so are you saying that pride is the reason you don't follow the bible...can you explain how

How come no matter how many time some yahoo decides to make the challenge "can you prove God to me?" there are pages of posts.

There is really only one answer for such a challenge.

No why do you ask?

Actually this has been a responce and the OP actually said
"then why do you believe?"

Now tell me - do ya really think that person is going to believe any story you have to tell them????

You guys crack me up - especially those of you that have been posting here as long as I have.

Ya still gotta answer, don't ya?

Actually I was taking a break from studying and I haven't been to this forum for a while - just wanted to stop in and say HEY to some folks I haven't seen is while.

HEY!

if you have read the bible or atleast parts of it which i'm assuming you have cause you have some knowledge of what's in it, then i can see why you don't believe in God. I was infering that quite a few people have to much pride to live for someone or something else, and follow the rules laid in front of them. Alot feels that they have turned 18 or have become an adult and they can do what they want when they want, and don't follow the bible because it is like having a perent or an adult tell you not to do, or to do certain things. That is where pride comes in, people think well this is my life so i'll just do what ever i want and no one can tell me any different.

Cowboy..isn't that supposedly what believers claim is "Free Will" ..now your placing "Free Will" into the same realm as arrogancy and thus making "Free Will" a sin that God has bestold upon his believers

Free will can be used for either sin or Uplifting God's name. Is a great thing at the same time as being a curse at times. It will save alot and it will destroy alot. That's what life is about choosing what you want your will to be for, will of God or will of the Devil. There is no inbetween. When people do good they are doing the will of God, and when people do bad, they are doing the will of the Devil.

Our life is a test, there wouldn't be much of a test without free will.

Cowboy...as you pointed out "Free Will" is nothing more than making a decision...and as I pointed out..animals can make a decision

why would God need to test

yes i understand that, i just don't get your point of why you brought that up.

I don't know exactly what his whole plan is or was for having us on this earth. You'll have to ask him after you pass away. As far as i know it does not specifically state why we are here in the bible.

in the hopes that you will realize that it's called making a decision and not "Free Will"

if God is omniscient...he would have no need to test...wouldn't he already know the outcome

that just helps me there funches, you have the free will to make a descision.

Oh but it does specifically so state.

on day 6 he did tell us...male and female.

GO FORTH AND FILL THE EARTH.

not much of a task... It only took us a few thousand years to do.

also i took a walk and thought about our dscussion and thought about everything i knew in the bible. And for your question on why we would need a test. Our test is to prove to the devil or how powerful and great God is. It all started with adam and Eve. If adam and eve would not have eaten that fruit then we wouldn't have this test we would live in paradise as they were. When adam and eve ate of that fruit we were cursed and punished for disobeying God. I don't know exactly of all the punishments that came of it, but i do know one of them, and that was bareing children. If adam and eve did not eat of that fruit we would never know what death was neither. And why we our lives are a test to show the devil God is all powerful and great, because that is why the devil is in hell. He was an angel that thought he was more powerful and could do the job better then God. Again with pride being a big part of this, the devil still today has the pride in himself to think God will not win. Devil knows what the bible states bout the end of times, but does not believe God is powerful enough....... in the end of times the devil, all his minions, and everyone that went to hell will cease to exist because God will destroy hell and everything in it. But to sum it all up, our life is a test to show who we believe is greater God or the Devil.

nope! There ARE many MANY proofs that there IS a God(not A God but THE God) ..no doubt about it, but even with all the facts and other proofs, noone can convince you unless you want to open your eyes and heart to the truth, so i say no, noone can prove anything to anyone, unless they are willing to believe! Thats what Faith is! BUT if you cant look around you and see just the splender of the world God created and your own life as well and believe...well.....

yes but we have a spiritual test as well. Physically speaking yes fill the earth, but that's not the test just what we are suppose to do during our test. Our test is weather we believe God is more great or the devil. Not verbally exactly, but with our actions. Who we do our things in the name of. Eg., weather we sin against God uplifting the devil and showing that's who we follow, or not sinning and doing God's will showing that's who we think is Greater and more beautiful.

yes very true thanks sweetsimple.:)

Our God is about Faith, if you open your heat and mind and let him in then he will reveal himself to you. But you have to make the first step of allowing him in.

Cowboy...the story of "JOB" contradicts that...because in that story it was God trying to prove how powerful and great he was to Satan ..

Tests - oh yea, so that's where the idea came from to throw your in the water to teach them to swim. The ideas we pick up from our Fathers... my goodness.