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My county ESC office is pretty vigilant on job search history verification. Good for them!!! We can fix this system, start punishing people for fraud, and use it to help those who are willing to help themselves. |
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Maybe we can migrate north to Canada and work for less than the average Canadian, until we end up being a commodity..:)  Canada isn't as tolerant to illegal immigration as we are. The twelve canadians I have met in my life were truly the nicest folks Ive ever spoken to. |
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The topic is about the plight of the homeless. What would you suggest we do for them? Why are they homeless? You manufactured the imaginary, worst-case scenario, please tell. a growing shortage of affordable rental housing and a simultaneous increase in poverty |
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I've read some folks here would invite some of the homeless into their homes.
How many of you who support Husseins, share the wealth agenda, would open you homes to them? |
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I've read some folks here would invite some of the homeless into their homes. How many of you who support Husseins, share the wealth agenda, would open you homes to them? Maybe I'm in a bad mood, but I hesitate to indulge questions that include such a childish choice of names for President Obama.... and I'm not sure I understand your grammar, but I am generally (not universally) opposed to the faceless impersonal bureaucratic means of 'helping others'. When you take the time to help someone personally, on a material level, you can also take the time to help them on other levels, but demanding honesty/accountability and encouraging personal responsibility on their end. As an example, I basically never give anyone money, no matter their story, but I have purchased for and shared food with people - especially if then intend to eat it right there in front of me. I don't think anyone should be given money from the government without a tightly regulated system in place to guarantee they spend it 'responsibly'. I think that suffering can be an excellent teacher, and we hurt people by trying to hard to protect them from suffering. It really turns my stomach to think of the massive quantity of government aid which I've know to be going directly to drugs, alcohol, and sometimes even expensive hotel rooms. We are hurting these people by giving them money, without making the right kind of demands on them. |
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I've read some folks here would invite some of the homeless into their homes. How many of you who support Husseins, share the wealth agenda, would open you homes to them? Maybe I'm in a bad mood, but I hesitate to indulge questions that include such a childish choice of names for President Obama.... and I'm not sure I understand your grammar, but I am generally (not universally) opposed to the faceless impersonal bureaucratic means of 'helping others'. When you take the time to help someone personally, on a material level, you can also take the time to help them on other levels, but demanding honesty/accountability and encouraging personal responsibility on their end. As an example, I basically never give anyone money, no matter their story, but I have purchased for and shared food with people - especially if then intend to eat it right there in front of me. I don't think anyone should be given money from the government without a tightly regulated system in place to guarantee they spend it 'responsibly'. I think that suffering can be an excellent teacher, and we hurt people by trying to hard to protect them from suffering. It really turns my stomach to think of the massive quantity of government aid which I've know to be going directly to drugs, alcohol, and sometimes even expensive hotel rooms. We are hurting these people by giving them money, without making the right kind of demands on them. Sending aid or money to wherever those in need may be is not quite the same as bringing them INTO your home(especially when children are involved). I think the comparison is lacking,,but helping people is something I am definitely into. I support helping others, I support the idea that all hard working people should have the NECESSITIES in life without having to owe outragous debts for becoming ill or lose their jobs with no security in place for their loyalty and hard work. I support, even, opening my doors to those in need when I know them and can vouch for my childrens safety around them. |
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Sending aid or money to wherever those in need may be is not quite the same as bringing them INTO your home(especially when children are involved). I think the comparison is lacking,,but helping people is something I am definitely into. I'm so literal, I thought he was simply asking about peoples willingness on two separate approaches....now I see that he may have been trying to imply hypocrisy or inadequacy amongst those who would send money, but not take them in. |
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What with unemployment so high and knowing unemployment insurance won't last forever, where will all the homeless be housed? Don't they, even though they can't afford it deserve free housing as well as health care? In many cases, unemployment insurance doesn't cover all the basics for life. If it covers rent, it surely won't cover all other necessities like auto payments, insurance, clothing, food, utilities, etc. I know for certain a landlord will still want their rent. Banks want their money for home, auto and other loans. Repo. A few will live with other family for a while. But, they will be like fish left out of the fridge, start to stink. So, what is the answer to providing housing for the homeless? Is it, just see if they can survive the streets? 
