http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091129/ap_on_re_eu/eu_switzerland_m inaret_ban

Swiss ban mosque minarets in surprise vote

By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS, Associated Press Writer Alexander G. Higgins, Associated Press Writer – 30 mins ago

GENEVA – Swiss voters overwhelmingly approved a constitutional ban on minarets on Sunday, barring construction of the iconic mosque towers in a surprise vote that put Switzerland at the forefront of a European backlash against a growing Muslim population.

Muslim groups in Switzerland and abroad condemned the vote as biased and anti-Islamic. Business groups said the decision hurt Switzerland's international standing and could damage relations with Muslim nations and wealthy investors who bank, travel and shop there.

"The Swiss have failed to give a clear signal for diversity, freedom of religion and human rights," said Omar Al-Rawi, integration representative of the Islamic Denomination in Austria, which said its reaction was "grief and deep disappointment."

The referendum by the nationalist Swiss People's Party labeled minarets as symbols of rising Muslim political power that could one day transform Switzerland into an Islamic nation. The initiative was approved 57.5 to 42.5 percent by some 2.67 million voters. Only four of the 26 cantons or states opposed the initiative, granting the double approval that makes it part of the Swiss constitution.

Muslims comprise about 6 percent of Switzerland's 7.5 million people. Many are refugees from the Yugoslav wars of the 1990s and about one in 10 actively practices their religion, the government says.

The country's four standing minarets, which won't be affected by the ban, do not traditionally broadcast the call to prayer outside their own buildings.

The sponsors of the initiative provoked complaints of bias from local officials and human-rights group with campaign posters that showed minarets rising like missiles from the Swiss flag next to a fully veiled woman. Backers said the growing Muslim population was straining the country "because Muslims don't just practice religion."

"The minaret is a sign of political power and demand, comparable with whole-body covering by the burqa, tolerance of forced marriage and genital mutilation of girls," the sponsors said. They noted that Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has compared mosques to Islam's military barracks and called "the minarets our bayonets."

Anxieties about growing Muslim minorities have rippled across Europe in recent years, leading to legal changes in some countries. There have been French moves to ban the full-length body covering known as the burqa. Some German states have introduced bans on head scarves for Muslim women teaching in public schools. Mosques and minaret construction projects in Sweden, France, Italy, Austria, Greece, Germany and Slovenia have been met by protests.

But the Swiss ban in minarets, sponsored by the country's largest political party, was one of the most extreme reactions.

"It's a sad day for freedom of religion," said Mohammed Shafiq, the chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, a British youth organization. "A constitutional amendment that's targeted towards one religious community is discriminatory and abhorrent."

He said he was concerned the decision could have reverberations in other European countries.

Amnesty International said the vote violated freedom of religion and would probably be overturned by the Swiss supreme court or the European Court of Human Rights.

The seven-member Cabinet that heads the Swiss government had spoken out strongly against the initiative but the government said it accepted the vote and would impose an immediate ban on minaret construction.

It said that "Muslims in Switzerland are able to practice their religion alone or in community with others, and live according to their beliefs just as before." It took the unusual step of issuing its press release in Arabic as well as German, French, Italian and English.

Sunday's results stood in stark contrast to opinion polls, last taken 10 days ago, that showed 37 percent supporting the proposal. Experts said before the vote that they feared Swiss had pretended during the polling that they opposed the ban because they didn't want to appear intolerant.

"The sponsors of the ban have achieved something everyone wanted to prevent, and that is to influence and change the relations to Muslims and their social integration in a negative way," said Taner Hatipoglu, president of the Federation of Islamic Organizations in Zurich. "Muslims indeed will not feel safe anymore."

The People's Party has campaigned mainly unsuccessfully in previous years against immigrants with campaign posters showing white sheep kicking a black sheep off the Swiss flag and another with brown hands grabbing eagerly for Swiss passports.

Geneva's main mosque was vandalized Thursday when someone threw a pot of pink paint at the entrance. Earlier this month, a vehicle with a loudspeaker drove through the area imitating a muezzin's call to prayer, and vandals damaged a mosaic when they threw cobblestones at the building.

Be sure to ban the Crucifixes and Star of David too, all religious symbols.
Whats good for the Goose is good for the Gander!

How is this seeing the light again?

I'm not religious by any means, but I do support the right of others to be. How the hell can this be deemed acceptable? I mean, it's just architecture and in America and other non-muslim modern nations, it is rare to have a call to prayer that is not inside the mosque only over a sound system.

Switzerland is a different country in a different continent with a different mentality and a fairly homogenous culture and tradtion.

It's been Switzerland and independent since 1291.AD from the Habsburg Empire , but the Swiss culture reaches back to 53BC during the time of the Roman Empire.

The Swiss also have an entirely different type of political system than many and they haven't been in a war for 700 years, which is impressive. They managed to stay out of both world wars as well as never participated in any armed conflict ever since.

United States, unlike Switzerland or other European countries, is a multicultural country, first occupided by Native Americans and later settlers coming from all over the world made it the way it is today.

The size of Switzerland is about the size of the state Maryland and only 7.8 million people live there calling themselves Swiss. That's less than the population of New York City, which is 10 million. They have the right to preserve their culture and tradition, due to the size and the population.

United States Population today is about 370 million people with all colors and types of people coming from everyhwere.

It is really comparing apples to oranges

This I can definitely agree with. I just don't feel that preservation of your culture should require you to pick on those that are different. It's not like these buildings will change the entire lifestyle of the nation (though it will change the landscape a bit... that I can see an issue in but I believe in the rights of the individual so I'm a little biased here and still find this wrong.)

and part of the problem is that when Muslims move to America they become Americans. still Muslims but they integrate into American culture

when Muslims move to European countries for some reason they dont and they retain their identity as Lebanese. or Iranian, or Turkish or whatever. They don't become Swiss or French or English

so there is a lot of alienation and segregation between them and their host country population

hmmmm... never thought of that. I'm just going to shut up because I'm really showing my ignorance applying our standards to these other nations.

back when they were rioting in France I read a really good analysis on the STRATFOR website about that subject

STRATFOR is an intel analysis group. They provide socio-political analysis for companies going into other countries. Costs thousands and thousands of dollars for the complete reports but they put summaries and teasers on their web site that are available to the general public

EDIT:oh. I checked the site. Its gotten much cheaper

Although unfortunate backlash of this sort was bound to happen and will probally get worse.

Until the islamic community takes concrete action against those within it that seek to sow violence they will continue to receive backlash from other communities that are most likely fed up with forcing of islam by force.

Sooo...

I reckon they best start stomping on the militant factions within their communities if they wish to be a part of the world community.