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Topic: Why the Tea Party Convention is tea-tering on the edge
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Tue 02/02/10 06:39 PM
Why the Tea Party Convention is tea-tering on the edge

With two major speakers throwing in the towel, the first-ever Tea Party convention is giving Americans a glimpse at internecine fighting over the direction of the libertarian movement. But for now, the show goes on in Nashville.



By Patrik Jonsson Staff writer / January 30, 2010
Atlanta

With conservative firebrand Sarah Palin headlining, it’s been billed as an event to fuse and celebrate the tenets of the disparate “tea party” movement that has rocked American politics over the last year, forcing President Obama to take a more frugal and populist stance.

But so far, the first-ever Tea Party Nation Convention, slated for next weekend at Nashville’s Opryland, has been anything but a show of unity.

The decision by Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R) of Minn. and Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R) of Tenn. to pull out of the convention, coming after similar withdrawals from groups like the American Liberty Alliance, has given Americans a glimpse into the vigorous internecine battles tearing at what critics mock as America’s latest mobocracy.

But so far, the tea party show goes on, and reports that Ms. Palin will speak to a half-empty room are most likely overblown. The uproar over the convention, some tea party activists say, is, in fact, exactly the kind of healthy debate necessary to shape a stronger and more influential movement.
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'No central authority'

“The controversy only proves there’s no central authority,” says John O’Hara, author of “A New American Tea Party” and one of the early tea party organizers. “And wherever and whenever people are getting together to talk about getting the nation on track, it is a positive thing.”

Still, it turns out the exit of two key speakers is only the tip of the iceberg for the embattled convention, an event that some tea party activists fear could tarnish the movement.

The big beefs:
Sticker shock

The price tag: $549 for the convention and another $349 for the speech by Palin is money that many believe could be better spent supporting tea party-backed candidates in next year’s election.

Some have gone further, saying the upscale lobster dinner contradicts the tea party movement’s thrifty image, and feeds into theories that the convention is really a GOP “ruse” that will earn the organizer millions. Judson Phillips, the Nashville lawyer behind the convention, has dismissed those notions as sour grapes by former organizers. Organizers say they'll barely break even.

Cult of personality: Yes, Sarah Palin is a major conservative figure, but many tea party groups don’t want to get sucked into the kind of “cult of personality” that lifted Obama into the White House in 2008.

Local v. national: From the beginning, the tea party movement has been torn by its local versus national aspirations. Many who oppose the convention say it’s the people who should be speaking to the politicians, not the other way around.
Ethical questions behind withdrawals?

Bachmann and Blackburn cited questions raised by the House Ethics Committee about speaking in front of a for-profit entity as reasons for pulling out, although some wonder whether it also could have been a welcome excuse for the lawmakers as the controversy around the convention built in the last two weeks.

For many, the flap is a healthy development, representative of the kind of amateur hour aspect of the tea party movement that tends to undermine criticisms that it’s really a well-oiled Astoturf operation by shadowy conservative groups.

"It goes to the key point [that] grass-roots movements tend sometimes to be unwieldy," convention spokesman Mark Skoda tells NPR. "These are not professionals. We are not professional corporate organizers."

Indeed, besides Palin, other supporters and groups vow to stick with the Tea Party Convention.

“We’re proud to stand with other Americans who respect the U.S. Constitution, the rule of law, and the need to limit the size and scope of the federal government,” said Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, a well-respected organization that promotes government integrity and transparency.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0130/Why-the-Tea-Party-Convention-is-tea-tering-on-the-edge


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Tue 02/02/10 06:43 PM
as at the time. i don'tMichelle Bachmann even live in usa. i red your article. i have to say Michelle Bachmann is nuts. and sarah palin bought tons of her own books.

Dragoness's photo
Tue 02/02/10 06:45 PM

as at the time. i don'tMichelle Bachmann even live in usa. i red your article. i have to say Michelle Bachmann is nuts. and sarah palin bought tons of her own books.


LOL

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Tue 02/02/10 06:46 PM


As I understand it, the guy who got the Tea Party movement going is trying to turn this into a lucrative career for himself so some are backing out because he has invited corporations to take part in this event.

liberalredneck's photo
Tue 02/02/10 06:49 PM
to me and me only. tea party are white people protesting. because there power is slipping away. kind of funny.

cashu's photo
Tue 02/02/10 06:49 PM
they just need a few good men

InvictusV's photo
Tue 02/02/10 06:58 PM
what the left wingers don't get is that these people never vote for dumbocrats anyway.. It's the independents that are going to make the difference in the mid term elections.

They can talk all day and all night about these people and it just doesn't matter.. Independents voted for Brown.. That is why he won..

Trashing these people just make you look more ignorant and arrogant...

Something I never thought was possible..

Dragoness's photo
Tue 02/02/10 07:09 PM

what the left wingers don't get is that these people never vote for dumbocrats anyway.. It's the independents that are going to make the difference in the mid term elections.

They can talk all day and all night about these people and it just doesn't matter.. Independents voted for Brown.. That is why he won..

Trashing these people just make you look more ignorant and arrogant...

Something I never thought was possible..


Are you personally attacking me because you didn't read the damn article?

I guess someone may be showing their own ignorance here instead.

liberalredneck's photo
Tue 02/02/10 07:14 PM

what the left wingers don't get is that these people never vote for dumbocrats anyway.. It's the independents that are going to make the difference in the mid term elections.

They can talk all day and all night about these people and it just doesn't matter.. Independents voted for Brown.. That is why he won..

Trashing these people just make you look more ignorant and arrogant...

