Topic: Foreign citizens to serve in the US military?
Fanta46's photo
Tue 06/12/07 04:05 PM
I see never mind, December 26, 2006

What have you heard Oceans, are they still talking about it?

Oceans5555's photo
Tue 06/12/07 04:11 PM
About the possibility of a draft?

Just what are we talking about?

Fanta46's photo
Tue 06/12/07 04:16 PM
Yes the draft, they have been taking foreigners since 9-11 if they had a
green card!

Zapchaser's photo
Tue 06/12/07 04:34 PM
Hopefully this won't rain on the b*tch parade, but we have been
accepting foreign allies for many many years. I worked in the Air Force
with a guy from Belize and who hasn't known Philipinos in the military?
huh Yes Alada, a little research would do your opinion well.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 06/12/07 04:47 PM
I arrived in Germany in 1981 with a man of German citizenship. Because,
of German conscript laws they pulled him out and sent him to Italy in
the middle of the night!
They were afraid the Germans would take him, so yes They have been
taking foreign citizen for years!

There were many Puerto Ricans in to, but I think they are considered an
American Territory, aren't they?

A minute ago, I was thinking about immigrants not foreign citizens.. No
wait immigrants are foreign citizens!!!

PS, notice I didnt say illegal. Thats because they must have a green
card. I do not consider them illegal if they have a green card!!

davinci1952's photo
Tue 06/12/07 05:06 PM
fanta...there were blurbs on the news today that
the pentagon was talking about this again today..
the article referred to is older...but the discussion
is ongoing...

adj4u's photo
Tue 06/12/07 05:06 PM
well zap up to a few years ago Philippines was part

of the united states

Fanta46's photo
Tue 06/12/07 05:12 PM
Thank you devinci.
I take it that would be the draft as well?

Zapchaser's photo
Tue 06/12/07 06:44 PM
adj, you call 1935 recent?huh

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Tue 06/12/07 07:39 PM
ridiculous
and as far as u r concern the illegals are the devil of america.
and now the bushy guy from washington wants them in iraq.
hilarious

