Topic: what will they complain about next, a cure fore cancer
HuckleberryFinn's photo
Thu 01/28/10 02:18 AM
apparently some women groups are trying to block the upcoming commercial for the superbowl in which Tim Tebo the highly touted quarterback from Florida says how glad he is that his mother didn't take the doctors advice and have an abortion.....I'll bet almost everyone associated with Florida University feels the same way.....with all the current issues in america and abroad, you'd think these putz's would focus their attentions elsewhere.....

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Thu 01/28/10 02:58 AM

apparently some women groups are trying to block the upcoming commercial for the superbowl in which Tim Tebo the highly touted quarterback from Florida says how glad he is that his mother didn't take the doctors advice and have an abortion.....I'll bet almost everyone associated with Florida University feels the same way.....with all the current issues in america and abroad, you'd think these putz's would focus their attentions elsewhere.....


1st of all, we're talking about a football player. No big loss to humanity if there's one less.
2ndly, to say it's a plus for him to have not been aborted shows a lack of critial thinking. An example: suppose because he was born, at some time in his life he caused a chain of events which ended in an accident that killed someone. Further, suppose that person killed would've, if he or she lived, found a cure for cancer.

Of course there's nearly an infinite number of possible scenerios, both positive and negative, which could've happened because he was born or could've happened if he wasn't. There's just not enough information to say which is better for humanity.

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Thu 01/28/10 04:54 AM
Public forum is like a box of chocolates.U just never know what lil nugget of info. your going to receive.Too funny! laugh drinker

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Thu 01/28/10 09:52 AM
Why don't they just combat it with their own commercial?


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Fri 01/29/10 12:48 AM
Edited by HuckleberryFinn on Fri 01/29/10 12:48 AM
good point, they can run their own commercial, as to the person who feels humanity is best served by some abortions due to what may or may not happen later in life, to each their own....It's not even worth the debate.

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Fri 01/29/10 10:03 AM

good point, they can run their own commercial, as to the person who feels humanity is best served by some abortions due to what may or may not happen later in life, to each their own....It's not even worth the debate.


that's good. you've totally misunderstood my point.

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Fri 01/29/10 12:06 PM
no I didn't misunderstand anything, you're a person who lives in a black and white world or would like to without grey areas, you want life and its course to be predictable, it just isn't gonna happen and thank God, how boring would that be.....anyhow like I said, to each their own, this isn't about abortion per say, but about a man who takes pride in the fact that his Mother went against the odds and he appreciates the opportunity to continue to show her she made the right CHOICE, and what's wrong with him expressing that.....Nothing

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Sat 01/30/10 07:48 AM

no I didn't misunderstand anything, you're a person who lives in a black and white world or would like to without grey areas, you want life and its course to be predictable, it just isn't gonna happen and thank God, how boring would that be.....anyhow like I said, to each their own, this isn't about abortion per say, but about a man who takes pride in the fact that his Mother went against the odds and he appreciates the opportunity to continue to show her she made the right CHOICE, and what's wrong with him expressing that.....Nothing


how in hades can you misconstrue what I wrote for being a "black or white world"??
What I wrote was completely grey. There was no definitive "this is good this is bad" statements.
You're just p.o. because I didn't support your premise.

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Sun 01/31/10 08:15 AM
support me, pfft...I stand on my own two feet and always have, I don't need your support nor anyone else's to think for myself. However for arguments sake, let's just say you have you thoughts and I have mine and leave it at that.....

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Wed 02/03/10 03:03 PM

support me, pfft...I stand on my own two feet and always have, I don't need your support nor anyone else's to think for myself. However for arguments sake, let's just say you have you thoughts and I have mine and leave it at that.....


yeah. And if that were true, you wouldn't have bothered to make this thread in the first place.

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Wed 02/03/10 03:38 PM
it's not even worth it, it really isn't, but if you wanna debate, you know how to contact me, other than that....well figure it out

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Sun 02/07/10 03:11 PM
It's a paid commercial, pony your money up and say what ever you want.

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Mon 02/08/10 08:02 AM
This is an article about the ad http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12897411/super-bowl-ad-with-tebow-mother-lighthearted-in-tone


But listen to what this moron had to say about it:


The Women's Media Center, which had objected to Focus on the Family advertising in the Super Bowl, said it was expecting a "benign" ad but not the humor. But the group's president, Jehmu Greene, said the tackle showed an undercurrent of violence against women.

"I think they're attempting to use humor as another tactic of hiding their message and fooling the American people," she said.


laugh


"violence against women" LMAO

I guess she is afraid they will "fool" women into NOT having abortions.

Give me a break.






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Tue 02/09/10 10:50 PM
I wasn't impressed with the ad one way or the other. Sounded more like "rah-rah for my son" then a anti-choice ad.

However, it was mentioned that it now opens up the field to equally showing a pro-choice ad, which is true.

I thought the tackling part of the scene was asinine, but I thought the same seeing it with Betty White.

It might have been different as kids playing around, and mom was definitely good for football games with us as kids, but if we did that for any reason other then to protect her life, she'd nail our ears to the wall.

I can see the abuse issue with it. But then I can't say as I wrestle with guys anymore because they don't know when to stop, and it steps over into the serious.

