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Topic: Lynyrd Skynyrd Sells Out
janeh's photo
Fri 02/19/10 07:56 AM
I never thought that they were against guns, just the stupidity of the reasons people use them. Where do you draw the line of who can have a gun, the police, military, hunters? They use guns in the Biathlon at the Olympics should that be banned also? To me a song is not an anthem for people to live by, just trying to give you something to think about.

Winx's photo
Fri 02/19/10 08:12 AM


I'm 50 yrs. old. I remember when Skynyrd and Charlie were hot on the charts. I grew up on them. I remember the atmosphere that surrounded their bands. I understand what MiddleEarthling is saying.


50 yrs old ?...well...you don't look a day over 49 !...:smile:


You don't look at day over 54.laugh Hi, Gio.flowerforyou

cashu's photo
Fri 02/19/10 04:14 PM

Interesting.

So...lemme get this straight.

They don't support Obama...so they are sell outs??

Brilliant deduction there, Sherlock.

Heaven forbid they get paid well for being who they are.

Oh wait. I forgot.

You libs don't want ANYONE getting paid for being good at what they do.

Guess what...Lynyrd Skynyrd has never been a " liberal " band.

They always believed in God, Guns and the U.S.A.

just because they don't agree with YOUR version of it, doesn't mean they sold out anything.

As someone else said, they are doing the shows to stand up for what they believe in.

They don't really need the money since their records STILL sell pretty well.
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any thing you like that the illiberals don't is racist and you must be a moron . so what new ? there on the verge of extinction ignor them and let them crawl of in the slim .. they have nothing to say .

Dict8's photo
Fri 02/19/10 04:17 PM
Worst live performance I ever saw...outside of 3 Dog Night in 2003...was Skynrd at a 9/11 benefit in Atlanta. It was horrid! :tongue:

RKISIT's photo
Fri 02/19/10 04:35 PM
I would say Ted Nugent really shocked me by how conservative republican he is...not a real big deal but to see him back in the day and he is a conservative its just weird. i guess he was just in it for the money

JustAGuy2112's photo
Fri 02/19/10 04:39 PM

I would say Ted Nugent really shocked me by how conservative republican he is...not a real big deal but to see him back in the day and he is a conservative its just weird. i guess he was just in it for the money


Heh. Ted actually goes BEYOND conservative into " WTF??? " territory at times....lmao

Every time the elections come around for Governor here in Michigan, his name is brought up as a possible candidate.

I tell ya what...there are enough people in this state who are completely disillusioned by the current condition of the state that, should he choose to run, he would probably stand a pretty good chance of winning.

Dict8's photo
Fri 02/19/10 04:43 PM
I apologize cuz' I haven't read this whole thread thoroughly. I do believe that "Saturday Night Special" was an anti-gun song...no? Now the "new" Skynrd is preaching guns. I dunno'. They are definitely NOT the same band. They also seem to have lost their sense of humor. Now they're over-bearingly political and no fun at all. They suck live now too. Did I mention that? :tongue:

MiddleEarthling's photo
Fri 02/19/10 04:46 PM
Edited by MiddleEarthling on Fri 02/19/10 04:48 PM


Interesting.

So...lemme get this straight.

They don't support Obama...so they are sell outs??

Brilliant deduction there, Sherlock.

Heaven forbid they get paid well for being who they are.

Oh wait. I forgot.

You libs don't want ANYONE getting paid for being good at what they do.

Guess what...Lynyrd Skynyrd has never been a " liberal " band.

They always believed in God, Guns and the U.S.A.

just because they don't agree with YOUR version of it, doesn't mean they sold out anything.

As someone else said, they are doing the shows to stand up for what they believe in.

They don't really need the money since their records STILL sell pretty well.
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
any thing you like that the illiberals don't is racist and you must be a moron . so what new ? there on the verge of extinction ignor them and let them crawl of in the slim .. they have nothing to say .


No, the band was basically neutral on religion...oh wtf, it's useless with ditto heads...let them lie, I know my music and I know that Ronnie would not have approved of a corporation taking overy their lyrics...

