Topic: Terrorists and Their GOP Enablers
Atlantis75's photo
Thu 01/07/10 09:42 PM
As usual, the corporate mainstream media can't see the forest through the trees when it comes to terrorism.

The purpose of terrorism is to create fear and terror that demoralizes and immobilizes a people. In the case of the near terrorist destruction of a Detroit bound flight, they have once again, largely thanks to the Republicans, succeeded. The GOP is the best enabler Al Qaeda has because it ratchets up the fear to such an extent that the terrorists succeed.

After all, Al Qaeda or its offshoots can't conquer America. This is not WW II when the very governance of Western nations was at stake.

Terrorism has been with us throughout history.It is most often used for a limited goal: the defeat of an occupying army. Think of Algeria for such an example. The French, after chronic terrorist attacks (with only limited success at suppressing them), granted Algeria independence -- and the attacks against the French ceased (which took place primarily in the French section of Algiers).

The Islamic Fundamentalist attacks against the U.S. (and let's not forget Britain and Spain before it pulled its troops out of the "coalition") come from diverse factions of a loosely connected terrorist movement. The goals of this movement range from forcing the West to leave Islamic nations, to then having fundamentalist guerillas overthrow Western aligned Muslim governments, to just terrorizing the U.S. because it is evil in the eyes of some radical mullahs.

Actually, the Bush Administration accommodated Osama bin-Laden by pulling bases out of Saudi Arabia as he had demanded, but the ongoing attempt to maintain a U.S. military footprint with de facto armed control over the Middle East continues to be a motivating factor inmuch of the terrorist rhetoric and terrorist acts.

But the larger goal seems to show that a relatively small number of ragtag extremists can immobilize and make a quivering fool out of the U.S.

As the pro-military Stratfor Global Intelligence report succinctly puts it, "The purpose of terrorism in its purest form is to create a sense of insecurity among a public. It succeeds when fear moves a system to the point where it can no longer function. This magnifies the strength of the terrorist by causing the public to see the failure of the system as the result of the power of the terrorist. "

No group is of more assistance to the terrorists in creating this mindset of helpless hysteria than the GOP. The Republican leadership has a synergistic relationship with terrorism. It can't survive without the terrorists, because it has no tenable governing program except to wither taxes down for the rich, Wall Street and corporations until they pay none: that's about it. So, it needs the terrorists (after all, Bush did nothing to prevent 9/11, even though he was warned about likely impending Al Qaeda hijackings and he didn't pursue Osama bin Laden either) to create the same numbing, paralyzed chaos that the terrorists themselves want to achieve.

After a nearly 10 year war, aren't the terrorists showing that they control the upper hand by occasionally launching an attack on an airliner or train (as in London and Spain) every year or so? And when a nation is in chaos from fear, authoritarian regimes step in, as they have throughout history, in the name of the "patria" or nation. That is what we had under Bush and that is what traitors like Sen. DeMint hope to again achieve in their tacit political partnership with the terrorists.

As Stratfor, as centrist a publication as one can find on military and intelligence matter, notes:

There are possible solutions. One is to accept that Islamist terrorism cannot be defeated permanently but can be kept below a certain threshold. As it operates now, it can inflict occasional painful blows on the United States and other countries -- including Muslim countries -- but it cannot threaten the survival of the nation (though it might force regime change in some Muslim countries).

In this strategy, there are two goals. The first is preventing the creation of a jihadist regime in any part of the Muslim world. As we saw when the Taliban provided al Qaeda with sanctuary, access to a state apparatus increases the level of threat to the United States and other countries; displacing the Taliban government reduced the level of threat. The second goal is preventing terrorists from accessing weapons of mass destruction that, while they might not threaten the survival of a country, would certainly raise the pain level to an unacceptable point. In other words, the United States and other countries should focus on reducing the level of terrorist capabilities, not on trying to eliminate the terrorist threat as a whole.

To a great extent, this is the American strategy. The United States has created a system for screening airline passengers. No one expects it to block a serious attempt to commit terrorism on an airliner, nor does this effort have any effect on other forms of terrorism. Instead, it is there to reassure the public that something is being done, to catch some careless attackers and to deter others. But in general, it is a system whose inconvenience is meant to reassure.

This is pretty much what Obama is doing, but the GOP wants to be the megaphone for the terrorists, turning America into a mass of quivering jelly so that they can assume dictatorial powers, as Cheney and Bush did. If you doubt it, just catch Dick Cheney on one of his FOX interviews to understand this syndrome.

It is our misfortune as a nation that our lives are threatened by religious zealots abroad and our nation is threatened by a major political party, the GOP, at home.

