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Edited by
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More handouts should work. It's worked so well so far. Do you think Unemployment pays people enough to want to be unemployed? Considering that the government keeps extending the benefits ( up to something like 79 weeks now ) and people get 60% ( at least here in Michigan ) of their previous income...some of them would consider sitting around and doing nothing preferable to working. With the way the job market is now....most of those who would prefer to be working have no choice in the matter anyway. |
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What with unemployment so high and knowing unemployment insurance won't last forever, where will all the homeless be housed? Don't they, even though they can't afford it deserve free housing as well as health care? In many cases, unemployment insurance doesn't cover all the basics for life. If it covers rent, it surely won't cover all other necessities like auto payments, insurance, clothing, food, utilities, etc. I know for certain a landlord will still want their rent. Banks want their money for home, auto and other loans. Repo. A few will live with other family for a while. But, they will be like fish left out of the fridge, start to stink. So, what is the answer to providing housing for the homeless? Is it, just see if they can survive the streets? into tent cities. http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-05-04-new-homeless_N.htm |
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What with unemployment so high and knowing unemployment insurance won't last forever, where will all the homeless be housed? Don't they, even though they can't afford it deserve free housing as well as health care? In many cases, unemployment insurance doesn't cover all the basics for life. If it covers rent, it surely won't cover all other necessities like auto payments, insurance, clothing, food, utilities, etc. I know for certain a landlord will still want their rent. Banks want their money for home, auto and other loans. Repo. A few will live with other family for a while. But, they will be like fish left out of the fridge, start to stink. So, what is the answer to providing housing for the homeless? Is it, just see if they can survive the streets? The homelessness czar will kill them. |
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More handouts should work. It's worked so well so far. Do you think Unemployment pays people enough to want to be unemployed? Considering that the government keeps extending the benefits ( up to something like 79 weeks now ) and people get 60% ( at least here in Michigan ) of their previous income...some of them would consider sitting around and doing nothing preferable to working. With the way the job market is now....most of those who would prefer to be working have no choice in the matter anyway. Even 60% of min wage isn't much! |
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More handouts should work. It's worked so well so far. Do you think Unemployment pays people enough to want to be unemployed? Considering that the government keeps extending the benefits ( up to something like 79 weeks now ) and people get 60% ( at least here in Michigan ) of their previous income...some of them would consider sitting around and doing nothing preferable to working. With the way the job market is now....most of those who would prefer to be working have no choice in the matter anyway. Even 60% of min wage isn't much! Understood. But you would have to take into account how many of the unemployed were making well above minimum wage. That would be impossible to find out because that kind of stat isn't kept. But all of the unemployed auto workers...I PROMISE you they weren't making minimum wage. For them....sitting around collecting a year and a half of unemployment might be a pretty good deal. |
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It's my understanding, to stay on unemployment, one must be actively seeking employment and turning in reports of job contacts. I wonder how many will be investigated for fraud and cut off?
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It's my understanding, to stay on unemployment, one must be actively seeking employment and turning in reports of job contacts. I wonder how many will be investigated for fraud and cut off? With the economy being what it is....State governments have a lot bigger problems to deal with. |
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Edited by
Atlantis75
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Sat 12/19/09 06:00 PM
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It's my understanding, to stay on unemployment, one must be actively seeking employment and turning in reports of job contacts. I wonder how many will be investigated for fraud and cut off? I just wonder how many never even indicated they are unemployed and also those who stopped seeking a long time ago. You add those numbers to the "official" numbers, you got close to 17% of unemployment in USA, that's 4% short of the great depression of the 1930s, but don't worry (I mean do worry), give it another month and the holiday season ends and watch the numbers go up after various stores and companies go into Chapter 11 after the holidays. http://briansullivan.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2009/11/06/is-the-real-unemployment-rate-17-5/ |
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It's my understanding, to stay on unemployment, one must be actively seeking employment and turning in reports of job contacts. I wonder how many will be investigated for fraud and cut off? I just wonder how many never even indicated they are unemployed and also those who stopped seeking a long time ago. You add those numbers to the "official" numbers, you got close to 17% of unemployment in USA, that's 4% short of the great depression of the 1930s, but don't worry (I mean do worry), give it another month and the holiday season ends and watch the numbers go up after various stores and companies go into Chapter 11 after the holidays. 20% is the number projected for the New Year. And that's just the ones still on the books of being unemployed. |
