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A new Israeli report defending the military's conduct in the Gaza war was challenged tonight after evidence emerged apparently contradicting one of its key findings.
Israel submitted a 46-page report to the UN on Friday saying its forces abided by international law throughout the three-week war last year. It was meant to avert the threat of international prosecutions and to challenge a highly critical UN inquiry by South African judge Richard Goldstone, which accused both Israel and Hamas of "grave breaches" of the fourth Geneva convention, war crimes and possible crimes against humanity. The Israeli report looked in detail at a handful of incidents, including the attack on the al-Badr flour mill in northern Gaza, which was severely damaged. The UN mine action team, which handles ordnance disposal in Gaza, has told the Guardian that the remains of a 500-pound Mk82 aircraft-dropped bomb were found in the ruins of the mill last January. Photographs of the front half of the bomb have been obtained by the Guardian. *more at Guardian.co.uk |
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A new Israeli report defending the military's conduct in the Gaza war was challenged tonight after evidence emerged apparently contradicting one of its key findings. Israel submitted a 46-page report to the UN on Friday saying its forces abided by international law throughout the three-week war last year. It was meant to avert the threat of international prosecutions and to challenge a highly critical UN inquiry by South African judge Richard Goldstone, which accused both Israel and Hamas of "grave breaches" of the fourth Geneva convention, war crimes and possible crimes against humanity. The Israeli report looked in detail at a handful of incidents, including the attack on the al-Badr flour mill in northern Gaza, which was severely damaged. The UN mine action team, which handles ordnance disposal in Gaza, has told the Guardian that the remains of a 500-pound Mk82 aircraft-dropped bomb were found in the ruins of the mill last January. Photographs of the front half of the bomb have been obtained by the Guardian. *more at Guardian.co.uk And ?!?!?! Sadly to say, the US is guilty of a number of misforgivings. |
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i glad i,m not the only this site. that knows Israel.are nothing more then murders.
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A new Israeli report defending the military's conduct in the Gaza war was challenged tonight after evidence emerged apparently contradicting one of its key findings. Israel submitted a 46-page report to the UN on Friday saying its forces abided by international law throughout the three-week war last year. It was meant to avert the threat of international prosecutions and to challenge a highly critical UN inquiry by South African judge Richard Goldstone, which accused both Israel and Hamas of "grave breaches" of the fourth Geneva convention, war crimes and possible crimes against humanity. The Israeli report looked in detail at a handful of incidents, including the attack on the al-Badr flour mill in northern Gaza, which was severely damaged. The UN mine action team, which handles ordnance disposal in Gaza, has told the Guardian that the remains of a 500-pound Mk82 aircraft-dropped bomb were found in the ruins of the mill last January. Photographs of the front half of the bomb have been obtained by the Guardian. *more at Guardian.co.uk And ?!?!?! Sadly to say, the US is guilty of a number of misforgivings. agreed and i wish the UN would conduct more investigations against the US |
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as long as USA backs Israel. Arabs will hate them
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I wish the UN would go away and take the Geneva Convention with them. Arabs will hate the US regardless of what we do. Well, maybe if we all converted to Islam we would be suffered to live. Fanatical Muslims, supported by states and organizations like, oh I don't know...PLO, IRAN, SAUDI ARABIA, ETC...,don't abide by the Geneva Convention or UN rules. Why should Israel or the US? If you plan to murder, you shouldn't be surprised if somebody returns the favor.
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Well...I would not advocate murder under any circumstances.
And, I don't not believe in "an eye for an eye" etc. and I do believe in the Geneva convention. But there is a HUGE difference between Hamas and Israel... Hamas openly advocates killing innocent civilians to try to settle their civil disagreement about land ownership. The hold parties and distribute candy to children when innocent Israelis are maimed or killed in terrorist attacks which they gleefully take pride in committing. This is obscene. Israel on the other hand does not advocate violence towards civilians and takes great pains to avoid civilian inconvenience let alone injuries even while trying to defend herself from untargeted missile attacks on her cities - or floating bombs what have you. They drop warning leaflets, ask civilians to leave military areas and give clear indications and aid to those caught in the crossfire. It is long past time that the international community come to Israel's defense and stop the mickey mouse Islamic block UN kangaroo court - it is simply an embarrassment. |
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S1lowhand.
I don't advocate murder, either. I also don't believe in an eye for an eye. I was simply pointing out that if you live by the sword, you shouldn't cry foul when you die by it. Anyway, I wasn't very clear in my points. First point is that the UN is a joke. Second point. The Geneva Convention, at one time, was functional - when people agreed to play by a set of rules. The problem is terrorists don't play by any set of rules. Furthermore, they like to use the GC as a tool to cry "look at what {insert group/nation here} did!" Then they turn right around and violate it themselves by doing things like beheading civilians such as Nick Berg. Right now the GC is a set of handcuffs for us and not for our enemy...and the fanatics ARE our enemy. If we do not seek to change the GC, or replace it with something more effective, we will eventually lose our way of life. It is highly unlikely we can both win this fight and abide by the treaty. I would desire that not to be the case. But after reading the entire treaty and observing how we have fought wars since Viet Nam, I can't see it happening. Maybe I'm wrong. I hope so. |
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So Netanyahu stating publicly that their goal is to eradicate all arabs is OK..but Hamas fighting for their homes isn't. yes that's great logic.
