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Topic: Lawyers...
TheShadow's photo
Sun 02/14/10 07:46 AM
I know a few of you don't know me, but any input would be appreciated.

This week i'm going to try to set up the hearing me and my ex have to do to try to come up with an agreement as far as custody goes for our son. Now I been to a couple hearings and the first one my lawyer asked for an extention and he was not there. The second hearing, was a protective order I filed on my ex. My lawyer was not there.


I know some of you might say get a new lawyer, but money is tight for me. At the point after this hearin if we can't come up with an agreement. It goes to trial.


So what would you do being in my situation?

oldsage's photo
Sun 02/14/10 07:52 AM
Shakespear said it first, in one of his plays:
"First thing we do is KILL ALL the attorneys"

On the subject of your son, YOU BOTH should put your personal agenda's aside & think of what is best for the child.

Your attorney isn't showing up for hearings, request yor money back & report him to the "Bar association" formally.

He is responsible for his sirvice/actions.


no photo
Sun 02/14/10 07:52 AM
some people represent themselves... in my state there are websites you can go to for forms and information...

oldsage's photo
Sun 02/14/10 07:55 AM
A person that represents themself has a fool for an attorney.

Just get what you paid for.

TheShadow's photo
Sun 02/14/10 08:04 AM

Shakespear said it first, in one of his plays:
"First thing we do is KILL ALL the attorneys"

On the subject of your son, YOU BOTH should put your personal agenda's aside & think of what is best for the child.

Your attorney isn't showing up for hearings, request yor money back & report him to the "Bar association" formally.

He is responsible for his sirvice/actions.




I was told by a friend to do the same thing. Report him, and from what I understand. No matter what kind of hearing it is. That he is supose to be there repersenting me or not.

no photo
Sun 02/14/10 08:05 AM
whoa I have this vision of C.Eastwood blowing away the curling tendrils of smoke from the barrel of his pistola.Then he looks over at this old-timer & says you'll be needing to make another coffin for that two bit lawyer over there.:laughing:

Ruth34611's photo
Sun 02/14/10 08:07 AM
Yes, report him to the State Bar Association.

oldsage's photo
Sun 02/14/10 08:08 AM


Shakespear said it first, in one of his plays:
"First thing we do is KILL ALL the attorneys"

On the subject of your son, YOU BOTH should put your personal agenda's aside & think of what is best for the child.

Your attorney isn't showing up for hearings, request yor money back & report him to the "Bar association" formally.

He is responsible for his sirvice/actions.




I was told by a friend to do the same thing. Report him, and from what I understand. No matter what kind of hearing it is. That he is supose to be there repersenting me or not.


Judge should have found him in contempt, for not showing. OPINION

no photo
Sun 02/14/10 08:13 AM
Edited by iam4u on Sun 02/14/10 08:17 AM
Hello Shadow, I am sorry to hear this is not over-with.
Your lawyer doesn't have to be present for some hearings?
And your attorney is EVERYTHING at this time, as he is the only one
to know your details and what the judge will see as the law in nature
to custody for your favor or hers, or the mutual time you both will have with your son.
THIS is the best time for him to pull a rabbit out of his hat, to show her inadequate to properly raise him or have him in her constant care.
With monies being tight, its a tough call to say,,get a new lawyer as most require a retainer to start the case..then all time spent knowing it,,by the hour pay to them..
Try seeking some free counsel on this attorney matter and his lack of
acting within the time-frames involved here.
You shouldn't be held liable for your attorneys lack of handling your case. I am thinking their is a petition you can file with the court or through a judge to acquire more time if your lawyer was negligent in handling your case based on YOU not acting within the courts ordered time frame.

TheShadow's photo
Sun 02/14/10 08:28 AM

whoa I have this vision of C.Eastwood blowing away the curling tendrils of smoke from the barrel of his pistola.Then he looks over at this old-timer & says you'll be needing to make another coffin for that two bit lawyer over there.:laughing:




Good to see you Cypoet :smile:






TheShadow's photo
Sun 02/14/10 08:35 AM

Hello Shadow, I am sorry to hear this is not over-with.
Your lawyer doesn't have to be present for some hearings?
And your attorney is EVERYTHING at this time, as he is the only one
to know your details and what the judge will see as the law in nature
to custody for your favor or hers, or the mutual time you both will have with your son.
THIS is the best time for him to pull a rabbit out of his hat, to show her inadequate to properly raise him or have him in her constant care.
With monies being tight, its a tough call to say,,get a new lawyer as most require a retainer to start the case..then all time spent knowing it,,by the hour pay to them..
Try seeking some free counsel on this attorney matter and his lack of
acting within the time-frames involved here.
You shouldn't be held liable for your attorneys lack of handling your case. I am thinking their is a petition you can file with the court or through a judge to acquire more time if your lawyer was negligent in handling your case based on YOU not acting within the courts ordered time frame.