They are two hands on the same body.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/Terrorists-and-Their-GOP-E-by-Mark-Karlin-100107-984.html

EquusDancer's photo
Thu 01/07/10 09:46 PM
So very true!!!

InvictusV's photo
Fri 01/08/10 07:52 AM
What I take from this is that we should all just accept the fact that every so often a plane is going to be blown up or a few buildings are going to be bombed... WOW.. What a great idea..

That is liberal progressive tough opinion for you..

I am really happy that they cleared that up.. The next time a plane blows up and kills a couple of hundred people I'll now know that it was the republicans behind it..

Great article.. I'll sleep better knowing the liberal progressive tough opinionated people have my back..

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Fri 01/08/10 09:08 AM
noway

articles should be posted in the jokes section!

Atlantis75's photo
Fri 01/08/10 11:48 AM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Fri 01/08/10 11:56 AM

noway

articles should be posted in the jokes section!


You gotta read around.


The ‘Long War’: Who’s Winning?

It ain’t us…

It has been eight years since al-Qaeda attacked the Twin Towers and the Pentagon: eight long years in which the "war on terrorism" – begun by George W. Bush in a blaze of righteousness, and since carried on by his successor, in Afghanistan and Pakistan – has been waged on several fronts. So, how are we doing?

No one can honestly say we are winning, or anywhere close to it. Osama bin Laden and the top leadership of al-Qaeda are still at large, still issuing messages mocking their pursuers and vowing fresh terrorist attacks to come. One of those messages, communicated by bin Laden himself in the days before the 2004 presidential election, effectively demonstrates not only our ongoing defeat but also the reason for it:

"All that we have to do is to send two mujahidin to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al-Qaeda, in order to make the generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic, and political losses without their achieving for it anything of note other than some benefits for their private companies.

"This is in addition to our having experience in using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers, as we, alongside the mujahidin, bled Russia for 10 years, until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat."

As we race from Afghanistan to Iraq, back to Afghanistan, into Pakistan and now into Yemen, bin Laden must be chortling in his cave, somewhere, contemplating the undoubted success of his strategy. As what the war aficionados and amateur grand strategists call the "Long War" approaches the end of its first decade, the fact that we are losing – and losing badly – cannot have escaped the attention of Western leaders. This is underscored by the most recent attacks – the post-9/11 wave of seemingly minor incidents (or, at least, minor in comparison to what happened on 9/11) – and the Western response.

It started out light. First there was Richard Reid (December, 2001), then a gunman, Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, opened fire at an El Al ticket counter at LAX (July, 2002); in 2004, the Madrid train bombings; in 2006, the first suicide bombings in Europe occurred in Britain, but, again, nothing on the scale of 9/11. The one major plot, the transatlantic liquid bomb plot, was scotched by British security services: another bomb plot, in 2008, failed. In 2009, there was this incident, which, in retrospect – in view of the Yemen connection – may be significant, the Ft. Hood massacre, which also has a Yemen connection, and the most recent attack: the abortive bomb attempt carried out by Umar Farouk Abdel Muttalib, yet another Yemen-connected incident.

If we step back, and take an overview, we can see two patterns emerging: first, the utter ineffectiveness of the idea that invading and occupying Muslim countries (Afghanistan, Iraq) could have any appreciable effect on al-Qaeda’s operations aimed at the US and Western Europe. Indeed, it seems US military action in Afghanistan and Iraq only aided bin Laden’s recruitment efforts, particularly in Europe.

The "flypaper" strategy, once hailed by Andrew Sullivan and other "war-bloggers" boomeranged badly: instead, we are the ones stuck to the flypaper, and stuck with costly and counterproductive military campaigns that show no signs of ever coming to an end.

Treating this as a problem for the military to solve, rather than more traditional law enforcement methods, has proved a failure. In that 2004 video message, bin Laden gloated that he would bankrupt the United States – and can anyone deny that he has succeeded?

The second pattern to emerge from the past eight or so years is the relative amateurism and ineffectuality that has characterized attempts by al-Qaeda to hit the continental US. Losers like Reid, Hassan, and now Muttalib were essentially drones acting largely on their own. Muttalib reportedly went to Yemen, where he was supposedly "trained" and equipped by al-Qaeda, but, as we can see, this training was about as effective as the bomb itself, i.e. pathetic. It seems clear that al-Qaeda planners didn’t much care if their agents succeeded or failed. The point of these attacks seems to have been to keep our attention focused on airliners, and our efforts focused on weeding out potential terrorists from the millions of daily travelers. I might add that the pace of these drone attacks has picked up: three in the last year.

