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Topic: "Complicated Man"
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Fri 12/04/09 11:02 AM


Wondering what kind of writing you do?


Three books, so far -- sci-fi stuff.



Why not romance novels?

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Fri 12/04/09 11:13 AM

FRIENDS...REAL FRIENDS...abandon you after a traffic accident...DUI, killed someone, what? I don't get it?


Neither did I -- I don't drink, so no DUI -- bad luck, really, I made a turn and was momentarily blinded by the sun and ran into a truck. Nobody was hurt but me, and I was messed up pretty badly. They were talking about back surgery and all kinds of miserable stuff.

All of my so-called "friends" vanished right after that.

The only people who stuck around and were here for me were the people on this site.

And THAT'S one reason I've been here as long as I have....







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Fri 12/04/09 11:15 AM



Wondering what kind of writing you do?


Three books, so far -- sci-fi stuff.



Why not romance novels?


You know what they say -- "write what you know."


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Fri 12/04/09 11:16 AM
Everybody is complicated in some way.

If we were simple creatures there would be no need for dating site...lol

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Fri 12/04/09 11:18 AM
Sorry to hear about your accident

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Fri 12/04/09 11:38 AM

Sorry to hear about your accident


Thanks -- it was almost a year ago, and I'm pretty much recovered -- it didn't do much for my faith in mankind, though -- !!

shades

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Fri 12/04/09 11:42 AM


Sorry to hear about your accident


Thanks -- it was almost a year ago, and I'm pretty much recovered -- it didn't do much for my faith in mankind, though -- !!

shades

I had an accident while I was in the Army.. Messed up my right knee, broken bones in my right ankle, 3 dislocated vertibre, ruptured right eard drum, and fractured my skull... I know what its like to be messed up and people leave you becuase of some physical set backs

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Fri 12/04/09 12:15 PM



Sorry to hear about your accident


Thanks -- it was almost a year ago, and I'm pretty much recovered -- it didn't do much for my faith in mankind, though -- !!

shades

I had an accident while I was in the Army.. Messed up my right knee, broken bones in my right ankle, 3 dislocated vertibre, ruptured right eard drum, and fractured my skull... I know what its like to be messed up and people leave you becuase of some physical set backs


I think the thing that surprised me was that it was EVERYBODY all at the same time -- I've spent my whole life being Supportive Guy, the one people would always come to for help, and I got very comfortable in that role -- but when things changed and I was the one who was going to need some help, everyone disappeared.

It taught me something about the nature of the people I had become "friends" with, and it taught me something about my own inability to make good choices about who to deal with.

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Fri 12/04/09 01:50 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Fri 12/04/09 01:51 PM



Sorry to hear about your accident


Thanks -- it was almost a year ago, and I'm pretty much recovered -- it didn't do much for my faith in mankind, though -- !!

shades

I had an accident while I was in the Army.. Messed up my right knee, broken bones in my right ankle, 3 dislocated vertibre, ruptured right eard drum, and fractured my skull... I know what its like to be messed up and people leave you becuase of some physical set backs


I twisted my ankle on a forced-march mission, it was almost completely dark and marched on a rocky road..with rocks the size of my fist. I mistepped so bad that back at the end of the formation they heard the snapping sound, which was my ankle.

My ankle grew to a size of a watermelon..I was taken to the hospital..they said it didn't fracture but it went out of the place really bad..they fixed me though.

Ever since then, I can't run more than 2 miles..even though I used to run 5 miles , 3 times a week. Now if I run that 2 miles, I'll be hurting for a week after...

After this incident I decided not to sign up for more years..6 was enough.

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Fri 12/04/09 04:14 PM
Maybe they mean complex, that is different and a good thing.
You can be complex and not complicated.

The two are often mistaken for each other.

As long as you aren't incorrigible.

People trying to understand others complexities, whys and such is highly over rated and it is usually a loosing "battle".

Enjoy being unique and interesting.

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Fri 12/04/09 04:27 PM


FRIENDS...REAL FRIENDS...abandon you after a traffic accident...DUI, killed someone, what? I don't get it?


Neither did I -- I don't drink, so no DUI -- bad luck, really, I made a turn and was momentarily blinded by the sun and ran into a truck. Nobody was hurt but me, and I was messed up pretty badly. They were talking about back surgery and all kinds of miserable stuff.

All of my so-called "friends" vanished right after that.

The only people who stuck around and were here for me were the people on this site.

And THAT'S one reason I've been here as long as I have....


