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Topic: so whatever happened to shivalery?
tarra35's photo
Tue 02/09/10 12:43 PM
is it me or is dating gone to heck and all there is left is pictures and profiles on some computer screen dating site? frankly if trueth be known theres nothing like th face to face value of meeting people and trying to find someone you like and asking them out......shur pictires are nice but its eaven more romantic if mr iwannadateu sees you in the store and bumps into you and picks up that bag of vedgies that you dropped on the floor as he bumped into you.......im shure that those of us that were born in the erra of the non computer screen dating thing would agree that they miss those days and afew of us like that mystery of life.........i know i do

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Tue 02/09/10 04:06 PM
Well, that all sounds good and all...but we are not in a movie, and life is not scripted. See, but now I'm confused, is it just me or is everyone looking for a 'Knight in shining armor?' Seems kind of ridiculous really, unrealistic actually...like when we were kids and the teacher always told us that we could go to the moon, and some of us knew that certainly wasn't true, but you had some that were deadset on that goal...where are they?

Be realistic and stop watching/reading romantic stories, that only happens according to the author/director. We live in the real world here, and it seems that everyone thinks that their ever-so-high expectations should be met on a dime, sorry to crush that dream, but it simply isn't as popular as your movie/story makes it out to be.

Chances are, those guys are married, and happily even, or they are with someone and committed. All the same for the ladies as well, as I'm sure they are all married or in a committed relationship, but then again...I'm not seeking the Holy Grail. Well, really, I'm not seeking anything.

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Tue 02/09/10 04:59 PM
I'd just like simple respect. Quite honestly, the treatment of women back in the days of CHIVALRY, knights in shining armor, weren't all that great.

Fear, quit picking on the romance novels. :tongue: You guys and porn movies have the same way of mis-perceiving things. Not everything is a sex-fest, and there's more to a relationsip then just boinking each others brains out.

If someone bumped me, and knocked my veggies on the floor, I'd want a new bag of veggies! LOL!

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 02/09/10 08:57 PM

I'd just like simple respect. Quite honestly, the treatment of women back in the days of CHIVALRY, knights in shining armor, weren't all that great.

Fear, quit picking on the romance novels. :tongue: You guys and porn movies have the same way of mis-perceiving things. Not everything is a sex-fest, and there's more to a relationsip then just boinking each others brains out.

If someone bumped me, and knocked my veggies on the floor, I'd want a new bag of veggies! LOL!



All I'm saying is that by paying so much attention to them you are in fact getting a misrepresentation of facts. All the same with porn, it is just misrepresentation. Think in realistic terms when it comes to a relationship, it is the unrealistic that undoubtedly destroy what could have otherwise been a pretty good relationship.

EquusDancer's photo
Tue 02/09/10 10:10 PM


I'd just like simple respect. Quite honestly, the treatment of women back in the days of CHIVALRY, knights in shining armor, weren't all that great.

Fear, quit picking on the romance novels. :tongue: You guys and porn movies have the same way of mis-perceiving things. Not everything is a sex-fest, and there's more to a relationsip then just boinking each others brains out.

If someone bumped me, and knocked my veggies on the floor, I'd want a new bag of veggies! LOL!



All I'm saying is that by paying so much attention to them you are in fact getting a misrepresentation of facts. All the same with porn, it is just misrepresentation. Think in realistic terms when it comes to a relationship, it is the unrealistic that undoubtedly destroy what could have otherwise been a pretty good relationship.


LOL! That's why I stick with the paranormal romances. I know I'm not going to meet up with any werewolves, shapeshifters, and vampires or Carpathians.

I do agree with you on expectations, but romance novels aren't the only related expectations floating around.

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Wed 02/10/10 01:58 AM
It is really just a media fueled idea though, books, movies, music even...it seems to be something ingrained at a young age with Beauty and the Beast, Snow White, etc. Tragic really, your whole life you are studying from a story that never actually happened...then when you grow up you have been bottle-fed all of these 'underdog' stories that you really have no grasp on the reality of a relationship. Emotions are scribbles and pen ink, and the characters are just filler.

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Wed 02/10/10 04:15 AM

It is really just a media fueled idea though, books, movies, music even...it seems to be something ingrained at a young age with Beauty and the Beast, Snow White, etc. Tragic really, your whole life you are studying from a story that never actually happened...then when you grow up you have been bottle-fed all of these 'underdog' stories that you really have no grasp on the reality of a relationship. Emotions are scribbles and pen ink, and the characters are just filler.


Very true, if you're into the man saves woman fairy tales. But not all of them are like that. And while women enjoy the books and the fantasy, there's many who know it as a fantasy and just want the escapism.

However, it would be nice to truly feel like someone cares and is putting you first in everything, both the guy putting the woman first, and vice versa, and defending each other against the world, so to speak.

Quietman_2009's photo
Wed 02/10/10 06:10 AM
Edited by Quietman_2009 on Wed 02/10/10 06:10 AM
so you mean chivalry like when the knights stole the last of the peasants food for himself and rode around the countryside killing and pillaging and ravishing the young peasant women?

and then acted all courtly for the court women (who usually stank and had no teef)?