adj4u's photo
Tue 06/12/07 07:51 PM
i type corrected

so here is the timeline

* 1521 Ferdinand Magellan arrives at Mactan.
* 1565 Spain 'colonizes' the Philippines.
* 1580 Spanish military and political control are consolidated in
lowland areas except for Mindanao, the Sulu Archipelago and Palawan.
* 1605 Most Filipinos became Catholics before this date.
* 1762-74 The British occupy Manila. Until this time, the Spanish
had been able to impose relative isolation on the Philippines.
* 1814 Manila is opened to foreign trade.
* 1869 The Suez Canal is opened, making rade between Europe and the
Philippines easier.
* 1872 The Cavite Rebellion. Hoping to quickly put down an organized
revolt, the Spaniards conducted secret trials and excution, but his
further angered the people.
* 1896 Under the leadership of Filipino General Emilio Aguinaldo,
major fighting begins against the Spanish.
* 1897 The Pact of Biak-na-bato temporarily suspends fighting
between the Filipinos and Spaniards.
* 1898 American ships arrive in Manila Bay and with minimal exchange
of fire, the Spanish are defeated.
June 12: Aguinaldo, along with other Filipino leaders sign the
Declaration of Independence
December 12: U.S. and Spanish negotiators sign the Treaty of
Paris, officially ending the Spanish-American War and ceding the
Philippines to the U.S. for $20 million.
* 1899 January 23: Aguinaldo and his associates formally proclaim
the establishment of the First Philippine Republic at Malolos.
February 4: Fighting breaks out between U.S. and Filipino forces.
The Philippine-American War took about three and a half years, the
overall conflict nearly 10 years. Estimate of Filipino lives lost range
from 400,000 to 600,000, and American lives lost were approximately
10,000.
February 6: U.S. Senate votes to annex the Philippines
March: Protestant missionaries beging arriving on the scene.
* 1901 March 23: General Aguinaldo captured.
Subic Bay designated the principal U.S. Naval Station in the
Philippines. The Sedition Law passed by the Americans imposing the death
penalty or a long prison sentence on anyone advocating Philippine
independence.
The transport ship Thomas sails from San Francisco with 600
American public school teachers bound for the Philippines.
* 1902 Ft. Stotsenberg, later Clark Air Base, is established as a
cavalry outpost.
La Iglesia Filipino Independiente, (The Philippine Independent
Church) is formally organized in many towns taking possession of the
Roman Catholic church buildings.
* 1906 U.S. Supreme Court declares that property taken from Roman
Catholic churches be returned.
* 1907 Local government assemblies formed composed largely of those
owning property.
* 1916 The Jones Law enacted expressing U.S. intention to grant
complete independence 'as soon as conditions are appropriate'.
* 1934 After considerable Filipino lobbying in Washington, the
Tydings-McDuffie Act is passed to provide for a ten-year period of
"Commonwealth" status (beginning 1935) to lead to complete independence.
* 1941 December 7: The Japanese attack Pearl Harbor and Clark Air
Base
* 1944 October 20: U.S. forces return to the Philippine island of
Leyte
October 23: The Philippine Commonwealth is reestablished.
* 1946 July 4: the Philippines is given its political independence
by the U.S.
* 1947 The Military Bases agreement is signed with the U.S.
* 1962 June 12 is declared the new Philippine Independence Day.
* 1970 January through March: Massive student demonstrations in
Manila against Marcos and the U.S. Government.
* 1972 September 21: Marcos declares martial law.
* 1981 January 17: Marcos 'lifts' martial law but retains most ofhis
martial law powers.
* 1983 August 22: Former Senator Benigno Aquino, Jr. is assassinated
at Manila airport while returning from exile in the U.S.
* 1986 February 7: 'Snap' elections are held between Marcos and
Corazon Aquino, with gross fraud and both sides claiming victory.
February 22: Marcos defense minister and deputy chief of staff
defect and barricade themselves. Massive numbers of Filipinos gather
aroundt hem to make possible a near-bloodless transfer of power.
February 25: Marcos flies to Clark Air Base and then to Hawaii and
Corazon Aquino takes over the presidency.
* 1987 A new Constitution is passed by plebiscite.
* 1991 Mt. Pinatubo erupts. Clark Air Base is abandoned because of
extensive damage.
* 1991 Philippine senate boots the Subic Naval base out of the
Philippines.
* 1992 Subic Naval base is closed.


adj4u's photo
Tue 06/12/07 07:55 PM
but it was 1946

:wink:

commonwealth in 34 to begin in 35

but either way was not all that recent

wonder when Pennsylvania will be given independence

hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

interesting

Fanta46's photo
Tue 06/12/07 08:30 PM
Is rediculous in here?huh

Zapchaser's photo
Tue 06/12/07 08:33 PM
Hmmmm back to my original point, when I was in the military, there were
many foreigners in the military. Thanks. Lonely, reread your post and
see if you can find the point where your argument fell apart.drinker

Fanta46's photo
Tue 06/12/07 08:38 PM
I couldnt fiqure who he was talking to.

I was looking for rediculous!!!drinker

Fanta46's photo
Tue 06/12/07 08:41 PM
Help, I dont see where anyone said illegals in the military. I said
green cards!huh

Zapchaser's photo
Tue 06/12/07 08:43 PM
Glen, there is a LOT of Redykulousness (hee hee Hi Lulu:wink: ) going on
in here. People still hung up on the LEGAL issue. Interesting how one
word can turn people into fu*king morons until someone harms them in
some way and then the word is suddenly relevant.bigsmile Or is it
that they were fu*king morons from the beginning? Illegal immigrants are
thrown in jail for a couple of years before deportation. We need to do
that here and with their style of jail, not our Hilton jails. Want to
become a citizen? Do it legally. No? Then let me show you to the
door........

adj4u's photo
Tue 06/12/07 08:44 PM
previous post

Tue 06/12/07 04:34 PM
Hopefully this won't rain on the b*tch parade, but we have been
accepting foreign allies for many many years. I worked in the Air Force
with a guy from Belize and who hasn't known Philipinos in the military?
Yes Alada, a little research would do your opinion well.

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which lead to a mistake in post

was just clearing up my mistake

Zapchaser's photo
Tue 06/12/07 08:47 PM
Sorry Fanta, he hijacked your thread and I bought into it.grumble

Zapchaser's photo
Tue 06/12/07 08:48 PM
You're good adj! Have a brew!drinker drinker drinker drinker