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Topic: What constitutes being delusional?
creativesoul's photo
Thu 11/26/09 09:27 PM
huh

causality's photo
Thu 11/26/09 09:30 PM
Edited by causality on Thu 11/26/09 09:31 PM
I'm pretty sure seeing reality the way that it really is would count as delusional behavior. Given that is indeed the case as well as some of these other normal (yet delusional) behaviors: hearing voices, talking to oneself, visual hallucinations, and paranoia; (More paranoia than is normally usual) since all of these and more that I didn't bother to mention are both delusional and normal at the same time, the whole thread's question seems rather irrelevant.

Ladylid2012's photo
Thu 11/26/09 09:33 PM
I'm thinking something such as this would be wide open to one's perception.

creativesoul's photo
Thu 11/26/09 09:33 PM
Irrelevant to what?

NovaRoma's photo
Thu 11/26/09 10:37 PM
Delusional is a psychiatric term that has a very clear definition.

Delusional disorder, as defined in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition (DSM-IV), refers to a group of conditions in which the central feature is the presence of delusions in the absence of other symptoms.


Subtypes of Delusional Disorder

Erotomanic Delusional Disorder:
Believes that a person of usually higher status is in love with them.

Grandiose Delusional Disorder:
Has delusions of inflated worth, power, knowledge, identity, or special relationships.

Jealous:
Believes the sexual partner is unfaithful

Persecutory Delusional Disorder:
Believes they or someone they are close to is being maltreated

Somatic Delusional Disorder:
Believes they have a physical problem, defect, or illness.

Mixed type of Delusional Disorder:
More than one of the previous types is present.


Diagnostic Criteria of Delusional Disorder

Nonbizarre delusions (i.e., involving situations that occur in real life, such as being followed, poisoned, infected, loved at a distance, or deceived by spouse or lover, or having a disease) of at least 1 month's duration.

Criterion A for Schizophrenia has never been met. Note: Tactile and olfactory hallucinations may be present in Delusional Disorder if they are related to the delusional theme.

Criterion A of Schizophrenia requires two (or more) of the following, each present for a significant portion of time during a 1-month period (or less if successfully treated):

delusions
hallucinations
disorganized speech (e.g., frequent derailment or incoherence)
grossly disorganized or catatonic behavior
negative symptoms, i.e., affective flattening, alogia, or avolition

Apart from the impact of the delusion(s) or its ramifications, functioning is not markedly impaired and behavior is not obviously odd or bizarre.

Dan99's photo
Thu 11/26/09 10:40 PM
A man with a beard thinking he makes an attractive transexual

Ladylid2012's photo
Thu 11/26/09 10:41 PM
I meditate and pray for universal peace... I have been told I'm delusional.
I would think all would, if they looked find someone they believed to be delusional..

causality's photo
Thu 11/26/09 10:42 PM
well, I mean that delusional to one person is sanity to another, of course there is the medical definition as well.

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 11/27/09 12:02 AM

well, I mean that delusional to one person is sanity to another, of course there is the medical definition as well.


yep..and I'd rather be happy and peaceful and considered delusional by some
than miserable and pissed off.. and considered by some..not delusional.

no photo
Fri 11/27/09 04:21 AM

What constitutes being delusional?


faith

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 11/27/09 05:06 AM


What constitutes being delusional?


faith


exactly my point...faith, which is something so important to some comes off as delusional to others. We are all delusional, in some way, to some one.
I don't think anyone is...what ever works for ya, to each their own.

no photo
Fri 11/27/09 06:15 AM



What constitutes being delusional?


faith


exactly my point...faith, which is something so important to some comes off as delusional to others. We are all delusional, in some way, to some one.
I don't think anyone is...what ever works for ya, to each their own.


faith provides a haven where delusion is acceptable and where it can fester and go undiagnosed, in fact the concept of faith relies on delusion to even exist as a concept

the equation is ...the more faith/religion one has the more delusional their actions will be and the more they will become isolated from society

jrbogie's photo
Fri 11/27/09 06:29 AM

huh


in psychiatry one is diagnosed as delusional when he/she holds strongly to a belief in a concept in spite of evidence that supports an alternative concept.

jrbogie's photo
Fri 11/27/09 06:32 AM

I meditate and pray for universal peace... I have been told I'm delusional.
I would think all would, if they looked find someone they believed to be delusional..


praying for universal peace is not delusional ladylid. thinking it will ever be achieved would be delusional though. but on this i'm with ya. we can keep up the struggle.