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Wed 02/10/10 03:03 PM
Actually, chivalry isn't just how men treat women. It's also about how men treat each other, how women treat men and other women, how younger folks treat their elders, etc. In a nutshell, it's more about how we all act toward each other, beyond the very barest, most basic manners. It's having ethics in our interpersonal dealings with those around us, and going just a bit further than just plain manners. It's about all of us acting like we are nobility, even though we aren't, and treating each other like nobility, too.

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Wed 02/10/10 03:05 PM
As far as the context of dating, try to be patient. You'll find HIM, the one who you are (mutually) meant for, and I would imagine that he will be chivalrous, by any good definition.

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Wed 02/10/10 05:24 PM
Edited by FearandLoathing on Wed 02/10/10 05:25 PM


It is really just a media fueled idea though, books, movies, music even...it seems to be something ingrained at a young age with Beauty and the Beast, Snow White, etc. Tragic really, your whole life you are studying from a story that never actually happened...then when you grow up you have been bottle-fed all of these 'underdog' stories that you really have no grasp on the reality of a relationship. Emotions are scribbles and pen ink, and the characters are just filler.


Very true, if you're into the man saves woman fairy tales. But not all of them are like that. And while women enjoy the books and the fantasy, there's many who know it as a fantasy and just want the escapism.

However, it would be nice to truly feel like someone cares and is putting you first in everything, both the guy putting the woman first, and vice versa, and defending each other against the world, so to speak.


I agree not everyone feels the same, I just used personal terms for relation purposes. Just as there are many that know it is fantasy, it is quite apparent from this post and numerous other posts, that yes, there are people out there that really think this is how it happens in real life.

Of course it would be a wonderful thing to have all of that, but then there is the dilemma of 'should I?' Or rather, do you really want to put someone else before yourself? I've been in both situations, and quite honestly, don't ever put anyone except yourself first...you ultimately go nowhere and with as flimsy of a prospect as dating is...do you really want to lay it on the line for someone that might not even stick around?

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Thu 02/11/10 03:41 PM

I'd just like simple respect. Quite honestly, the treatment of women back in the days of CHIVALRY, knights in shining armor, weren't all that great.

Fear, quit picking on the romance novels. :tongue: You guys and porn movies have the same way of mis-perceiving things. Not everything is a sex-fest, and there's more to a relationsip then just boinking each others brains out.





I found out the hard way. I quit my job to become a cable-guy, thinking I would get all the sex I wanted from hot single wemens and horny married gals.

Wow. What a wake-up call. Just long hours, poor pay, and a bunch of pissed off wemens that had been waiting around all day for me.

metalwing's photo
Thu 02/11/10 03:50 PM
Everybody I know is shivering right now!

talldub's photo
Thu 02/11/10 03:51 PM

is it me or is dating gone to heck and all there is left is pictures and profiles on some computer screen dating site? frankly if trueth be known theres nothing like th face to face value of meeting people and trying to find someone you like and asking them out......shur pictires are nice but its eaven more romantic if mr iwannadateu sees you in the store and bumps into you and picks up that bag of vedgies that you dropped on the floor as he bumped into you.......im shure that those of us that were born in the erra of the non computer screen dating thing would agree that they miss those days and afew of us like that mystery of life.........i know i do

Equal rights and political correctness killed shivalry. May it rest in peace

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Sat 02/27/10 07:06 AM
I think it disappeared when the "c" was replaced with an "s" laugh

Gossipmpm's photo
Sat 02/27/10 07:11 AM

I think it disappeared when the "c" was replaced with an "s" laugh



LMAO!!! That's exactly what I thought!!! laugh laugh

misswright's photo
Sat 02/27/10 08:11 AM
I think it's shacked up with monogamy somewhere in parts unknown. I've been searching the woods of northern VT but no sightings yet. Better chance of seeing Bigfoot I think.ohwell

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Sat 02/27/10 07:14 PM

is it me or is dating gone to heck and all there is left is pictures and profiles on some computer screen dating site? frankly if trueth be known theres nothing like th face to face value of meeting people and trying to find someone you like and asking them out......shur pictires are nice but its eaven more romantic if mr iwannadateu sees you in the store and bumps into you and picks up that bag of vedgies that you dropped on the floor as he bumped into you.......im shure that those of us that were born in the erra of the non computer screen dating thing would agree that they miss those days and afew of us like that mystery of life.........i know i do


it went out the window with spelling.......DOH!.......did I say that?

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Sat 02/27/10 07:15 PM
I've seen bigfoot, in fact I used to work for her.

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Sat 02/27/10 08:02 PM
It is true dating has changed through years...internet and a txt speed dating and all....I too do not approve...I do think that this site a nice means to meat someone and set up a date though. I did meet someone a while back ago....so it has not been a total loss..good luck and just try to have fun...:smile:

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