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So Netanyahu stating publicly that their goal is to eradicate all arabs is OK..but Hamas fighting for their homes isn't. yes that's great logic. Now this is the first thing I have seen you post that I 100% agree with. The logic behind that kind of thinking is completely absurd to me. |
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So Netanyahu stating publicly that their goal is to eradicate all arabs is OK..but Hamas fighting for their homes isn't. yes that's great logic. Did I say that? No. I didn't. I would agree with you. It's not any more ok for him threaten that than it is for Hitler V.2 in Iran to threaten the same about Israel. Here's the thing. If you truly believe Israel is in the wrong, you are not going to get the rest of the world to sympathize with you by blowing up innocent civilians. If you want Israel to come to the table you have to STOP ATTACKING THEM. If you tell me you want peace and follow that by punching me in the face, what do you think I'm going to do in return? Yes! Beat the freaking crap out of you! If you want peace and equity, then act like it. The same goes for Israel. |
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So Netanyahu stating publicly that their goal is to eradicate all arabs is OK..but Hamas fighting for their homes isn't. yes that's great logic. Now this is the first thing I have seen you post that I 100% agree with. The logic behind that kind of thinking is completely absurd to me. What in the world are you talking about? Netanyahu never said any such thing that I ever heard of!!?!! Blowing up busloads of kids, elderly and cheering and dancing over the killings of Americans in the World Trade Center bombings of 911 is NOT Hamas fighting for their homes. It is terrorism and crimes against humanity. Worthy of universal condemnation. Israel does nothing even remotely comparable in my opinion. |
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So Netanyahu stating publicly that their goal is to eradicate all arabs is OK..but Hamas fighting for their homes isn't. yes that's great logic. Now this is the first thing I have seen you post that I 100% agree with. The logic behind that kind of thinking is completely absurd to me. What in the world are you talking about? Netanyahu never said any such thing that I ever heard of!!?!! Blowing up busloads of kids, elderly and cheering and dancing over the killings of Americans in the World Trade Center bombings of 911 is NOT Hamas fighting for their homes. It is terrorism and crimes against humanity. Worthy of universal condemnation. Israel does nothing even remotely comparable in my opinion. If blowing up innocent kids and elderly truly is worthy of universal condemnation to you, you should be condemning the US government, since they've been in the murder and destruction business for more than a century. |
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So Netanyahu stating publicly that their goal is to eradicate all arabs is OK..but Hamas fighting for their homes isn't. yes that's great logic. Now this is the first thing I have seen you post that I 100% agree with. The logic behind that kind of thinking is completely absurd to me. What in the world are you talking about? Netanyahu never said any such thing that I ever heard of!!?!! Blowing up busloads of kids, elderly and cheering and dancing over the killings of Americans in the World Trade Center bombings of 911 is NOT Hamas fighting for their homes. It is terrorism and crimes against humanity. Worthy of universal condemnation. Israel does nothing even remotely comparable in my opinion. of course you never heard it because Fox would never put that on the air, it was in fact quoted in Israel's own news publication and this was in 1998. |
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s1owhand
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Fri 02/05/10 03:48 PM
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So Netanyahu stating publicly that their goal is to eradicate all arabs is OK..but Hamas fighting for their homes isn't. yes that's great logic. Now this is the first thing I have seen you post that I 100% agree with. The logic behind that kind of thinking is completely absurd to me. What in the world are you talking about? Netanyahu never said any such thing that I ever heard of!!?!! Blowing up busloads of kids, elderly and cheering and dancing over the killings of Americans in the World Trade Center bombings of 911 is NOT Hamas fighting for their homes. It is terrorism and crimes against humanity. Worthy of universal condemnation. Israel does nothing even remotely comparable in my opinion. of course you never heard it because Fox would never put that on the air, it was in fact quoted in Israel's own news publication and this was in 1998. Prove it with a credible news citation? |
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Here is an actual speech by Netanyahu from last summer...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f76BXLCD86A |
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So Netanyahu stating publicly that their goal is to eradicate all arabs is OK..but Hamas fighting for their homes isn't. yes that's great logic. Now this is the first thing I have seen you post that I 100% agree with. The logic behind that kind of thinking is completely absurd to me. What in the world are you talking about? Netanyahu never said any such thing that I ever heard of!!?!! Blowing up busloads of kids, elderly and cheering and dancing over the killings of Americans in the World Trade Center bombings of 911 is NOT Hamas fighting for their homes. It is terrorism and crimes against humanity. Worthy of universal condemnation. Israel does nothing even remotely comparable in my opinion. That kind of rhetoric has been repeated many times by leaders on both sides of the argument. One group doesn't even think the other has a right to exist. |
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It is not the same for both sides though. Only Hamas, Al-Aqsa, Fatah and Hezbollah say that Israel does not have the right to exist.
Israel has said repeatedly that they will gladly live side by side with their neighbors in peace if they will put down their arms and start behaving peacefully. But when attacked, Israel will defend themselves as is their responsibility to their citizens. The whole thing would be over today if those attacking Israel laid down their arms and everybody knows it and personally I think this will eventually happen when those attacking Israel decide they love their children more than they hate Israel. There are many many tragedies in this whole story but one of the greatest is the failure of the Clinton, Barak, Arafat talks where Arafat was offered about 98% of what he sought, rejected it and chose war again. But it is not reciprocal. Israel does not make war on the Palestinians without extreme provocation. Look how long they cajoled, warned, test fired, economically pressured and third party negotiated with Hamas over the thousands - literally THOUSANDS of untargeted unprovoked missile attacks on Israeli civilians...But the attacks only ceased when they went back into Gaza militarily and destroyed Hamas military capability. This is why the blame for such catastrophes and many others falls squarely on Hamas - They forced the conflict. They bear responsibility for all the casualties on both sides. Israel does not attack innocent people. This is the tactic of terrorists like Hezbollah and Hamas and their sponsors such as Iran. |
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