I'm no republican nor a democrat and I look at issues and problems without either side's demagoguery or ideology. I think they are both wrong

there is no difference between blame Obama republicans and blame Bush democrats. just sold out to different special interests and both are still blood sucking vampires slowly killing this country

and if you buy in to the "its all George Bush's fault" thing then you're just being another fool bought and paid for by millions of dollars worth of partisan propaganda

last I checked, the President can't spend a penny of taxpayer money. Only congress can do that and except for the recent rare majority, it requires both parties to approve any spending

Still they cannot defend their party or it's actions. I guess it'd help if they even had a platform.

Not one posterchild had a decent argument nor any references to back up their claims. Figures.

Here's what left the GOP...(smart people).

I want a third party based on moderates

dedicated to term limits and and a complete top to bottom audit of the entire federal government

this guy is using Gallup as his source...

I agree but look at the "third party" that's in the offering..the T-bagging party of extremist refusniks? LMFAO. I'd like to see us move to a more Parliamentary form of government...the UK rocks on that.

nahhh t-baggers are just people that are so far right wing that the republicans are too liberal for em (although they are starting to get taken over by the moderates who are fed up with the federal govt)

Yeah they attracted the worst of the worst...and to add that the party was invented by the insurance/pharma industries(via Glenn Beck) to protect their profits...most in the party have no clue they got used...

They got a lot of nutbags:

"At one of the many "Tea Party" protests, this one in Cleveland, not a single participant believes that President Obama was born in the US. Numerous McCain Palin voters, even the organizer, refused..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNQUA0bI5b0

Seconded.

Well it was, a lot of people have been suckered in thinking that the party was something far more moderate. I heard one in an interview that thought his money was being spent to oust all sitting politicians and put in all new. He had no clue he was supporting the far far right. I don't think that's uncommon of a number tea-baggers at this point.

The right takes advantage of people who are not savvy in the political or social arenas. Sadly most folks who are far right believe they are standing up for their religion and traditional American values which is very very false.

Neither side is beyond using BS to fool people into supporting them. I'm reminded of the BS concerning Obama's citizenship. That whole nonsense was started because the left started their BS on McCain because he was not born in the US. Congress rightly decided that the constitution was not meant to exclude someone in McCain's situation from being president. In the end the republican party did a better job of instilling confusion and misunderstanding than the left did, but that doesn't mean the democratic party didn't try.

I don't think it's the form of government that's the problem. It's all the legalized corruption. Take some of the money out of politics and the situation will improve dramatically very quickly.

I see more of it on the right. And I do try to read all different views.

More of it? Perhaps we just haven't caught all of them... Does it really matter? Makes no difference to me whose lie is perceived as bigger more frequent or whatever. A liar is a liar is a liar. Until until we stop listening to lies from either side, and demand honesty all we will ever get is liars.

We have the best government that money can buy.

Ain't that the truth.

I done a post about unemployment and the states lies about their figures a year ago,,and it is NOW STARTING to really show its TRUTH...
They falsely stated we are at 9.5 percent...we are really more like 18.0 percent,,as MANY,,,,MANY who THEY now are SHOWING BACK TO WORK.
THEY have ONLY RAN OUT OF BEING ABLE TO COLLECT ANYMORE UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATIONS.....
SO THE STATES SHOW THEM """""BACK TO WORK"""""" AND THATS JUST WRONG!!!!!
And IT WILL COME TO FULL BLOOM "SOON"...

from www.bls.gov

Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment, the Government uses the number of persons filing claims for unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under State or Federal Government programs. But some people are still jobless when their benefits run out, and many more are not eligible at all or delay or never apply for benefits. So, quite clearly, UI information cannot be used as a source for complete information on the number of unemployed

....the Government conducts a monthly sample survey called the Current Population Survey (CPS) to measure the extent of unemployment in the country. The CPS has been conducted in the United States every month since 1940, when it began as a Work Projects Administration

...Each month, 2,200 highly trained and experienced Census Bureau employees interview persons in the 60,000 sample households for information on the labor force activities

A sample is not a total count, and the survey may not produce the same results that would be obtained from interviewing the entire population. But the chances are 90 out of 100 that the monthly estimate of unemployment from the sample is within about 290,000 of the figure obtainable from a total census. Since monthly unemployment totals have ranged between about 7 and 11 million in recent years, the possible error resulting from sampling is not large enough to distort the total unemployment picture

..Persons are classified as unemployed if they do not have a job, have actively looked for work in the prior 4 weeks, and are currently available for work.


Those people out of work and not looking for work are not considered part of the labor force and not included in the numbers, the UE rate refers strictly to those in the labor force