Once again, I feel the need to simplify the psychobabble that seems to
be running rampant.

Combatant / Non-Combatant

Lrt the babble begin.

"There is another idea: In every place in the world that the US Armed
Forces have had military bases, there are children left behind. Fathered
by American G.I. that never took responsibility for them, and the US
government fails to make them assume their responsibility. Even more,
the US Government will not acknowledge these children, and won't even
provide the mothers with suitable means to prove that the child is
indeed a child born from an American father.

They are so willing to grant citizenship to anybody that will fight in
the Armed forces, regardless of their country of birth, political
affiliation, educational background, etc. why don't give it to a few
children that will be grateful for the opportunityof having a life?"



Alada I am sorry but all I have to say is five words: It takes two to
tango.

Just because an american man sires a child does not mean that child
should automatically be given american citizenship. Same thing fro an
american woman.

"well interesting

maybe they should bring the draft back

and instead of just drafting some

make mandatory for all"

adj4u, I have to agree one hundred percent with bringing the draft back.
Hohwever, I think it should be reformed as well.

Here oges and I want everyones aopinion on this.


your 18, graduating highschool, and physically healthy to serve.
you either go directly to colege, or you go to army. period.

if you go army, first two years are spent as non deployable cause you
are going to college via uncle sam, to get your associates. after those
two years, the top 20 percent are offered two more years of school for
bachelors. everyone else serves 2 years regular army to pay back the
schooling.
Those that get their bachelors degree are then required to serve four
years (one year per school year). top ten percent go to officer school.
ALso bachelor students are deployable.

now those htat went to college? they are required to maintain a certain
gpa or they are kicked out and sent straight to the army.

Therre is a lot more to my thoughts and I will post it all again soon,
but for now lets see what people think about his.

Daniel,

You make a good point about the draft. Perhaps they should bring it
back. If they do, I hope they make it fair across the board and not
just look at the lower and middle economic classes.

Nice to hear some suggestions and I actually like the way your heading
with this. Might make an interesting topic for a seperate thread.

See ya.. Jerry

Boy, this thread sure has went south....

What is so hard to understand, its history.
Foreigners, weaken an army no matter who's we are talking
about!!
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it, and armies made up of
foreigners have a history of bringing down Empires. Period!!!

Hey Fanta,

Your point is taken. We cannot allow our ranks to be dependent on
foreign recruits lest we find ourselves in a serious mess. Although we
have always permitted the enlistment of green card/appropriate visa
holders, this has been a very small percentage. If the current levels
are in fact at 2% then we need to keep it in that range.

The current mentality of recruiting is way off. I think I'll starg a
thread devoted just to that subject. Take care

"Alada I am sorry but all I have to say is five words: It takes two to
tango.

Just because an american man sires a child does not mean that child
should automatically be given american citizenship. Same thing fro an
american woman"

Daniel, you are wrong... to an extent. It is not automatic, there is a
process. A child is entitled to the citizenship of the country he/she
is born in and the citizen of the father or mother, if different from
the country of birth. For example, a child born in Panama of American
parents residing in Panama, is Panamanian by birth, but legally
American. If that same child is sired by an American father but a
Panamanian mother and born in the US, he is American by birth, but he
can also apply to have Panamanian citizenship, becoming a dual citizen.
And viceversa. If the child is born in Panama from an American father or
mother, again Panamanian by birth and entitled to his father or mother
citizenship. At age 18 this child will choose his/her nationality. But
the nationality of birth is never lost.

So, yes the fact that an American sires a child does entitles that child
to citizenship, provided that it can be proved. It is the child's right.

So, am I to understand that it will be OK to sire children from women of
occupied countries? I guess the intent is not to sire a child, but it
happens. The idea is just to have sex? And a child born from this
informal relation is just an accident? With no rights? And th
authorities will not acknowledge it.

Please.

alada

i do thing you got that right

up till the time they reach adulthood

i think legally they have dual citizenship

then they are supposed to choose which country they

want citizenship in

Good morning, all you Current Eventers!

Alada, you are putting your finger right next to the central problem, I
think....

When an American man fails to take his responsibilitiy to his kids
seriously, then all the laws in the world cannot make it right. Even if
the law is applied as you argue it is and should be, that kid is still
being mistreated by his absent and irresponsible father.

I have no sympathy with Fathers or Mothers who skip out on their
responsibilities to their kids.....

Oceans