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Wed 02/10/10 10:56 AM

I wasn't impressed with the ad one way or the other. Sounded more like "rah-rah for my son" then a anti-choice ad.

However, it was mentioned that it now opens up the field to equally showing a pro-choice ad, which is true.

I thought the tackling part of the scene was asinine, but I thought the same seeing it with Betty White.

It might have been different as kids playing around, and mom was definitely good for football games with us as kids, but if we did that for any reason other then to protect her life, she'd nail our ears to the wall.

I can see the abuse issue with it. But then I can't say as I wrestle with guys anymore because they don't know when to stop, and it steps over into the serious.



It's a free world. The Super Bowl will give equal advertising time to whoever wants to pony up the cash.

As for the ad depicting violence against women - I guess you can choose to take anything out of context. The woman that made that comparison, I would liken to PETA: an organization with some legitimate concerns over animals that turn around and make themselves look foolish by asking Punxsutawny to use a robot groundhog. Stick to relevant issues, for God's sake.

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Wed 02/10/10 04:42 PM


I wasn't impressed with the ad one way or the other. Sounded more like "rah-rah for my son" then a anti-choice ad.

However, it was mentioned that it now opens up the field to equally showing a pro-choice ad, which is true.

I thought the tackling part of the scene was asinine, but I thought the same seeing it with Betty White.

It might have been different as kids playing around, and mom was definitely good for football games with us as kids, but if we did that for any reason other then to protect her life, she'd nail our ears to the wall.

I can see the abuse issue with it. But then I can't say as I wrestle with guys anymore because they don't know when to stop, and it steps over into the serious.
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It's a free world. The Super Bowl will give equal advertising time to whoever wants to pony up the cash.

As for the ad depicting violence against women - I guess you can choose to take anything out of context. The woman that made that comparison, I would liken to PETA: an organization with some legitimate concerns over animals that turn around and make themselves look foolish by asking Punxsutawny to use a robot groundhog. Stick to relevant issues, for God's sake.


Right, and perception is everything of course. So, it might not be out of context for one person, but is for another person. But since one doesn't really know each person's history offhand, one shouldn't reject the comments offhand.

And while I will say when PETA was first established, I think they did really good will getting attention out and things fixed. Now, however, their nucking futs out of their minds!


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Thu 02/11/10 03:20 AM
Edited by LewisW123 on Thu 02/11/10 03:21 AM



I wasn't impressed with the ad one way or the other. Sounded more like "rah-rah for my son" then a anti-choice ad.

However, it was mentioned that it now opens up the field to equally showing a pro-choice ad, which is true.

I thought the tackling part of the scene was asinine, but I thought the same seeing it with Betty White.

It might have been different as kids playing around, and mom was definitely good for football games with us as kids, but if we did that for any reason other then to protect her life, she'd nail our ears to the wall.

I can see the abuse issue with it. But then I can't say as I wrestle with guys anymore because they don't know when to stop, and it steps over into the serious.
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It's a free world. The Super Bowl will give equal advertising time to whoever wants to pony up the cash.

As for the ad depicting violence against women - I guess you can choose to take anything out of context. The woman that made that comparison, I would liken to PETA: an organization with some legitimate concerns over animals that turn around and make themselves look foolish by asking Punxsutawny to use a robot groundhog. Stick to relevant issues, for God's sake.


Right, and perception is everything of course. So, it might not be out of context for one person, but is for another person. But since one doesn't really know each person's history offhand, one shouldn't reject the comments offhand.

And while I will say when PETA was first established, I think they did really good will getting attention out and things fixed. Now, however, their nucking futs out of their minds!








Out of context is out of context. If you took that commercial as an underhanded way of promoting violence against women, your perceptors are off. Sorry.

EquusDancer's photo
Thu 02/11/10 03:23 AM




I wasn't impressed with the ad one way or the other. Sounded more like "rah-rah for my son" then a anti-choice ad.

However, it was mentioned that it now opens up the field to equally showing a pro-choice ad, which is true.

I thought the tackling part of the scene was asinine, but I thought the same seeing it with Betty White.

It might have been different as kids playing around, and mom was definitely good for football games with us as kids, but if we did that for any reason other then to protect her life, she'd nail our ears to the wall.

I can see the abuse issue with it. But then I can't say as I wrestle with guys anymore because they don't know when to stop, and it steps over into the serious.
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It's a free world. The Super Bowl will give equal advertising time to whoever wants to pony up the cash.

As for the ad depicting violence against women - I guess you can choose to take anything out of context. The woman that made that comparison, I would liken to PETA: an organization with some legitimate concerns over animals that turn around and make themselves look foolish by asking Punxsutawny to use a robot groundhog. Stick to relevant issues, for God's sake.


Right, and perception is everything of course. So, it might not be out of context for one person, but is for another person. But since one doesn't really know each person's history offhand, one shouldn't reject the comments offhand.

And while I will say when PETA was first established, I think they did really good will getting attention out and things fixed. Now, however, their nucking futs out of their minds!








Out of context is out of context. If you took that commercial as an underhanded way of promoting violence against women, your perceptors are off. Sorry.


Shrugs. Like I said, I've been in the position when it went from a joke like that to far more serious and he didn't respect No and Stop.