This is only a part of the Zeitgeist movie.

part 1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNf-P_5u_Hw

part 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc-mrJf45Hg


part 3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pKWzYF3kjg

Seen it...

Ok, but what do you think? Agree? Disagree? Like, don't like? Confused?

I liked it..I agree with some, most of it. Most was not new news to me..some of it is a bit out there, but I am one who stays open to all possibilities...nothing shocks me anymore. Just because it may be out there, doe not mean it is an untruth. I like to research things before I come to any conclusions...

I think the man behind the entire movement had some valid points...
I don't buy into the doomsday scenarios to much, I think of the changes as more positive. The money system, the government system..it is time to tear down and re-build.

I get several newsletters from several different groups that I subscribe to, most are along the same lines. I am a lightworker, so things that may be to "out there" for others are generally not for me.

And I usually am confused..about something or another.

So, in your opinion, what is really going on? Even if the Jesus story is not true, or any other reliigous story, is it fair to say, that the people need some sort of a deity, who tells them what to believe and what not to believe and how things should be?

For me, that's what it's seems like. Currently the "gospels" aren't coming from the books, but the TV now. People enslave themselves on their own for ideas and theories and unable to detach later on. Basically you can't say "don't follow this" if you don't have an alternative in place.

If you remove one belief, you better have another one to switch to and that's just sad, In my opinion.

It's easier to have some sort of deity to tell you what is right and what is wrong....of course some need that. Then if something goes off track there is something, or someone else to blame it on.
Then we, us , whoever, never really has to own anything..

I don't know what is really going on..and I don't dare put some of my thoughts here (it's Christmas and I don't want to argue) so I leave some things un spoken. My mother lives by her religion to the point of ridiculous..never questions anything. Actually I am grateful for that..it forced me to seek, question, dispute everything. Through that I was able to find my own path...
It's easier to be a sheep..I have never liked things to be too easy.

I am amazed people were so astute and aware about what the sun was doing and when, and watched the stars so carefully. But then, this is probably the only science they had. And they didn't have television or a lot of city lights to block out the stars.

It also amazes me that people today, in this modern world still believe in the myths of the son of God, Jesus, the virgin birth etc. as if this really happened.

Why they anthropomorphized the sun God I'll never know.

I just want to become a sun worshiper and take off my clothes in some warm climate.

i saw these when i was in high school, they made me uber skeptical of everything....

There are some who feel that Jesus came to bring hope to mankind... That his purpose was to be the fulfillment and manifestation of all those who preceded him. The repeated mythology was a prelude to his coming...and he came when the time was right and the world was ready for him.

This concept is not my belief, it is of people I know who have expressed such thoughts

...When the time was right? Christianity didn't latch on until a few hundred years after the supposed crucifixion, and isn't it a bit odd to them that no secular historian of the time mentions the dead walking the streets or the temple rock being split (something like that)? Not to mention the "savior" taught nothing new (religions the world across have held the same beliefs of non-violence and forgiveness long before Jesus), and was crucified for treason. That is, if an acceptable real-world parallel to Jesus ever existed...

The story of Jesus was a fabrication based on myths of the past orchestrated by the Romans in power. The Old Testament was the "Jewish" religion and belief. (a symbolic account and fiction) The New Testament was a complete fraud and pure fiction.

That anyone still believes these ancient writings is astonishing to me.

What if....


Forget about Jesus or Joseph or Mithras... although they all describe the same....
There has something happened in the past that just transformed over the many thousand years; nations and empires picked it up and made it as their "own" story?


Let's see if somebody can describe something, that you have never seen before. Try describing something that you have never seen before, but use only today's words.

Good luck!

I do have my own theory(s) about where the myths came from but they are pretty way out there. It could have a lot to do with the sun and stars etc., but it could also have something to do with another civilization so foreign to us it might be difficult to describe.

has anyone ever seen Man From Earth? Great movie thats deals alot in this topic, I give it 5 stars

Zeitgeist is not about religion, it is about what controls the masses. Religion was such an effective force of control that rulers incorporated the structure into their rule.

Religion was on the way out of governance in Europe when the French Revolution solidified a new religious form we call Nationalism and regular religion fought for it's place in politics ever since.

Zeitgeist is about all the institutions of men that control us, money, propaganda, class and caste systems, -- religion is just one of the great institutions of which human minds have become slave to.

Wow. Ya'll talking way over my head but I am going to add my 2 cents. You only have to look as far as the Catholics to see what religion has become. It is the ultimate cash cow and it is tax free. I think the subject of the bible is interesting. It is a book. Books can be inspirational. It was mentioned that people need this sort of guidance. I do agree with this. I can only imagine the amount of comfort one might feel in this. I guess there could be worse books to worship. I read a book months ago called "The Alchemist". I found it enlightning and thought provoking. It doesn't mean I will sell all my sheep to go look for a sack of gold.

I had never heard of zeitgeist so I had to google it

apparantly there are 300,000 websites debunking point by point the claims made in the movie

most of the claims it makes about Jesus and Mithra are false

Good book!