Topic: corruption and politics.
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Sun 12/20/09 03:10 PM
theres alot of complaints and alot of people blaming the goverment,going on about how wrong things are etc. i just have this to say,people are corrupt and cowardly. not the government,people. the goverment isnt a building that walks around doing things,and Polticians arent aliens,and not enough people are willing to risk getting knocked down to make a stand for those that do not to be snuffed out.even a king is an average man if no one listens to them or enforces what they say.

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Sun 12/20/09 03:33 PM

theres alot of complaints and alot of people blaming the goverment,going on about how wrong things are etc. i just have this to say,people are corrupt and cowardly. not the government,people. the goverment isnt a building that walks around doing things,and Polticians arent aliens,and not enough people are willing to risk getting knocked down to make a stand for those that do not to be snuffed out.even a king is an average man if no one listens to them or enforces what they say.


I saw this in the other thread. Well put. We are all human first,,,,

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Sun 12/20/09 03:44 PM
thanks,i looked over some more of the topics and,im opinionated,so i had to make my own after i seen the trend,didnt think i'd get any replies though.

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Sun 12/20/09 03:49 PM

theres alot of complaints and alot of people blaming the goverment,going on about how wrong things are etc. i just have this to say,people are corrupt and cowardly. not the government,people. the goverment isnt a building that walks around doing things,and Polticians arent aliens,and not enough people are willing to risk getting knocked down to make a stand for those that do not to be snuffed out.even a king is an average man if no one listens to them or enforces what they say.


This is not so in the modern State. The modern State differs significantly from the Kingships in that any bad or good decision could be attributed solely to the king. He also owned all the kingdom's property, and was therefore responsible for it. Modern States have all the incentive for corruption and no incentive for responsibility. (for more, see Dr Hoppe's "Democracy: The God That Failed")

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Sun 12/20/09 03:55 PM
Edited by grey0988 on Sun 12/20/09 03:58 PM


theres alot of complaints and alot of people blaming the goverment,going on about how wrong things are etc. i just have this to say,people are corrupt and cowardly. not the government,people. the goverment isnt a building that walks around doing things,and Polticians arent aliens,and not enough people are willing to risk getting knocked down to make a stand for those that do not to be snuffed out.even a king is an average man if no one listens to them or enforces what they say.


This is not so in the modern State. The modern State differs significantly from the Kingships in that any bad or good decision could be attributed solely to the king. He also owned all the kingdom's property, and was therefore responsible for it. Modern States have all the incentive for corruption and no incentive for responsibility. (for more, see Dr Hoppe's "Democracy: The God That Failed")


you missed my point completely. wow. im a little amazed. ill simplify.the king was only an example of some one with authority beyond therir individual means. if no one listens,no one has power.you cant wage a war without troops,you cant collect taxes if no one will pay,and no one will enforce collection.
to nip this in the bud,no im not saying that should be done,im not an anarchist,and i know humans as a whole depend on the system.further more i was saying that people are the issue,stop blaming a concept. i expect a reply as skewed as the last but if your not comprehending yet,trying to explain is futile with the pateince i have.

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Sun 12/20/09 06:49 PM
Edited by cashu on Sun 12/20/09 06:54 PM

theres alot of complaints and alot of people blaming the goverment,going on about how wrong things are etc. i just have this to say,people are corrupt and cowardly. not the government,people. the goverment isnt a building that walks around doing things,and Polticians arent aliens,and not enough people are willing to risk getting knocked down to make a stand for those that do not to be snuffed out.even a king is an average man if no one listens to them or enforces what they say.
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You fail to take into consideration There may be only one king but he is sirounded by loyal people . so ignoreing the king won't change a thing . YOU HAVE TO GET ALL OF THEM TO WIN. I would love to get them all but I can't afford to get them all my self but i do agree ith you about the whiners and cowards . so go starting shooting any time your heart lets you .. right on I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT .

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Sun 12/20/09 06:59 PM
we get the government we deserve

like it or not the government reflects the people of the United States

fat, lazy, greedy and self entitled

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Sun 12/20/09 07:36 PM

we get the government we deserve

like it or not the government reflects the people of the United States

fat, lazy, greedy and self entitled
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the last time i read anything on it only 21% voted any more . so no we are not getting what we want . you think i want even a penny of my tax money spend on killing babies your crazy .

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Sun 12/20/09 07:42 PM
voter turnout for the 2008 presidential election was 56.8%

*Source 2008 election results: http://elections.gmu.edu/Turnout_2008G.html.