So what is al-Qaeda up to? A number of analysts have stated that the "drone" attacks mean al-Qaeda is exhausted, and unable to launch a major attack on US soil: they are flailing about, sending these losers on suicide missions that have little chance of success, and, even if successful, would have little impact on the American colossus. This view is utterly mistaken.

In order to see what is really going on, I believe we have to go back to the seminal event, the 9/11 attacks, and get a clear picture of what was happening in the months and weeks prior to that fateful day in September.

Al-Qaeda was already entrenched in the US, having placed its foot soldiers on our soil years before, patiently training and waiting for The Day. In addition, in the months prior to September 11, 2001, a massive effort to penetrate sensitive US government and military facilities was underway. The National Counter-Intelligence Center (NCIC) published an "alert" averring that groups of individuals who described themselves as "Israeli art students" were showing up at government offices and military installations, trying to gain entry:

"In the past six weeks, employees in federal office buildings located throughout the United States have reported suspicious activities connected with individuals representing themselves as foreign students selling or delivering artwork. Employees have observed both males and females attempting to bypass facility security and enter federal buildings."

They were also showing up "at the homes of senior officials," according to the NCIC, a development that must have set off alarm bells throughout the counter-intelligence apparatus. An inter-agency report was compiled and leaked to the public, which named names and gave a very specific account of who these Israeli "visitors" were, and what they were up to: many had backgrounds in intelligence and the military, with a specialty in electronic eavesdropping.

The activities of these "art students" were reported by Christopher Ketcham in a piece for Salon.com, but it was Carl Cameron, at Fox News, who really blew the lid off of the "Israeli art student" story in the aftermath of 9/11, in mid-December, 2001, with a four-part series on Israeli spying in the US. His first report started off with a bang. Noting that "more than 60" (later, around 200) Israelis had been picked up in the wake of 9/11 under the same anti-terrorist rubric as the "sweep" of Arabs living in the US, Cameron averred:

"There is no indication that the Israelis were involved in the 9-11 attacks, but investigators suspect that they Israelis may have gathered intelligence about the attacks in advance, and not shared it. A highly placed investigator said there are ‘tie-ins.’ But when asked for details, he flatly refused to describe them, saying, “evidence linking these Israelis to 9-11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It’s classified information."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSEbgrmKtmA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7T4DhDLPrY

As Oliver Schrom wrote in Die Zeit, the respected German weekly, there is convincing evidence that the 9/11 hijackers were being trailed by Israeli agents:

"Not until after the attacks of September 11 did the consequences of the spy ring become clear. Apparently the agents were not interested in military or industrial facilities, but were shadowing a number of suspects, who were later involved in the terrorist attacks against the US. According to a report of the French intelligence agency that Die Zeit examined, ‘according to the FBI, Arab terrorists and suspected terror cells lived in Phoenix, Arizona, as well as in Miami and Hollywood, Florida from December 2000 to April 2001 in direct proximity to the Israeli spy cells.’"

Like the recent wave of al-Qaeda bombers, the "art students" were pretty ineffective – drones, easily detected and/or prevented from carrying out their missions. Ketcham theorized that the Israelis were a planned diversion, designed to draw attention and resources away from the 9/11 hijackers and focus it on the platoons of "art students" who were suddenly showing up at government offices – some of which weren’t on any map or in any telephone directory. Citing an anonymous intelligence official, Ketcham wrote:

"The art student ring was a smoke screen intended to create confusion and allow actual spies – who were also posing as art students – to be lumped together with the rest and escape detection. In other words, the operation is an elaborate double fake-out, a hiding-in-plain-sight scam. Whoever dreamed it up thought ahead to the endgame and knew that the DEA-stakeout aspect was so bizarre that it would throw off American intelligence. According to this theory … Israeli agents wanted, let’s say, to monitor al-Qaida members in Florida and other states. But they feared detection. So to provide cover, and also to create a dizzyingly Byzantine story that would confuse the situation, Israeli intel flooded areas of real operations with these bumbling ‘art student’” – who were told to deliberately stake out DEA agents."

Confused, preoccupied, and stretching their personnel and resources to the max, the US intelligence-gathering agencies were blinded to the warning signs that indicated the 9/11 plot. The Israeli "art student" smokescreen worked like a charm.

