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Topic: can anybody prove to me a GOD??
Shasta1 Joined Wed 09/09/09 Posts: 3308	Sat 05/08/10 09:30 PM
It's all about free will. You choose to beleive or you don't. There are signs all around you...if you take the time...say one hour one day, you'll understand. Now after what you decide to beleive is totally out of mosts realm. Actually all, as we all get connected in different ways. Same thing goes for what we think will happen to us after this planet. Apologies if sound like I know how it goes, just my beliefs.

JaneStar1 Joined Tue 06/30/09 Posts: 1580	Sat 05/08/10 10:04 PM
Actualy, Shasta1, your might be quite right: Everyone will get according to her/his beliefs Thus, if some believe they will turn into dust, then that's exactly what they will turn into! I only hope my preyers of becomming a Queen of England won't fall onto the deaf ears!!!

worldbound220 Joined Fri 05/07/10 Posts: 46	Sun 05/09/10 12:28 AM Edited by worldbound220 on Sun 05/09/10 01:01 AM
just realized how...inappropriate the comment was i apologise to anyone who was offended and i have removed it from this forum, again my apologies

s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Sun 05/09/10 01:56 AM
Nope, and that goes for the easter bunny, and several others too I once tried to prove Santa did not exist but he kept turning up on street corners ringing bells. http://www.themadmusicarchive.com/song_details.aspx?SongID=10310

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 05/09/10 07:34 AM
Nope, and that goes for the easter bunny, and several others too I once tried to prove Santa did not exist but he kept turning up on street corners ringing bells. http://www.themadmusicarchive.com/song_details.aspx?SongID=10310

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 05/09/10 07:36 AM Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 05/09/10 07:37 AM
It's all about free will. You choose to beleive or you don't. There are signs all around you...if you take the time...say one hour one day, you'll understand. Now after what you decide to beleive is totally out of mosts realm. Actually all, as we all get connected in different ways. Same thing goes for what we think will happen to us after this planet. Apologies if sound like I know how it goes, just my beliefs. Bingo. Free will. To believe or not to believe. Don't apologize for your beliefs.... or your free will. (Thank God or it? .... )

JaneStar1 Joined Tue 06/30/09 Posts: 1580	Tue 05/11/10 11:25 PM
In any case, God won't miss your devotion. He's got enough suckers devoted to him! ! !

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Tue 05/11/10 11:36 PM
silly question,,,how can one prove in text the existence of anyone, other than with words (which never serve as enough proof to a non believer,,,) i cant prove to you my mother still lives,,,I could show her on a cama, but that wouldnt be proof she was my mother,, I could show a birth certificate and that would still only be proof of what my mothers name was,,,,but in text,,,? nah,,, hard to really prove much of anything

JaneStar1 Joined Tue 06/30/09 Posts: 1580	Tue 05/11/10 11:53 PM
EXACTLY! Which only proves the point that God is a product of our imagination!!!

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Tue 05/11/10 11:57 PM
isnt everything?

JaneStar1 Joined Tue 06/30/09 Posts: 1580	Wed 05/12/10 12:08 AM
Certainly. We've learnt interpreting the mirracle that happen to us, and attribute them to our own doing! (which, actually, is how it really is)!!!

Abracadabra Joined Thu 04/12/07 Posts: 17851	Wed 05/12/10 12:11 AM
silly question,,,how can one prove in text the existence of anyone, other than with words (which never serve as enough proof to a non believer,,,) i cant prove to you my mother still lives,,,I could show her on a cama, but that wouldnt be proof she was my mother,, I could show a birth certificate and that would still only be proof of what my mothers name was,,,,but in text,,,? nah,,, hard to really prove much of anything Funny you should suggest this, because when it comes to believing in the Bible, that's precisely all we have is text. That entirely what it amounts to: placing FAITH in text. In fact, what I honestly don't understand is why anyone would even want to place their faith in a story that demands that we are quilty of falling from grace from our creator and that he had to have his only begotten son crucified to pay for OUR sins. Why would anyone even WANT to place their faith in such a horrid idea? I most certainly wouldn't want to have FAITH that such a story is true. It's a horrible story that places me at odds with my creator and holds me responsible for his need to desperately sacrifice his son to pay for my pitfalls. Why would I want to have FAITH that such a horrible story is true? I would rather have FAITH that the whole thing is a totaly fabrication and I'm not at odds with my creator, and I'm not responsible for forcing my creator to make any horrible sacrificies on my behalf. The whole biblical story is really nothing more than asking people to have FAITH that they are at odds with their creator and need to repent. Why would anyone WANT to have faith in that based on nothing more than text? That's crazy. And it's obvious that the text isn't even clear. Only the Christian version of this mythology makes the claim of God having to sacrifice his only begotten son. And that's just a spin-off from Judaism and Islam, neither of which even recognize Jesus as the sacrifical lamb of Yahweh. Peresonally I'd rather have faith in Easter Mysicism. I mean, if I'm going to place my FAITH in something why not place it in something POSITIVE? Even the Wiccan Moon Goddess would be a far more positive story to place our FAITH in. At least it's a POSITIVE story that doesn't place at at odds with our creator just because we happen to be HUMAN. What sense does that even make anyway? We'd be better off being monkeys. Then at least we wouldn't be at odds with our creator!