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Fri 12/25/09 01:57 AM
Edited by grey0988 on Fri 12/25/09 02:01 AM
your a special breed arent you. wow. you 'almost' caught my point. almost,but still well beyond you.
yes. yes i know PEOPLE,or for the purpose, a person with authority, (i cant say kings as an example,its apparently too misleading.somehow.) has supporters.that was my point. people support corruption because people are corrupt,and i said in my first post,"if NO ONE listens". i also said i know it wont happen,i was only making a point that no one has power beyond what they them selfs are capable of (yes,some people consider the ability to lead a personal attribute.not he issue,stay on track,instead of looking for loop holes just to argue a point im not making.)i also said im not an anarchist or anything of that nature,so i dont even know what part of your - you pulled the bit about going hayday with a gun.being active or even effective doesnt by default mean being violent unless maybe your being activly attacked.

she never said want,she said deserve,and i agree.

nothing you said has been correct or related,that most of the people in government resemble you makes me look at dictatorship in a better light.
because its probably needed-its a joke. *sigh*

kudos quietman.

sorry for the typos,the battery in my key board is low.

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Fri 12/25/09 04:18 AM
we get the government we deserve

like it or not the government reflects the people of the United States

fat, lazy, greedy and self entitled

^absolutely....corruption and politics within the same sentence, it fits, should be listed in the dictionary as Corrupt politics, one word or politically corrupt however you want to look at it.....Granted the politicians start out as your run of the mill idealists, but after being in office for a minute they either submit to the corruption to stay there or quickly end up on the outside looking in.....

One is never responsible for an action towards them, but they are responsible for their reaction.

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Fri 12/25/09 04:00 PM

your a special breed arent you. wow. you 'almost' caught my point. almost,but still well beyond you.
yes. yes i know PEOPLE,or for the purpose, a person with authority, (i cant say kings as an example,its apparently too misleading.somehow.) has supporters.that was my point. people support corruption because people are corrupt,and i said in my first post,"if NO ONE listens". i also said i know it wont happen,i was only making a point that no one has power beyond what they them selfs are capable of (yes,some people consider the ability to lead a personal attribute.not he issue,stay on track,instead of looking for loop holes just to argue a point im not making.)i also said im not an anarchist or anything of that nature,so i dont even know what part of your - you pulled the bit about going hayday with a gun.being active or even effective doesnt by default mean being violent unless maybe your being activly attacked.

she never said want,she said deserve,and i agree.

nothing you said has been correct or related,that most of the people in government resemble you makes me look at dictatorship in a better light.
because its probably needed-its a joke. *sigh*

kudos quietman.

sorry for the typos,the battery in my key board is low.


I know what you said and you don't under stand what I am saying . but I don't want you to . i'm not on your side . so start shooting any time your want . talk is cheap .......

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Fri 12/25/09 04:02 PM

we get the government we deserve

like it or not the government reflects the people of the United States

fat, lazy, greedy and self entitled


:thumbsup:

Dragoness's photo
Fri 12/25/09 04:06 PM

we get the government we deserve

like it or not the government reflects the people of the United States

fat, lazy, greedy and self entitled

^absolutely....corruption and politics within the same sentence, it fits, should be listed in the dictionary as Corrupt politics, one word or politically corrupt however you want to look at it.....Granted the politicians start out as your run of the mill idealists, but after being in office for a minute they either submit to the corruption to stay there or quickly end up on the outside looking in.....

One is never responsible for an action towards them, but they are responsible for their reaction.


We are responsible for who is in office. We put them there either by our actions or our non actions.

Our system is set up that we have the power to change the government. So if we don't like it and lay around and ***** about it, then we have what we deserve by not participating in the processes available.

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Sun 12/27/09 08:55 AM


theres alot of complaints and alot of people blaming the goverment,going on about how wrong things are etc. i just have this to say,people are corrupt and cowardly. not the government,people. the goverment isnt a building that walks around doing things,and Polticians arent aliens,and not enough people are willing to risk getting knocked down to make a stand for those that do not to be snuffed out.even a king is an average man if no one listens to them or enforces what they say.


This is not so in the modern State. The modern State differs significantly from the Kingships in that any bad or good decision could be attributed solely to the king. He also owned all the kingdom's property, and was therefore responsible for it. Modern States have all the incentive for corruption and no incentive for responsibility. (for more, see Dr Hoppe's "Democracy: The God That Failed")
In June 2005, Hoppe gave an interview in the German newspaper Junge Freiheit, in which he characterized monarchy as a lesser evil than democracy, calling the latter mob rule
This guy sounds like a great american