The same sort of smokescreen effect has blinded us to al-Qaeda’s future plans, focusing our attention on airliners and anticipating a repeat of the methods employed by them on 9/11, i.e. using an airliner as a weapon of mass destruction. Indeed, the parallels with the pre-9/11 landscape are ominous, including the strong suspicion that the al-Qaeda bombers and would-be bombers, such as Mr. Muttalib, had some sort of outside assistance: see the account of the "well-dressed Indian man" described by Michigan attorney Kurt Haskell. Haskell was a passenger on the plane, and, as he was waiting to board, overheard the Indian trying to get Muttalib on the plane without the proper papers. And then there is the suggestion that the investigation into Muttalib – the apparent indifference of the CIA and/or the US State Department to the warnings of the would-be bomber’s father that his son posed a danger – was deliberately scuttled. This isn’t just some fringe crank making this suggestion, but MSNBC reporter Richard Wolfe:

"The question is why didn’t the centralized system of intelligence that was set up after 9/11, why didn’t it work? Is it conspiracy or **** up? Is it a case of the agencies having so much rivalry between them that they were more determined to stymie each other or the centralized system rather than the terrorist threat or was it just that there were so many dots no one could connect them because it was just all too random to figure out. It seems that the president is leaning very much towards thinking this was a systemic failure by individuals who maybe had an alternative agenda."

"An alternative agenda"? In the context of al-Qaeda’s ongoing campaign to inflict a mortal blow on the US, what can this "alternative agenda" consist of?

Keith Olbermann, naturally, is hysterically implying that this is all a Republican plot to discredit Obama and oust the Democrats, but once we get past such juvenile rantings, and take Wolfe’s reporting at face value – that the President of the United States is "leaning very much toward" the idea that the vetting of Muttalib was deliberately botched – the possibility that al-Qaeda has allies in high places is taken out of the realm of the fantastic and given real legs.

Let’s step back, once again, and see where we are: a series of post-9/11 incidents involving individual terrorists on the periphery of al-Qaeda, suicidal "drones" sent to inflict damage without much care taken to ensure their success. And, recently, the pace of these attacks is picking up…

This, I fear, is an effective smokescreen for what al-Qaeda is really planning: a large-scale terrorist assault, perhaps involving nuclear materials, that rivals 9/11 in scope and destructive power. While we’re fighting off these little pinpricks in the form of the Shoe-Bomber and the Panty-Bomber, the real deal is looming right around the next corner – and, perhaps like last time, with those "art students," they have some sort of outside assistance (how else did Muttalib get on that plane?).

Our ports are unguarded: every day millions of tons of cargo pass through, without being inspected. Our nuclear facilities are far from secured (remember those nukes that went missing?) Our borders are notoriously porous, especially our southern border, across which pour tens of thousands of illegal immigrants on a daily basis: why not al-Qaeda?

In the name of a "war on terrorism," we have gone abroad, seeking monsters to destroy – when the monsters, in seems, are in our very midst. Or, if they aren’t, then al-Qaeda is more incompetent than I’m willing to believe.

To answer the question posed at the beginning of this column: we are losing the "war on terrorism," big-time. By concentrating our attention abroad, rather than on the home front, we have made bin Laden into an Islamic folk hero, swelled the ranks of al-Qaeda – and wasted our resources, opening ourselves up to a debilitating attack that could make 9/11 pale in comparison. In short, we have never been more vulnerable, or clueless, when it comes to facing the very real threat posed by al-Qaeda and its allies and enablers.

God help us all.

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/01/05/the-long-war-whos-winning/

cashu's photo
Fri 01/08/10 03:46 PM
Edited by cashu on Fri 01/08/10 03:50 PM
I'm a life long democrat and no I do not agree with you . blame should be passed around as deserved . I'm not going to say Obama has any more fault than he hired a few losers that are making him look bad instead of keeping the united states as safe as possible . plus the fact the borders are still wide open . I don't like the reason for that and hope they come up with some reasonable reason for this .
But this war should of been won by now and would of been if the Republicans ( or g w bush ) hadn't declared war on Iraq for a personal reason . and neglected the real war . blame on idiots can be spread around like water when you have over paid egomaniacs .Fire the boobs now and maybe there won't be so many reasons to vote them out. ( demos )

MiddleEarthling's photo
Fri 01/08/10 05:16 PM
Edited by MiddleEarthling on Fri 01/08/10 05:18 PM

I'm a life long democrat and no I do not agree with you . blame should be passed around as deserved . I'm not going to say Obama has any more fault than he hired a few losers that are making him look bad instead of keeping the united states as safe as possible . plus the fact the borders are still wide open . I don't like the reason for that and hope they come up with some reasonable reason for this .
But this war should of been won by now and would of been if the Republicans ( or g w bush ) hadn't declared war on Iraq for a personal reason . and neglected the real war . blame on idiots can be spread around like water when you have over paid egomaniacs .Fire the boobs now and maybe there won't be so many reasons to vote them out. ( demos )


"But this war should of been won by now "

These wars can never be "won"...extremism exists everywhere,...even in the USA. Also the war was for much more than "personal reasons", the phat non-bid contracts, the positioning for oil supplies, the failed "nation building"...basically the Neo-con controlled GOP agendas went way past Muslim extremist's trying to shoot daddy down...do you know about the Neo-conservatives? It's their phucking war. It's even more complicated when you boil down the root cause or enabler of the senseless violence...goes back thousands of years ...something to do with religion. Christian V Islam V Judaism...eh, don't get me started.

