Oh come on.

You know that their opinion is the only one that matters because they sez so.

Everyone else is just stupid and paranoid to even THINK that a bill full of backroom deals and questionable language could POSSIBLY be bad for the country.

OK!

I'll do it for them!

Limbaugh falsely claims health care bills provide for five years of jail time if you don't buy insurance
November 23, 2009 2:29 pm ET

On Limbaugh's show, Palin fearmongered about "jail time as punishment" in Senate health care bill

Right-wing blogs run with reporter's false question on jail time under health bill

Quick fact: Morris falsely claimed under House health bill, "[Y]ou can actually go to jail for not having health insurance"


http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200911230027

LMAO

Stay away from the Republican blogs people!

Pllease,,,

They are lying to you!

Have YOU looked for the language??

Or are you just taking them at their word and running with that?

And this is so, because YOU say so? DUH!

It's not my claim and it isn't in there.
Trust me!

If you can't say that you have read the entire bill, which by the way, even the Dems say that most of them don't know everything that is in it, then you cannot make the claim that the language isn't there.

I have not read the entire bill, but I HAVE seen the language in question. I just wish I could remember where I saw it. But it was NOT on some Republican blog since I don't read blogs.

As usual, the language is open to interpretation.

Yep. Because they sez so.

In the House bill it says,

H.R. 3962, the House-passed bill, requires people to have health insurance, unless they are below a certain income threshold ($9,350 for singles, $18,700 for couples in 2009). Those who don’t get coverage will be subject to a tax of 2.5 percent of their adjusted income beyond that threshold, up to the cost of the average national premium.

That was the House bill!

Now here's where the confusion and half truth comes in.

Sections of the current Internal Revenue Code, laying out the consequences of willful tax nonpayment.

Depending on the level of the noncompliance, the following penalties could apply to an individual:

■Section 7203 - misdemeanor wilful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.
■Section 7201 - felony wilful evasion is punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years.

That is not wording in the bill, but in the internal revenue code as noted. Sections 7201, 7203!

Normally noncompliance is handled in civil court without a jail penalty.

In the Senate, the Finance Committee’s health care bill was amended to nullify the possibility of jail time for not paying the penalty tax. It stipulates that in the case of nonpayment, "such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure." Instead, the Senate measure would allow the government to collect the tax by deducting it from any IRS tax-refund checks or other government payments.

Satisfied?

Limbaugh, Palin, and Republican blogs are full of misinformation and half-truths.
Don't believe a word they say. If their lips are moving, they are lying!

Next time you make a claim be prepared to provide proof.

Otherwise you are just as guilty of spreading misinformation and propaganda as the Republican blogs you extract your misinformation from.
As someone claimed they did earlier, not to mention a name, make up your own opinion.
Just do it with facts!

Please!

I hearby declare this thread dead!

You can't declare MY thread anything!

You are sooooo funny!

Thanks for the powerless laugh!

Others are STILL welcome and express their opinion!

You have a good night, what's left of it!

Does it really count as an opinion when the post concerns a lie?

LMAO

I don't think so!

In the House bill it says,

H.R. 3962, the House-passed bill, requires people to have health insurance, unless they are below a certain income threshold ($9,350 for singles, $18,700 for couples in 2009). Those who don’t get coverage will be subject to a tax of 2.5 percent of their adjusted income beyond that threshold, up to the cost of the average national premium.

That was the House bill!

Now here's where the confusion and half truth comes in.

Sections of the current Internal Revenue Code, laying out the consequences of willful tax nonpayment.

Depending on the level of the noncompliance, the following penalties could apply to an individual:

■Section 7203 - misdemeanor wilful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.
■Section 7201 - felony wilful evasion is punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years.

That is not wording in the bill, but in the internal revenue code as noted. Sections 7201, 7203!

Normally noncompliance is handled in civil court without a jail penalty.

In the Senate, the Finance Committee’s health care bill was amended to nullify the possibility of jail time for not paying the penalty tax. It stipulates that in the case of nonpayment, "such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure." Instead, the Senate measure would allow the government to collect the tax by deducting it from any IRS tax-refund checks or other government payments.

Satisfied?

Limbaugh, Palin, and Republican blogs are full of misinformation and half-truths.
Don't believe a word they say. If their lips are moving, they are lying!

Ok. So, according to your post, if you don't have health insurance, you are subject to an additional tax.

If you don't PAY that tax, the IRS sez you can get more fines < ie taxes > OR you could possibly go to jail.

Tell me why that language < although not directly IN the bill itself > equates to anything less than what has been said??

If you don't buy health insurance, you pay more taxes. If you don't pay more taxes, you go to jail.

6 of one, a half dozen of another.

It's basically the same call.

Continue with your opinion faced with the fact!

Not a Republican lie!


Thread dead!

Move along folks nothing to see hear but BS!

Justa guy,

Read it all!

Also as said, The penalty,
normally noncompliance is handled in civil court without a jail penalty.

But, that was the house bill which is trumped by the revised bill. The Senate bill.

Oh THAT is hilarious.

The IRS isn't going to come after someone if they don't pay the additional taxes for not buying health insurance????

Dude, I don't know what kind of fantasy land YOU are living in, but the idea that the IRS would just let it go is patently absurd.

Not to mention, IF that was true, then you would have a whole lot of people NOT buying the health insurance AND not paying the taxes because the IRS would have no power to do anything about it.

Come on, man.

I KNOW you are smarter than that.

OH. By the way. Court is not the only option the IRS has.

They can audit someone to death.

T__H__R__E__A__D N__O__T D__E__A__D ! ! !

You are NOT the O/P of this thread...

If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen!

It's not "Obamacare" or the "democrats" or the "republicans" who's gonna put you on the street, but Wall Street.

Watch the unemployment rise drastically in sometime around mid January and February, after the temp workers will let go.