Iran," he said.

The US television station ABC News reported on Tuesday that the US had been secretly advising and encouraging a Pakistani group that had carried out raids in Iran.
"The best indication of United States' support to a particular terrorist group is that one of the leaders of this terrorist group was given the opportunity to speak on VoA [Voice of America radio station] after committing the crime," Haddadadel said.

"There is no news, no evidence, and we don't have any reason to believe that the military establishment in Pakistan is also supporting such militant groups."

ABC News, citing US and Pakistani intelligence sources, said the raids had resulted in the deaths and capture of Iranian soldiers and officials.

The group, called Jundullah and made up of members of the Baluchi ethnic group, who live in Pakistan and Iran, operated from the Baluchistan province, the report said.

The group said it carried out an attack in February that killed at least 11 members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard on a bus in the Iranian city of Zehedan.

ABC reported Pakistani government sources as saying the secret campaign against Iran was on the agenda when Dick Cheney, the US vice president, met Pervez Musharraf, the Pakistani president, in February.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 02/26/10 11:34 PM
We supported bin laden, we supported saddam, we have supported terrorism in other countries, yes.

They served our purpose at the time.

Doesn't make it right at all.

s1owhand's photo
Sat 02/27/10 12:37 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Sat 02/27/10 12:38 AM
The actual policy of the U.S. has always been to confront terrorism.
In fact, the U.S. is actively trying to eliminate it.

Politicians and groups whose interests are aligned may
receive aid but if they were to engage in killing innocent women
and children then the support would be immediately withdrawn.

The lack of support for Iran because of their policies and
activities such as going after the perpetrators of attacks
such as 911 (Bin Laden) are just part of elimination of terrorists
and confronting state sponsors of terrorism.

It is the correct strategy to take aggressive steps abroad to
thwart those who plot to attack us here. It is the correct
position morally and ethically to combat anyone who engages in
bombing public buildings, buses, or who fires missiles
indiscriminately into civilian areas. I am proud that the U. S.
is a world leader in confronting and eliminating terrorism.

whoa

laugh

cashu's photo
Sat 02/27/10 04:27 PM
Edited by cashu on Sat 02/27/10 04:30 PM

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2007/04/200852513129407794.html



The United States is supporting anti-Iranian groups operating out of Pakistan's remote border regions, the speaker of Iran's parliament has said.

Gholamali Haddadadel accused the US of trying to put pressure on the government in Tehran, but said Pakistan was not involved in the operations.
"There is no doubt in our minds that the United States spares no effort to put pressure on the Islamic Republic of Iran," he said.

The US television station ABC News reported on Tuesday that the US had been secretly advising and encouraging a Pakistani group that had carried out raids in Iran.
"The best indication of United States' support to a particular terrorist group is that one of the leaders of this terrorist group was given the opportunity to speak on VoA [Voice of America radio station] after committing the crime," Haddadadel said.

"There is no news, no evidence, and we don't have any reason to believe that the military establishment in Pakistan is also supporting such militant groups."

ABC News, citing US and Pakistani intelligence sources, said the raids had resulted in the deaths and capture of Iranian soldiers and officials.

The group, called Jundullah and made up of members of the Baluchi ethnic group, who live in Pakistan and Iran, operated from the Baluchistan province, the report said.

The group said it carried out an attack in February that killed at least 11 members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard on a bus in the Iranian city of Zehedan.

ABC reported Pakistani government sources as saying the secret campaign against Iran was on the agenda when Dick Cheney, the US vice president, met Pervez Musharraf, the Pakistani president, in February.
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let me give you an english clue right now .. if there on our side they allies , patriots , heros , welcome imagrants friends .
now If they are not on our side there terriost , enemys , bastards scum of the earth , infadels , guys with small icks ect.. does that help ?

InvictusV's photo
Sat 02/27/10 05:25 PM
Edited by InvictusV on Sat 02/27/10 05:25 PM

We supported bin laden, we supported saddam, we have supported terrorism in other countries, yes.

They served our purpose at the time.

Doesn't make it right at all.


We bombed Serbia, at the behest of the Kosovo Liberation Army.. An Albanian/Muslim terrorist organization. Yes... Our support of Muslim terrorists is quite disturbing.

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Sat 02/27/10 05:42 PM


We supported bin laden, we supported saddam, we have supported terrorism in other countries, yes.

They served our purpose at the time.

Doesn't make it right at all.


We bombed Serbia, at the behest of the Kosovo Liberation Army.. An Albanian/Muslim terrorist organization. Yes... Our support of Muslim terrorists is quite disturbing.

Wonder why 98% of the time I hear or see the word terrorist, there's always a Muslim associated with it?

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Sat 02/27/10 06:17 PM
You are posting links from Al jazeera? :laughing: Al jazeera is nothing but a anti Israel,anti United states,pro terrorist origination pretending to be a news station.

no photo
Sat 02/27/10 08:45 PM
Can't wait til Iran develops it's first nuclear weapon, Israel will blast them off the map.

no photo
Thu 03/04/10 12:33 PM
Yes. The USA supports terrorists.

I mean, the USA never supports terrorists - if we are supporting them, we won't call them terrorists.

heavenlyboy34's photo
Thu 03/04/10 12:40 PM

Yes. The USA supports terrorists.

I mean, the USA never supports terrorists - if we are supporting them, we won't call them terrorists.


laugh

msharmony's photo
Thu 03/04/10 01:24 PM

Yes. The USA supports terrorists.

I mean, the USA never supports terrorists - if we are supporting them, we won't call them terrorists.