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More handouts should work. It's worked so well so far. Do you think Unemployment pays people enough to want to be unemployed? Considering that the government keeps extending the benefits ( up to something like 79 weeks now ) and people get 60% ( at least here in Michigan ) of their previous income...some of them would consider sitting around and doing nothing preferable to working. With the way the job market is now....most of those who would prefer to be working have no choice in the matter anyway. Even 60% of min wage isn't much! Understood. But you would have to take into account how many of the unemployed were making well above minimum wage. That would be impossible to find out because that kind of stat isn't kept. But all of the unemployed auto workers...I PROMISE you they weren't making minimum wage. For them....sitting around collecting a year and a half of unemployment might be a pretty good deal. True, but most of them have been paying in unemployment Insurance for years and years. |
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It's my understanding, to stay on unemployment, one must be actively seeking employment and turning in reports of job contacts. I wonder how many will be investigated for fraud and cut off? With the economy being what it is....State governments have a lot bigger problems to deal with. My county ESC office is pretty vigilant on job search history verification. |
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Edited by
willing2
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Sat 12/19/09 06:08 PM
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I have a feeling unemployment insurance won't last as long as folks might want to believe.
Or, they can raise the amount deducted from the folks still working. I don't suppose those still employed would mind. |
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More handouts should work. It's worked so well so far. Do you think Unemployment pays people enough to want to be unemployed? Considering that the government keeps extending the benefits ( up to something like 79 weeks now ) and people get 60% ( at least here in Michigan ) of their previous income...some of them would consider sitting around and doing nothing preferable to working. With the way the job market is now....most of those who would prefer to be working have no choice in the matter anyway. Even 60% of min wage isn't much! Understood. But you would have to take into account how many of the unemployed were making well above minimum wage. That would be impossible to find out because that kind of stat isn't kept. But all of the unemployed auto workers...I PROMISE you they weren't making minimum wage. For them....sitting around collecting a year and a half of unemployment might be a pretty good deal. True, but most of them have been paying in unemployment Insurance for years and years. As far as I know...the employee doesn't pay into that fund. The employer does. |
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They match it!
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They match it! Ah ok. |
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More handouts should work. It's worked so well so far. Do you think Unemployment pays people enough to want to be unemployed? Considering that the government keeps extending the benefits ( up to something like 79 weeks now ) and people get 60% ( at least here in Michigan ) of their previous income...some of them would consider sitting around and doing nothing preferable to working. With the way the job market is now....most of those who would prefer to be working have no choice in the matter anyway. Even 60% of min wage isn't much! Understood. But you would have to take into account how many of the unemployed were making well above minimum wage. That would be impossible to find out because that kind of stat isn't kept. But all of the unemployed auto workers...I PROMISE you they weren't making minimum wage. For them....sitting around collecting a year and a half of unemployment might be a pretty good deal. True, but most of them have been paying in unemployment Insurance for years and years. As far as I know...the employee doesn't pay into that fund. The employer does. Like I suggested. Just deduct more from those still employed. |
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They match it! That depends on what kind of an IRA or unemployment benefits the company carry. Remind you, most people in USA don't have unemployment or retirement funds whatsoever. |
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They can come to my house, we'll put cots up and grow a garden..communal living.  Have you ever opened your home to the homeless before? To some extent, I have. The things you learn! |
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Do you think Unemployment pays people enough to want to be unemployed? I know for a fact that there are many, many people out there, in California, who avoid paid work like the plague, because it would reduce or eliminate various benefits they get from the government. This includes people on unemployment, people on 'fake' disability, people on the crazy check - even people on welfare and GR. I am definitely not conservative, but too often the institutionalized form of some 'liberal' ideas of 'helping others' actually harms them - makes them dependent, encourages them to feel incapable, encourages them to prefer not-working over working. |
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Even 60% of min wage isn't much! True, but they change the way they live, they get used to it, and when they run out of the time period for that 60% many of them will do it all over again - get used to an even lower standard of living, and suckle from the government teat in other ways. |
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