Wow...I still don't understand? All your friends desert you - vanished - over an accident that hurt only you...no drinking...nothing? What was their emotional investment? What was their loss? People who hate vehicle abuse? It's bizarre? I mean, even a sci-fi writer couldn't come up with something more out there...maybe they were all abducted? Sorry, but if those were friends...you have suffered no loss.




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Fri 12/04/09 04:46 PM

Someone referred to me as a "complicated man" in another thread not too long ago. The truth is, I've heard this a number of times before, and I'm not sure I understand the intent behind the words....

When I think of the term "complicated," it brings to mind something intricate, difficult to comprehend, multi-layered, intrinsically enigmatic. I might be a little biased here, but I don't see myself as being any of those things.

I'm just a guy who writes books -- everything else I do is pretty much just the normal stuff that lots of other people do.

Maybe it's just easier to write someone off as "complicated" rather than getting to know them....? I don't know, it just sounds like a reflexive knee-jerk excuse to me....on the order of "Oh, you're too nice" or "You're too good of a person for me."

It's hard to make an assessment of something you never take the time to learn anything about....




No offense but,it seems to me you are making things complicated for yourself.If people would spent all the energy they spend on worrying about what people think about them,into themselves,the World would be a better place.....

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Sat 12/05/09 07:59 AM
"Maybe "complicated" is just another euphemism for "unapproachable" and "intimidating." Which is kind of sad..."

This sentence shows you're getting what I think it all is.

In my experience, people say all KINDS of things they don't mean, and often don't even understand themselves. It's because they haven't learned well enough how to express themselves clearly, so they replay a canned answer they heard somewhere else. 'Complicated' could mean the things you mentioned above, or any number of other things, even including that you are complicated relative to them, BECAUSE YOU ARE SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD. I've run into that one more than once myself, being told that because I communicate freely and openly without any gaming, that I put them off. They are so experienced and comfortable with oblique comments and hidden agendas, that NO running into them with you, confuses them.

I saw a GREAT cartoon a long time ago, a series of panels showing a bench full of guys ogling attractive well dressed women as they walked by, each time imagining (thought bubble above their heads) the woman as she might look naked. Then an ACTUAL naked woman walks by. Their thought bubbles all vanish in a poof, they all look confused and annoyed, until she passes on by. Then another fully clothed woman comes by, and they are smiling and fantasizing her naked again.
So my advice is, don't over think it. Could mean anything, could mean nothing at all. And I'm SURE it has nothing to do with your facility with words, other than that you might use too many words they don't know, and it makes them feel confused. Compare "I want to rip your clothes off and DO you right here!" with "Having engendered a strong positive reaction from your visual appearance, and as I do have sufficient previous experience to be confident of a positive outcome should you tolerate and support my following actions: I will reduce your outer garment layers sufficiently to provide for skin-to-skin contact along a large number of areas,..."
I would not at ALL be surprised to hear a woman respond to the second statement with "you're a very complicated man to deal with."

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Sat 12/05/09 08:17 AM

Maybe they mean complex, that is different and a good thing.
You can be complex and not complicated.

The two are often mistaken for each other.

As long as you aren't incorrigible.

People trying to understand others complexities, whys and such is highly over rated and it is usually a loosing "battle".

Enjoy being unique and interesting.



I'd like to think I do enjoy it!

Just having a difficult time understanding why so many others feel the need to build a smokescreen around it.

what

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Sat 12/05/09 08:30 AM

"Maybe "complicated" is just another euphemism for "unapproachable" and "intimidating." Which is kind of sad..."

This sentence shows you're getting what I think it all is.

In my experience, people say all KINDS of things they don't mean, and often don't even understand themselves. It's because they haven't learned well enough how to express themselves clearly, so they replay a canned answer they heard somewhere else. 'Complicated' could mean the things you mentioned above, or any number of other things, even including that you are complicated relative to them, BECAUSE YOU ARE SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD. I've run into that one more than once myself, being told that because I communicate freely and openly without any gaming, that I put them off. They are so experienced and comfortable with oblique comments and hidden agendas, that NO running into them with you, confuses them.


That's an excellent point, and I think it ties in well with my theory of "Law of Opposites" and the "Domesticatrix Agenda" I've been trying to avoid for the last x number of centuries.

I don't really have any particular interest in being "complicated" or "non-complicated" -- those are just adjectives, and they convey such a limited meaning here that they're really no more descriptive than "nice" or "not nice," relative to the phraseology of the person offering the description....the difference being that "complicated" apparently doubles as a pre-constructed roadblock, a built-in justification for some people to make negative assumptions.