Ya, ill have to look into it and see where things go frim here. If this next hearing works out to where we can come up with an agreemnet. Then it will be all over.

The one thing t5hat sucked was, me repersenting myself and the prtective order was dropped. So now i'm like, whats going to happen next.

Quietman_2009's photo
Sun 02/14/10 08:36 AM
I dont know enough to advise

but you might be better served by letting it go to court

most times (not always) the judges are pretty fair and consider both sides and try to work it out to a win win


lawyers I dont like. their whole purpose in life is to manipulate the letter of the law to try and defeat the spirit of the law

no photo
Sun 02/14/10 08:41 AM


whoa I have this vision of C.Eastwood blowing away the curling tendrils of smoke from the barrel of his pistola.Then he looks over at this old-timer & says you'll be needing to make another coffin for that two bit lawyer over there.:laughing:




Good to see you Cypoet :smile:







Ditto!my friend.Long time no see hey? I'm sorry to hear about this dilemma that your all wrapped up in.I will keep U in my thoughts & prayers.Inadequate counseling.Geez!It is my hope that this outcome will be in your favor.Stay positive & strong K.Godspeed!Cy :smile: drinker

TheShadow's photo
Sun 02/14/10 08:43 AM

I dont know enough to advise

but you might be better served by letting it go to court

most times (not always) the judges are pretty fair and consider both sides and try to work it out to a win win


lawyers I dont like. their whole purpose in life is to manipulate the letter of the law to try and defeat the spirit of the law



I'm leaning more to letting things go to court to, just let things play out. Your right from what people have told me about the judge we have. He seems to be fair and that's all I was looking for. Just paying a lawyer is a pain, but without one, it would be stupid to try to do this on my own.

oldsage's photo
Sun 02/14/10 08:44 AM
Had an aquantance, went to court with no lawyer, he & his wife had "agreed" to get along & just use her attorney.
Court, everything had changed, he lost visitation & HUGE support payments. ALL due to the fact "he had no attorney PRESENT & representing him." If she has an attorney, YOU MUST also.
You don't go to a battle w/o preparation. OPINION

TheShadow's photo
Sun 02/14/10 08:47 AM



whoa I have this vision of C.Eastwood blowing away the curling tendrils of smoke from the barrel of his pistola.Then he looks over at this old-timer & says you'll be needing to make another coffin for that two bit lawyer over there.:laughing:




Good to see you Cypoet :smile:







Ditto!my friend.Long time no see hey? I'm sorry to hear about this dilemma that your all wrapped up in.I will keep U in my thoughts & prayers.Inadequate counseling.Geez!It is my hope that this outcome will be in your favor.Stay positive & strong K.Godspeed!Cy :smile: drinker


Well guess what, you will be seeing me around more.

It's been rough, but I have done everthing right that I know of and soon this will be over.

TheShadow's photo
Sun 02/14/10 08:50 AM

Had an aquantance, went to court with no lawyer, he & his wife had "agreed" to get along & just use her attorney.
Court, everything had changed, he lost visitation & HUGE support payments. ALL due to the fact "he had no attorney PRESENT & representing him." If she has an attorney, YOU MUST also.
You don't go to a battle w/o preparation. OPINION



Yep! so ill stick it out. Just see what else I can do. I have a friend that his dad took law. So ill give him a call today and see what he knows.

Quietman_2009's photo
Sun 02/14/10 09:05 AM
dont do what I did

my ex wife's son has Down Syndrome. He is about thirty now going on six.

for his sake I signed EVERYTHING over to her. the house and all the assets

these kids need continuity and security in their lives and I didnt have the heart to disrupt his life any more than the divorce already did

and then she stuck me with ALL the debts

now I kinda wish I had forced her to sell the house and split it. Somtimes taking the high road is morally right but you suffer the consequences for it

oldsage's photo
Sun 02/14/10 09:11 AM

dont do what I did

my ex wife's son has Down Syndrome. He is about thirty now going on six.

for his sake I signed EVERYTHING over to her. the house and all the assets

these kids need continuity and security in their lives and I didnt have the heart to disrupt his life any more than the divorce already did

and then she stuck me with ALL the debts

now I kinda wish I had forced her to sell the house and split it. Somtimes taking the high road is morally right but you suffer the consequences for it


Been there, got the sweatshirt.
Had it to do over, would still do the same.
I did those things for me, not them.

Quietman_2009's photo
Sun 02/14/10 09:12 AM


dont do what I did

my ex wife's son has Down Syndrome. He is about thirty now going on six.

for his sake I signed EVERYTHING over to her. the house and all the assets

these kids need continuity and security in their lives and I didnt have the heart to disrupt his life any more than the divorce already did

and then she stuck me with ALL the debts

now I kinda wish I had forced her to sell the house and split it. Somtimes taking the high road is morally right but you suffer the consequences for it


Been there, got the sweatshirt.
Had it to do over, would still do the same.
I did those things for me, not them.


yeah and I agree

I just wish that *I* had some of that money now hahaha

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