Exactly. One mans 'freedomfighter' is another mans 'terrorist'. I never understood the global mentality(not just America) that the enemy of our enemy is automatically our friend. What if that enemy of our enemy cant stand us either and what if our enemy has very VALID reason to be enemies with that friend,,,lol


It gets us into alot of hypocritical situations which I would think lessens the trust of nations around the world. If we are asked for help, mediation should be the first effort along with a SERIOUS attempt to understand the FULL history and not just take sides for some shallow loyalty when our friend might just well be in the wrong.

markumX's photo
Thu 03/04/10 03:24 PM

You are posting links from Al jazeera? :laughing: Al jazeera is nothing but a anti Israel,anti United states,pro terrorist origination pretending to be a news station.




and what are american news organizations Thomas? Al Jazeera reports more factually than anything that will come out of the west and i'm proud to read and support it.

markumX's photo
Thu 03/04/10 03:26 PM

Can't wait til Iran develops it's first nuclear weapon, Israel will blast them off the map.


we'll see. Israel just like america are cowards. they can never engage in anything militarily by itself against someone with an equal strength. Just like America, they like to only engage against people with no weapons.

cashu's photo
Thu 03/04/10 05:21 PM

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2007/04/200852513129407794.html



The United States is supporting anti-Iranian groups operating out of Pakistan's remote border regions, the speaker of Iran's parliament has said.

Gholamali Haddadadel accused the US of trying to put pressure on the government in Tehran, but said Pakistan was not involved in the operations.
"There is no doubt in our minds that the United States spares no effort to put pressure on the Islamic Republic of Iran," he said.

The US television station ABC News reported on Tuesday that the US had been secretly advising and encouraging a Pakistani group that had carried out raids in Iran.
"The best indication of United States' support to a particular terrorist group is that one of the leaders of this terrorist group was given the opportunity to speak on VoA [Voice of America radio station] after committing the crime," Haddadadel said.

"There is no news, no evidence, and we don't have any reason to believe that the military establishment in Pakistan is also supporting such militant groups."

ABC News, citing US and Pakistani intelligence sources, said the raids had resulted in the deaths and capture of Iranian soldiers and officials.

The group, called Jundullah and made up of members of the Baluchi ethnic group, who live in Pakistan and Iran, operated from the Baluchistan province, the report said.

The group said it carried out an attack in February that killed at least 11 members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard on a bus in the Iranian city of Zehedan.

ABC reported Pakistani government sources as saying the secret campaign against Iran was on the agenda when Dick Cheney, the US vice president, met Pervez Musharraf, the Pakistani president, in February.

we do not support terrious . we support the hero's of the world . the true god lovers the hero's of the weak and humble . we support the future gods of freedom . we support the pure over the truely evil people . the killers of freedom the murders of baby's the innocent ..WE SUPPORT THE FREEDOM LOVING PEOPLE OF THE EARTH WHERE EVER THEY ARE .

Dragoness's photo
Thu 03/04/10 05:26 PM

Yes. The USA supports terrorists.

I mean, the USA never supports terrorists - if we are supporting them, we won't call them terrorists.


:wink: laugh huh

Dragoness's photo
Thu 03/04/10 05:29 PM

The actual policy of the U.S. has always been to confront terrorism.
In fact, the U.S. is actively trying to eliminate it.

Politicians and groups whose interests are aligned may
receive aid but if they were to engage in killing innocent women
and children then the support would be immediately withdrawn.

The lack of support for Iran because of their policies and
activities such as going after the perpetrators of attacks
such as 911 (Bin Laden) are just part of elimination of terrorists
and confronting state sponsors of terrorism.

It is the correct strategy to take aggressive steps abroad to
thwart those who plot to attack us here. It is the correct
position morally and ethically to combat anyone who engages in
bombing public buildings, buses, or who fires missiles
indiscriminately into civilian areas. I am proud that the U. S.
is a world leader in confronting and eliminating terrorism.

whoa

laugh


But who was the first bully of all?

Terrorism being a type of warfare will never end as long as war exists so to even believe we fight a war on terror is to believe a fairy tale.

Terrorists are not in one nation, they are in every nation. So we cannot fight it in one or two countries. That is a ruse.

s1owhand's photo
Thu 03/04/10 07:48 PM


The actual policy of the U.S. has always been to confront terrorism.
In fact, the U.S. is actively trying to eliminate it.

Politicians and groups whose interests are aligned may
receive aid but if they were to engage in killing innocent women
and children then the support would be immediately withdrawn.

The lack of support for Iran because of their policies and
activities such as going after the perpetrators of attacks
such as 911 (Bin Laden) are just part of elimination of terrorists
and confronting state sponsors of terrorism.

It is the correct strategy to take aggressive steps abroad to
thwart those who plot to attack us here. It is the correct
position morally and ethically to combat anyone who engages in
bombing public buildings, buses, or who fires missiles
indiscriminately into civilian areas. I am proud that the U. S.
is a world leader in confronting and eliminating terrorism.

whoa

laugh


But who was the first bully of all?

Terrorism being a type of warfare will never end as long as war exists so to even believe we fight a war on terror is to believe a fairy tale.

Terrorists are not in one nation, they are in every nation. So we cannot fight it in one or two countries. That is a ruse.


It is not a matter of who is a bully. It is a matter of who kills
innocent civilians by targeting them explicitly. The USA does not
do this. Israel does not do this. Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah and Al-Aqsa
and Hamas do engage in this. Openly and without remorse but with
enthusiasm. Throwing candy. Exulting in civilians killed and wounded.

Terrorism is equivalent to war crimes. Attacking civilians with
missiles and bombs, bombing buses and cafes, these are not acts
that are tolerated even in warfare. They have been prohibited by
universal consensus and codified.

Terrorists are not to be tolerated in any civilized society. It is
not something to fight in one or two countries. It is something
which must be confronted everywhere it occurs.