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They can come to my house, we'll put cots up and grow a garden..communal living.  Have you ever opened your home to the homeless before? To some extent, I have. The things you learn! yes, to some extent I have also...not a stranger from off the street, but yes I have. |
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Edited by
willing2
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Sun 12/20/09 05:26 PM
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I've read some folks here would invite some of the homeless into their homes. How many of you who support Husseins, share the wealth agenda, would open you homes to them? Maybe I'm in a bad mood, but I hesitate to indulge questions that include such a childish choice of names for President Obama.... and I'm not sure I understand your grammar, but I am generally (not universally) opposed to the faceless impersonal bureaucratic means of 'helping others'. When you take the time to help someone personally, on a material level, you can also take the time to help them on other levels, but demanding honesty/accountability and encouraging personal responsibility on their end. As an example, I basically never give anyone money, no matter their story, but I have purchased for and shared food with people - especially if then intend to eat it right there in front of me. I don't think anyone should be given money from the government without a tightly regulated system in place to guarantee they spend it 'responsibly'. I think that suffering can be an excellent teacher, and we hurt people by trying to hard to protect them from suffering. It really turns my stomach to think of the massive quantity of government aid which I've know to be going directly to drugs, alcohol, and sometimes even expensive hotel rooms. We are hurting these people by giving them money, without making the right kind of demands on them. If I haven't misspelled Hussein, I believe that's what is on his alleged birth certificate. And, i do gots spail cheker. Ain't nuttin wrong wit my spaillin. Merry Christmas to you, also.  The point is, those new street people are not prepared for the harsh reality of street life. They are the ones who made the poor choices of really overextending themselves. They could wind up being a danger to society. In that, I mean, becoming so, destitute and feeling so helpless, might turn to crimes to provide for themselves and their families. I can understand, there will be some who will insist, they made their beds so, they can die in them. And yes, the law3 of nature is real, only the strong will survive. People screw up. Why condemn them to Hell if we don't have to. Perhaps, the Feds will add an extra tax on those still working to help with the homeless situation. I am going to and would suggest, others talk with their Mayors about setting up abandoned areas where these folks can set up semi-permanent camps, close to schools, shopping and public transit. They would be wise to set up some security to protect them form themselves and outsiders harassing them. |
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Maybe we can migrate north to Canada and work for less than the average Canadian, until we end up being a commodity..:) ALL THESE ILLEGALS FROM MEXIACO HAD JOBS DOWN THERE BEFORE THEY CAME HERE SO MAYBE YOU CAN GO THERE . Its the least they can do for you . |
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Maybe we can migrate north to Canada and work for less than the average Canadian, until we end up being a commodity..:) Canada isn't as tolerant to illegal immigration as we are. The twelve canadians I have met in my life were truly the nicest folks Ive ever spoken to. there all nice when you catch some one breaking the law ...most of the canadaians are illegal to . |
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Maybe we can migrate north to Canada and work for less than the average Canadian, until we end up being a commodity..:) Canada isn't as tolerant to illegal immigration as we are. The twelve canadians I have met in my life were truly the nicest folks Ive ever spoken to. there all nice when you catch some one breaking the law ...most of the canadaians are illegal to . Im curious what would motivate a canadian to come here illegally? Not saying it doesnt happen, but doubting it is the rule. |
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its HARD to get into Canada
they stopped me at the border and turned me back and you DONT want to get caught in Mexico without a visa or papers. its a felony punishable by a couple of years in Mexican prison. and compared to their prisons, ours are a all inclusive resort |
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its HARD to get into Canada they stopped me at the border and turned me back and you DONT want to get caught in Mexico without a visa or papers. its a felony punishable by a couple of years in Mexican prison. and compared to their prisons, ours are a all inclusive resort The Mexicans who passed through Windsor claimed refugee status. It took a couple months but, they finally caught on and started turning them back. |
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Willing2, why are you talking about spelling?
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Willing2, why are you talking about spelling? Wut did you mean by this?? (and I'm not sure I understand your grammar) |
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Willing2, why are you talking about spelling? Wut did you mean by this?? (and I'm not sure I understand your grammar) I think I understand now. When I said 'grammar', maybe you thought I meant 'spelling' - and it also looks like maybe you thought the 'grammar' comment was directly related to your use of President Obama's middle name. It wasn't - I was referring to your use of commas. I was not trying to criticize your grammar, just acknowledging that I wasn't able to parse it. In the previous sentence, I was criticizing your use of Obama's middle name - but not the spelling nor the grammar. Spelling didn't enter the conversation at all, until you brought it in. |
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