"the group settled on Leonard Skinnerd, a mocking tribute to a physical-education teacher at Robert E. Lee High School, Leonard Skinner, who was notorious for strictly enforcing the school's policy against boys having long hair"

No, Skynyrd were cool people not RW arseholes...they never sang about killing and denying people's rights....how dare you "portend"(a) to know this historic band and it's positive impact on people's lives...it's a HUGE disappointment to me and many others.

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Bet this new pseudo Skynyrd doesn't play this song(b) at the Manatee's Freedom show...but that's weird as well...who's not for freedom? It's just all hyped paranoia for political gain...pretty simple really: the people who vote red or T-bag sweaty balls(d) are now for corporate freedoms(c)...yet complain about the bailouts given to the corporations...so then they join them? Really, REALLY?

"God and guns"...yeah that's worked real well for humanity...

(a)http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/portend
(b)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc3LphELwQI
(c*)http://www.essential.org/features/corporatesocialism.html
(d)http://www.kissmywhitehairyass.com/

*and this was 2002...so look when it started and look where it is now.







LewisW123's photo
Fri 02/19/10 04:47 PM
I have always said, celebrities and performers should just stay out of politics.

It alienates half their audience.

Even that brain-dead Ozzy is smart enough to know that.

no photo
Sun 02/21/10 09:43 AM
i agree that "free bird" is the greatest rock song of all time---and that says a lot, for all the other great songs it edges out. this song has everything and goes everywhere musically----and takes the listener right along with it.

i saw skynyrd live last august and they haven't lost a thing performance-wise, IMO.


i agree that bands should stay out of politics. it's very true that when they take sides politically, they alienate a substantial portion of their fan base.






MiddleEarthling's photo
Sun 02/21/10 09:56 AM

i agree that "free bird" is the greatest rock song of all time---and that says a lot, for all the other great songs it edges out. this song has everything and goes everywhere musically----and takes the listener right along with it.

i saw skynyrd live last august and they haven't lost a thing performance-wise, IMO.


i agree that bands should stay out of politics. it's very true that when they take sides politically, they alienate a substantial portion of their fan base.




Oh, I think politics and music fits since many writers are just expressing the times but this band who has only one original member has backpeddled and tarnished their history. But not Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Don Henley, John Prine...etc etc etc...all voices for rational people against irrational mobs like the THM's last year.

I agree they are still good live, we had a great time at the October show in Red Rock, OK...but with only one original member it's more of a tribute band and now a shill band for the T-baggers and FOCKS "news" viewer types, and corporate socialists....you know, the angry mob folks. Hannity is a racists prick and to be associated with him is an insult to true Skynyrd fans....Johnny and Gary...WHAT were you thinking???










MiddleEarthling's photo
Sun 02/21/10 09:57 AM
Edited by MiddleEarthling on Sun 02/21/10 09:57 AM


i agree that "free bird" is the greatest rock song of all time---and that says a lot, for all the other great songs it edges out. this song has everything and goes everywhere musically----and takes the listener right along with it.

i saw skynyrd live last august and they haven't lost a thing performance-wise, IMO.


i agree that bands should stay out of politics. it's very true that when they take sides politically, they alienate a substantial portion of their fan base.




Oh, I think politics and music fits since many writers are just expressing the times but this band who has only one original member has backpeddled and tarnished their history. But not Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Don Henley, John Prine...etc etc etc...all voices for rational people against irrational mobs like the THM's last year displayed.

I agree they are still good live, we had a great time at the October show in Red Rock, OK...but with only one original member it's more of a tribute band and now a shill band for the T-baggers and FOCKS "news" viewer types, and corporate socialists....you know, the angry mob folks. Hannity is a racists prick and to be associated with him is an insult to true Skynyrd fans....Johnny and Gary...WHAT were you thinking???











JustAGuy2112's photo
Sun 02/21/10 06:13 PM
Oh, I think politics and music fits since many writers are just expressing the times but this band who has only one original member has backpeddled and tarnished their history. But not Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Don Henley, John Prine...etc etc etc...all voices for rational people against irrational mobs like the THM's last year.