Something I never thought was possible..
hey smart guy try checking browns voting record. has vote more on democrats side then any. so guess you win will be short.

InvictusV's photo
Tue 02/02/10 07:24 PM


what the left wingers don't get is that these people never vote for dumbocrats anyway.. It's the independents that are going to make the difference in the mid term elections.

They can talk all day and all night about these people and it just doesn't matter.. Independents voted for Brown.. That is why he won..

Trashing these people just make you look more ignorant and arrogant...

Something I never thought was possible..


Are you personally attacking me because you didn't read the damn article?

I guess someone may be showing their own ignorance here instead.


I don't make things personal.

Did you write the article? If you did then I was referring to you, if you didn't then I wasn't.. Which is it?

InvictusV's photo
Tue 02/02/10 07:28 PM


what the left wingers don't get is that these people never vote for dumbocrats anyway.. It's the independents that are going to make the difference in the mid term elections.

They can talk all day and all night about these people and it just doesn't matter.. Independents voted for Brown.. That is why he won..

Trashing these people just make you look more ignorant and arrogant...

Something I never thought was possible..
hey smart guy try checking browns voting record. has vote more on democrats side then any. so guess you win will be short.


I don't care what his voting record is. Coakley was Obama's girl and she lost.

Dragoness's photo
Tue 02/02/10 07:31 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Tue 02/02/10 07:31 PM



what the left wingers don't get is that these people never vote for dumbocrats anyway.. It's the independents that are going to make the difference in the mid term elections.

They can talk all day and all night about these people and it just doesn't matter.. Independents voted for Brown.. That is why he won..

Trashing these people just make you look more ignorant and arrogant...

Something I never thought was possible..


Are you personally attacking me because you didn't read the damn article?

I guess someone may be showing their own ignorance here instead.


I don't make things personal.

Did you write the article? If you did then I was referring to you, if you didn't then I wasn't.. Which is it?


Okay then you didn't read the damn thing. Either way you showed your *** on that one.

Dict8's photo
Tue 02/02/10 07:37 PM
The creepy racism and rampant ignorance of the whole tea party movement really disturbs me. I hope the whole thing implodes. We'd be better off...:tongue:

InvictusV's photo
Tue 02/02/10 07:37 PM




what the left wingers don't get is that these people never vote for dumbocrats anyway.. It's the independents that are going to make the difference in the mid term elections.

They can talk all day and all night about these people and it just doesn't matter.. Independents voted for Brown.. That is why he won..

Trashing these people just make you look more ignorant and arrogant...

Something I never thought was possible..


Are you personally attacking me because you didn't read the damn article?

I guess someone may be showing their own ignorance here instead.


I don't make things personal.

Did you write the article? If you did then I was referring to you, if you didn't then I wasn't.. Which is it?


Okay then you didn't read the damn thing. Either way you showed your *** on that one.


I read the article and it's pointless.. Its about a rift within a non existent party. It was written to cast these people in a bad light. Dysfunction.. "Mobocracy".. I don't see how this is anything other than a hitjob..

Dragoness's photo
Tue 02/02/10 07:39 PM



what the left wingers don't get is that these people never vote for dumbocrats anyway.. It's the independents that are going to make the difference in the mid term elections.

They can talk all day and all night about these people and it just doesn't matter.. Independents voted for Brown.. That is why he won..

Trashing these people just make you look more ignorant and arrogant...

Something I never thought was possible..
hey smart guy try checking browns voting record. has vote more on democrats side then any. so guess you win will be short.


I don't care what his voting record is. Coakley was Obama's girl and she lost.


She wasn't Obama's girl. So that isn't true.

Dragoness's photo
Tue 02/02/10 07:40 PM

The creepy racism and rampant ignorance of the whole tea party movement really disturbs me. I hope the whole thing implodes. We'd be better off...:tongue:


I do agree.

The article is from a source that is favorable to the teabaggers. So if they see problems then there are some big problems.

InvictusV's photo
Tue 02/02/10 07:41 PM




what the left wingers don't get is that these people never vote for dumbocrats anyway.. It's the independents that are going to make the difference in the mid term elections.

They can talk all day and all night about these people and it just doesn't matter.. Independents voted for Brown.. That is why he won..

Trashing these people just make you look more ignorant and arrogant...

Something I never thought was possible..
hey smart guy try checking browns voting record. has vote more on democrats side then any. so guess you win will be short.


I don't care what his voting record is. Coakley was Obama's girl and she lost.


She wasn't Obama's girl. So that isn't true.


Who did he support?

Dragoness's photo
Tue 02/02/10 07:45 PM





what the left wingers don't get is that these people never vote for dumbocrats anyway.. It's the independents that are going to make the difference in the mid term elections.

They can talk all day and all night about these people and it just doesn't matter.. Independents voted for Brown.. That is why he won..

Trashing these people just make you look more ignorant and arrogant...

Something I never thought was possible..
hey smart guy try checking browns voting record. has vote more on democrats side then any. so guess you win will be short.


I don't care what his voting record is. Coakley was Obama's girl and she lost.


She wasn't Obama's girl. So that isn't true.


Who did he support?


The Democrat of course, but that doesn't make her is girl.

He was not backing her for reasons other than party association.

SunnyMcleod's photo
Tue 02/02/10 07:47 PM
I saw The Tea Party in '05 opening for Def Leppard. I wasn't too impressed, although the singer did play this one song all on a sitar which was cool.

Def Leppard was awesome though bigsmile

Dict8's photo
Tue 02/02/10 07:47 PM
That movement is so blatantly manufactured...it's not even funny.

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