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 05/12/10 12:15 AM
My faith in God is obviously personal, as is my perspective. If I saw him as some horrid abhorretion demanding unjust violence and death,,,I would probably have difficulty reconciling such faith. But , from my perspective, HE is just and forgiving and generous, My faith in him is my expression of LOVE for him because I am not capable of the miracles and blessings he has given as an expression of Love for me.

fifijones Joined Wed 02/24/10 Posts: 1418	Wed 05/12/10 12:24 AM
Just use your eyes and ears, and experience the spiraling insanity all around you on this wonderful planet, which is just a tiny bitty speck of nothing, floating in space. Every single star, the light of which took a very long time to arrive here, is another whole solar system, or at least there is a chance there is a new solar system around each. First of all, not only are you yourself here and alive now in this wonderful time, but you have an entire planet of potential new friends to meet...or not. Secondly, this entire planet is home to a nearly unlimited amount of other forms of life, from plants and algae, to animals and birds. You don't have to even be able to read the Bible (or any book) to know that there is a God. Just look around and think about it. Something had to start all of this. Sure, random chance could have done it, but the chances are so infinitesimally small, that Occam's Razor eliminates that as the cause of it all. (I think it's Occam's Razor anyway) I don't believe in Occam's Razor. Just cuz one thing is simpler than another doesn't make it truer.

JaneStar1 Joined Tue 06/30/09 Posts: 1580	Wed 05/12/10 12:25 AM
My God, that's really profound, Abra!!! You touched on one of the "Acheles' foot" of the Christianity!!! *************************************************************** Now, you better repent, you sinner!!!

fifijones Joined Wed 02/24/10 Posts: 1418	Wed 05/12/10 12:25 AM
If you can prove that God exists, then faith cannot exist. Does faith exist?

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 05/12/10 12:30 AM
If you can prove that God exists, then faith cannot exist. Does faith exist? absolutely,, i am confident that God exists, I cannot prove it to someone else and would not try,,,,,God does not have to beg for acceptance or aknowledgement as he is not here to serve us,,but rather the other way around,,,,,,because I cannot PROVE God to someone else,,,,my faith stands as proof enough for ME

fifijones Joined Wed 02/24/10 Posts: 1418	Wed 05/12/10 12:34 AM
If you can prove that God exists, then faith cannot exist. Does faith exist? absolutely,, i am confident that God exists, I cannot prove it to someone else and would not try,,,,,God does not have to beg for acceptance or aknowledgement as he is not here to serve us,,but rather the other way around,,,,,,because I cannot PROVE God to someone else,,,,my faith stands as proof enough for ME I believe God values our leap of faith to acknowledge his existence; I believe he values it quite highly.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 05/12/10 12:36 AM
If you can prove that God exists, then faith cannot exist. Does faith exist? absolutely,, i am confident that God exists, I cannot prove it to someone else and would not try,,,,,God does not have to beg for acceptance or aknowledgement as he is not here to serve us,,but rather the other way around,,,,,,because I cannot PROVE God to someone else,,,,my faith stands as proof enough for ME I believe God values our leap of faith to acknowledge his existence; I believe he values it quite highly. I agree

JaneStar1 Joined Tue 06/30/09 Posts: 1580	Wed 05/12/10 01:07 AM
If I repent just before passing away, he'd have no choice but accept me into heaven anyway!!! So what's the use of depriving myself of the earthly pleasures???