I agree they are still good live, we had a great time at the October show in Red Rock, OK...but with only one original member it's more of a tribute band and now a shill band for the T-baggers and FOCKS "news" viewer types, and corporate socialists....you know, the angry mob folks. Hannity is a racists prick and to be associated with him is an insult to true Skynyrd fans....Johnny and Gary...WHAT were you thinking???


Oh, I see now.

It's perfectly ok for Dylan and Neil Young and those others to stand up for what THEY believe in because they are Liberals.

But when a Conservative group ( which Skynryd now seems to qualify as ) does it...they are nothing but sellouts.

Ya know...it's truly sad that you can't see the level of hypocrisy that is seen in almost every single post you make.

MiddleEarthling's photo
Sun 02/21/10 06:38 PM

Oh, I think politics and music fits since many writers are just expressing the times but this band who has only one original member has backpeddled and tarnished their history. But not Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Don Henley, John Prine...etc etc etc...all voices for rational people against irrational mobs like the THM's last year.

I agree they are still good live, we had a great time at the October show in Red Rock, OK...but with only one original member it's more of a tribute band and now a shill band for the T-baggers and FOCKS "news" viewer types, and corporate socialists....you know, the angry mob folks. Hannity is a racists prick and to be associated with him is an insult to true Skynyrd fans....Johnny and Gary...WHAT were you thinking???


Oh, I see now.

It's perfectly ok for Dylan and Neil Young and those others to stand up for what THEY believe in because they are Liberals.

But when a Conservative group ( which Skynryd now seems to qualify as ) does it...they are nothing but sellouts.

Ya know...it's truly sad that you can't see the level of hypocrisy that is seen in almost every single post you make.


Ridiculous, Dylan et.al. have all stuck to their politics and please show me where any one of them sold out to corporate America like Lynyrd Skynyrd did....or better yet a simple explaination as to where I was even remotely hypocritical.

~~~

(Ronnie wrote:)

"Have you ever lived down in the ghetto?
Have you ever felt the cold wind blow?
If you don't know what I mean,
Won't you stand up and scream?
'Cause there's things goin' on that you don't know.

Too many lives they've spent across the ocean.
Too much money been spent upon the moon.
Well, until they make it right
I hope they never sleep at night
They better make some changes
And do it soon.

They're goin ruin the air we breathe
Lord have mercy.
They're gonna ruin us all, by and by.
I'm telling you all beware
I don't think they really care
I think they just sit up there
And just get high."

From "Things Going On"







TJN's photo
Sun 02/21/10 07:03 PM
Freedom Concerts
Since 2003, Hannity has hosted country music-themed "Freedom Concerts" billed to help benefit the Freedom Alliance Scholarship Fund, a charity created by Oliver North to provide college scholarships to children with a parent severely disabled or killed in military action.[31] As of 2009, more than $9 million has been raised by the concerts. Artists such as Charlie Daniels, Billy Ray Cyrus, Hank Williams Jr., Ted Nugent, Montgomery Gentry, Martina McBride, Buddy Jewell, LeAnn Rimes, Lee Greenwood, Michael W. Smith, and Avalon have headlined at Hannity's concerts. Between musical sets, the concerts include short intermissions with politically conservative speakers such as Oliver North, G. Gordon Liddy, Mark Levin, Newt Gingrich, Jon Voight, and Rudy Giuliani. Headlining names for the 2010 concert series are Lynyrd Skynyrd, Charlie Daniels, and Michael W. Smith.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Hannity

Maybe you should do some research on what the Freedom Concerts are for, before you call someone a sellout!
If you ask me it's very generous what they are doing.

http://www.freedomalliance.org/

JustAGuy2112's photo
Sun 02/21/10 07:18 PM


Oh, I think politics and music fits since many writers are just expressing the times but this band who has only one original member has backpeddled and tarnished their history. But not Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Don Henley, John Prine...etc etc etc...all voices for rational people against irrational mobs like the THM's last year.

I agree they are still good live, we had a great time at the October show in Red Rock, OK...but with only one original member it's more of a tribute band and now a shill band for the T-baggers and FOCKS "news" viewer types, and corporate socialists....you know, the angry mob folks. Hannity is a racists prick and to be associated with him is an insult to true Skynyrd fans....Johnny and Gary...WHAT were you thinking???


Oh, I see now.

It's perfectly ok for Dylan and Neil Young and those others to stand up for what THEY believe in because they are Liberals.

But when a Conservative group ( which Skynryd now seems to qualify as ) does it...they are nothing but sellouts.

Ya know...it's truly sad that you can't see the level of hypocrisy that is seen in almost every single post you make.


Ridiculous, Dylan et.al. have all stuck to their politics and please show me where any one of them sold out to corporate America like Lynyrd Skynyrd did....or better yet a simple explaination as to where I was even remotely hypocritical.