Great post/find dude.


Atlantis75's photo
Fri 01/08/10 07:18 PM
War veteran speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akm3nYN8aG8

cashu's photo
Mon 01/11/10 01:11 PM


I'm a life long democrat and no I do not agree with you . blame should be passed around as deserved . I'm not going to say Obama has any more fault than he hired a few losers that are making him look bad instead of keeping the united states as safe as possible . plus the fact the borders are still wide open . I don't like the reason for that and hope they come up with some reasonable reason for this .
But this war should of been won by now and would of been if the Republicans ( or g w bush ) hadn't declared war on Iraq for a personal reason . and neglected the real war . blame on idiots can be spread around like water when you have over paid egomaniacs .Fire the boobs now and maybe there won't be so many reasons to vote them out. ( demos )


"But this war should of been won by now "

These wars can never be "won"...extremism exists everywhere,...even in the USA. Also the war was for much more than "personal reasons", the phat non-bid contracts, the positioning for oil supplies, the failed "nation building"...basically the Neo-con controlled GOP agendas went way past Muslim extremist's trying to shoot daddy down...do you know about the Neo-conservatives? It's their phucking war. It's even more complicated when you boil down the root cause or enabler of the senseless violence...goes back thousands of years ...something to do with religion. Christian V Islam V Judaism...eh, don't get me started.

Great post/find dude.


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huh ?

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Tue 01/12/10 07:53 AM
If the author of the first article could get his head screwed on strait and then rewrite it, it mite make since.

RKISIT's photo
Tue 01/12/10 10:01 AM
Edited by RKISIT on Tue 01/12/10 10:06 AM

What I take from this is that we should all just accept the fact that every so often a plane is going to be blown up or a few buildings are going to be bombed... WOW.. What a great idea..

That is liberal progressive tough opinion for you..

I am really happy that they cleared that up.. The next time a plane blows up and kills a couple of hundred people I'll now know that it was the republicans behind it..

Great article.. I'll sleep better knowing the liberal progressive tough opinionated people have my back..
ok , so explain how the CIA and FBI had information before the 9/11 attacks during who was our president at the time, George Bush and the worst terrorist attack happened during who was our president at the time,George Bush.....what is he "A republican" i don't see your point,under his administration thousands of people have died.....mostly Americans

markumX's photo
Tue 01/12/10 11:07 AM
yes...ask any arab muslim, christian, or jew if they'd heard of al queda befor 2001 they'll say no yet supposedly they'd been terrorising people since the 70's. they're as real as the easter bunny

cashu's photo
Tue 01/12/10 05:24 PM
Edited by cashu on Tue 01/12/10 05:34 PM

yes...ask any arab muslim, christian, or jew if they'd heard of al queda befor 2001 they'll say no yet supposedly they'd been terrorising people since the 70's. they're as real as the easter bunny
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they were very active in araba . but weren't international .The term terrorist is all in the view . One mans terrorist is another's patriot .

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Tue 01/12/10 06:22 PM
Who wrote that article?Sounds like a 5th grader who has been living in the artic circle and spoonfed daily doses of Micheal moores crap.Obviously this person doesn't have the slightest idea how our government works.If this person would have done even the most basic research on how laws,bills,and actions concerning War he would know that Democrats as well as Republicans are equally responsible for

1.)Going to war
2)Continuing a war
3.)Funding a war

How are you going to blame Republicans for this war when Obama and the Democrats are in full control of the House and Senate?Doesn't this moron realize that Obama is sending more troops into battle?

This author also thinks we are stupid enough to pass terrorist organizations off as just a bunch of rag tag misunderstood group of people.Iran would gladly give any terrorist who could smuggle a nuclear bomb into America and cause billions of dollars in damage and kill millions of people.Ignoring this threat is dangerous and stupid.

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Tue 01/12/10 08:25 PM


yes...ask any arab muslim, christian, or jew if they'd heard of al queda befor 2001 they'll say no yet supposedly they'd been terrorising people since the 70's. they're as real as the easter bunny
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
they were very active in araba . but weren't international .The term terrorist is all in the view . One mans terrorist is another's patriot .

actually they were not however Bin Laden was but it wasn't A Q
but what do i know i'm just from the middle east