It actually MIGHT have, in the relatively near future, BECOME optional if Obama hadn't decided to completely kill NASA's manned space flight program.

Gotta have more money for the banks....and Government Motors still isn't profitable. Don't forget all the handouts to the pathetic masses who NEED our Government to give them stuff they haven't worked to earn.

Well since it isn't just liberal who say this, I had to state the truth.

There are conservatives who know we are poisoning ourselves to death and are probably profiting off it somehow. Don't play me for a fool, I am not conservative.

I don't have to play you for a fool. You do well enough on your own.

Granted, there may be conservatives out there who say we are poisoning the planet....but THEY aren't the ones that think taxing businesses and the population in general is a good idea.

Considering that every living thing expels waste and we are the worst of all living things in that department there is no way in hell that we are no affecting our environment for the worst.

How long it will take to do ourselves in is anyones guess but it will happen. Why not try to stop it from happening as fast if we know that we are wasteful poisoning creatures like we know we are.

So... basically all human beings are bad and harmful no matter what? I won't degrade myself by joining the insult line... but your view doesn't have a scientific basis behind it. Everything living in the world creates a waste product, yes. However, for every waste product that one living thing creates, another thrives on it. In that way things are restored to their original form, minus some extracted energy. And the sun is like a big energy pump, putting more energy in.

Therefore do I refute your argument of us doing the planet/ourselves in. I'm not saying that conservation is bad... waste not want not after all. However, I would rather debate a scientific view of this, rather than name calling each other and/or the human species and/or everything that is alive. So why don't we all drop the liberal/conservative biased comments and actually bring facts to the table?

So... basically all human beings are bad and harmful no matter what? I won't degrade myself by joining the insult line... but your view doesn't have a scientific basis behind it. Everything living in the world creates a waste product, yes. However, for every waste product that one living thing creates, another thrives on it. In that way things are restored to their original form, minus some extracted energy. And the sun is like a big energy pump, putting more energy in.

Therefore do I refute your argument of us doing the planet/ourselves in. I'm not saying that conservation is bad... waste not want not after all. However, I would rather debate a scientific view of this, rather than name calling each other and/or the human species and/or everything that is alive. So why don't we all drop the liberal/conservative biased comments and actually bring facts to the table?

What is wrong with trying to keep the planet we need to survive clean and healthy?

I just cannot figure that out.

It is not even optional that we HAVE TO HAVE THIS PLANET TO SURVIVE so what is the problem with doing what we can to keep it healthy?

It just seems so stupid to fight against keeping the planet healthy!!!!

Facts are that for living organisms we put out more waste than our environmnent can recycle.

There is no way around it.

So me saying that we are wasteful creatures is considered an insult by you, that is your issue. It is the truth regardless.

another thing i really don't see anything wrong with being enviromentally safe but don't use scare tatics,really if our ozone layer goes and we fry well then so be it,this planet will look like mars or become venus it shouldn't shock us just look at the other 7 planets

Eh, the ozone layer is, according to the latest research, as it was tens of thousands of years ago. The other planets are as they are due more to their relative position to the sun (and likely basic composition as a result) than anything else.

oh nevermind just before the earth ends liberals will blame the republicans and the republicans will say its the work of God

Considering that every living thing expels waste and we are the worst of all living things in that department there is no way in hell that we are not affecting our environment for the worst.

How long it will take to do ourselves in is anyones guess but it will happen. Why not try to stop it from happening as fast if we know that we are wasteful poisoning creatures like we know we are.

What kind of odds you want the libs blame Bush for the Apocalypse?

Some need to lay off the whitewash koolaid, for real!!!!

What kind of odds you want the libs blame Bush for the Apocalypse?

No evidence presented, taken as opinion only. After all, I did not contend that it was insulting, but that other living creatures recycle the waste products made by living creatures. Please do not define emotions I do not feel for me. I asked the question at the start last time in an effort to see if that was your stance.