~~~

(Ronnie wrote:)

"Have you ever lived down in the ghetto?
Have you ever felt the cold wind blow?
If you don't know what I mean,
Won't you stand up and scream?
'Cause there's things goin' on that you don't know.

Too many lives they've spent across the ocean.
Too much money been spent upon the moon.
Well, until they make it right
I hope they never sleep at night
They better make some changes
And do it soon.

They're goin ruin the air we breathe
Lord have mercy.
They're gonna ruin us all, by and by.
I'm telling you all beware
I don't think they really care
I think they just sit up there
And just get high."

From "Things Going On"



Wow. Yer serving me up a softball like that..

Ok..HERE'S where your hypocrisy lies.

The fact is..RONNIE IS DEAD!!! Has been for YEARS!!!

There are, what?? Two surviving members of the original band??

The POINT is ( and try to keep up with me here ) that the people IN THE BAND NOW have decided to stand up for THEIR values. Not Rossington's, not Ronnie's, not anyone else', THEIRS.

They are Conservatives.

The fact that you deride them for doing something that steps forward and takes a stand for what THEY believe in, while excusing the likes of Neil Young ( Who...by the way..Ronnie was not fond of AT ALL ) and Bob Dylan, who are both pretty much irrelevant as far as music goes ( while Skynyrd remains one of the most popular bands in the country, if not the world ) is utter and complete hypocrisy.

You don't like what they now stand for...fine. That's your choice.

But basing what they do now on the views of the founding members, who are now DEAD, is silly.


MiddleEarthling's photo
Sun 02/21/10 07:25 PM

Freedom Concerts
Since 2003, Hannity has hosted country music-themed "Freedom Concerts" billed to help benefit the Freedom Alliance Scholarship Fund, a charity created by Oliver North to provide college scholarships to children with a parent severely disabled or killed in military action.[31] As of 2009, more than $9 million has been raised by the concerts. Artists such as Charlie Daniels, Billy Ray Cyrus, Hank Williams Jr., Ted Nugent, Montgomery Gentry, Martina McBride, Buddy Jewell, LeAnn Rimes, Lee Greenwood, Michael W. Smith, and Avalon have headlined at Hannity's concerts. Between musical sets, the concerts include short intermissions with politically conservative speakers such as Oliver North, G. Gordon Liddy, Mark Levin, Newt Gingrich, Jon Voight, and Rudy Giuliani. Headlining names for the 2010 concert series are Lynyrd Skynyrd, Charlie Daniels, and Michael W. Smith.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Hannity

Maybe you should do some research on what the Freedom Concerts are for, before you call someone a sellout!
If you ask me it's very generous what they are doing.

http://www.freedomalliance.org/



"Oliver North, G. Gordon Liddy"...a traitor and a criminal will be there? NICE! What a line up...and the other performers are a Christian Rock band from Alaska...maybe yall can get Palin to strip at it then it'd be complete.

I saw the benefit part and gave the link...sure they will raise money but they are mainly out there FOR politics...and in the GOP/T-bag group that is about COPORATE interests...nice try at spinning the issue here but it's really about Skynyrd's selling out to them.

If anything the sneaky commie's probably thought up the "fund raising" to cloud/disguise their real intent...corporate interests and political positioning. Karl Rove probably thought that one up...that guy's been hiding yet still pulling the strings.

~~~

No, I am most upset at the God and Guns recording and that LS is hanging around racist pricks like Sean Hannity and anything FALSE NEWS...that ain't my Skynyrd and they're no longer a representive of the "common man". This tour will sell a lot of CDs..is THAT money going to charity? Really?



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