I mean, I see a lot of women's profiles claiming to be looking for a "nice guy" (again, just words -- that's not really what they're looking for, but there's a sort of "social stigma" [if such a thing can be said to exist on a more-or-less anonymous dating site] that demands one never appear shallow or superficial), but no one ever seems to be looking for a "complicated guy."


I saw a GREAT cartoon a long time ago, a series of panels showing a bench full of guys ogling attractive well dressed women as they walked by, each time imagining (thought bubble above their heads) the woman as she might look naked. Then an ACTUAL naked woman walks by. Their thought bubbles all vanish in a poof, they all look confused and annoyed, until she passes on by. Then another fully clothed woman comes by, and they are smiling and fantasizing her naked again.
So my advice is, don't over think it. Could mean anything, could mean nothing at all. And I'm SURE it has nothing to do with your facility with words, other than that you might use too many words they don't know, and it makes them feel confused. Compare "I want to rip your clothes off and DO you right here!" with "Having engendered a strong positive reaction from your visual appearance, and as I do have sufficient previous experience to be confident of a positive outcome should you tolerate and support my following actions: I will reduce your outer garment layers sufficiently to provide for skin-to-skin contact along a large number of areas,..."
I would not at ALL be surprised to hear a woman respond to the second statement with "you're a very complicated man to deal with."


It has been my experience that most women seem to be looking for a guy who is docile, easily led and controlled, and who will blindly fall into a traditional husband/father role without even having to think about it.

It's this apparent desire for a non-thinker that has me bamboozled.

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Sat 12/05/09 08:33 AM


FRIENDS...REAL FRIENDS...abandon you after a traffic accident...DUI, killed someone, what? I don't get it?


Neither did I -- I don't drink, so no DUI -- bad luck, really, I made a turn and was momentarily blinded by the sun and ran into a truck. Nobody was hurt but me, and I was messed up pretty badly. They were talking about back surgery and all kinds of miserable stuff.

All of my so-called "friends" vanished right after that.

The only people who stuck around and were here for me were the people on this site.

And THAT'S one reason I've been here as long as I have....







So in other words,,,WE HAVE YOUR BACK,,,wink,Lil,lol
Lov ya Man....:wink: laugh :banana:



as to YOU being complicated,,,so WHAT,,,,we our ALL, complicated
to someone else's life,,,as WE can't be THEM,,,,and MANY,,,,,see
that as complicated,,,,hell Lex look at me,,
I've been told I read like a book!!!
Problem is,,,I have no idea who the Arthur is?????

Your a little negative, your very opinionated, and a bit self centered,,,,,,BUT THAT DON"T MAKE YA BAD!!!
Just Human,,,,,and OK, maybe a tad bit complicated,,,lol,lol,lol
But all that,,,,has made us lov your friendship and the YOU that YOU ARE!!!!drinker

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Sat 12/05/09 08:42 AM
There is absolutely nothing "COMPLEX" about you LEX!bigsmile

It's those that consider you "complicated" who has the real issues...and it's call "SELF-CONFIDENCE" which in turn, creates insecurity within themselves when approaching someone they consider "unapproachable"...JMOglasses

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Sat 12/05/09 09:03 AM

So in other words,,,WE HAVE YOUR BACK,,,wink,Lil,lol
Lov ya Man....:wink: laugh :banana:

as to YOU being complicated,,,so WHAT,,,,we our ALL, complicated
to someone else's life,,,as WE can't be THEM,,,,and MANY,,,,,see
that as complicated,,,,hell Lex look at me,,
I've been told I read like a book!!!
Problem is,,,I have no idea who the Arthur is?????

Your a little negative, your very opinionated, and a bit self centered,,,,,,BUT THAT DON"T MAKE YA BAD!!!
Just Human,,,,,and OK, maybe a tad bit complicated,,,lol,lol,lol
But all that,,,,has made us lov your friendship and the YOU that YOU ARE!!!!drinker


Thanks, Terry!

shades

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Sat 12/05/09 09:07 AM

There is absolutely nothing "COMPLEX" about you LEX!bigsmile


I really don't think so, either, but....I don't function well as a cardboard cutout and I think some people have a hard time comprehending that....!


It's those that consider you "complicated" who has the real issues...and it's call "SELF-CONFIDENCE" which in turn, creates insecurity within themselves when approaching someone they consider "unapproachable"...JMOglasses


The dilemma -- they say they want a "confident" guy, but when one comes along, he's suddenly "unapproachable." I really think the problem lies in the fact that so many people can't or won't articulate what it is they REALLY want.

shades

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