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 11/27/09 06:37 AM


I meditate and pray for universal peace... I have been told I'm delusional.
I would think all would, if they looked find someone they believed to be delusional..


praying for universal peace is not delusional ladylid. thinking it will ever be achieved would be delusional though. but on this i'm with ya. we can keep up the struggle.


eh, I realize it can not be attained, yeah, gotta keep positive, better to think that it could than to look for reasons why it wouldn't. Just for the feel good factor if nothing else. Besides, I'm an airy, fairy, artsy, fartsy, head in the clouds emotional thinker..

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Fri 11/27/09 06:39 AM



I meditate and pray for universal peace... I have been told I'm delusional.
I would think all would, if they looked find someone they believed to be delusional..


praying for universal peace is not delusional ladylid. thinking it will ever be achieved would be delusional though. but on this i'm with ya. we can keep up the struggle.


eh, I realize it can not be attained, yeah, gotta keep positive, better to think that it could than to look for reasons why it wouldn't. Just for the feel good factor if nothing else. Besides, I'm an airy, fairy, artsy, fartsy, head in the clouds emotional thinker..


and i'm the very definition of a pragmatist. yet we've both been called delusional. go figure huh?

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 11/27/09 06:59 AM




I meditate and pray for universal peace... I have been told I'm delusional.
I would think all would, if they looked find someone they believed to be delusional..


praying for universal peace is not delusional ladylid. thinking it will ever be achieved would be delusional though. but on this i'm with ya. we can keep up the struggle.


eh, I realize it can not be attained, yeah, gotta keep positive, better to think that it could than to look for reasons why it wouldn't. Just for the feel good factor if nothing else. Besides, I'm an airy, fairy, artsy, fartsy, head in the clouds emotional thinker..


and i'm the very definition of a pragmatist. yet we've both been called delusional. go figure huh?


yeah really, imagine that..your universal answer.."I like the easy ones..no such thing"... :tongue:

jrbogie's photo
Fri 11/27/09 07:11 AM





I meditate and pray for universal peace... I have been told I'm delusional.
I would think all would, if they looked find someone they believed to be delusional..


praying for universal peace is not delusional ladylid. thinking it will ever be achieved would be delusional though. but on this i'm with ya. we can keep up the struggle.


eh, I realize it can not be attained, yeah, gotta keep positive, better to think that it could than to look for reasons why it wouldn't. Just for the feel good factor if nothing else. Besides, I'm an airy, fairy, artsy, fartsy, head in the clouds emotional thinker..


and i'm the very definition of a pragmatist. yet we've both been called delusional. go figure huh?


yeah really, imagine that..your universal answer.."I like the easy ones..no such thing"... :tongue:


indeed. some see that nothing is easy. perception is everything huh?

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 11/27/09 07:33 AM






I meditate and pray for universal peace... I have been told I'm delusional.
I would think all would, if they looked find someone they believed to be delusional..


praying for universal peace is not delusional ladylid. thinking it will ever be achieved would be delusional though. but on this i'm with ya. we can keep up the struggle.


eh, I realize it can not be attained, yeah, gotta keep positive, better to think that it could than to look for reasons why it wouldn't. Just for the feel good factor if nothing else. Besides, I'm an airy, fairy, artsy, fartsy, head in the clouds emotional thinker..


and i'm the very definition of a pragmatist. yet we've both been called delusional. go figure huh?


yeah really, imagine that..your universal answer.."I like the easy ones..no such thing"... :tongue:


indeed. some see that nothing is easy. perception is everything huh?


everything is subject to perception and perspective..I don't rule out anything..all things are possible, to many mysteries to just go with no such thing, for me anyway...
As an emotional thinker, not logical, it is easier for me. I don't need a logical reason to have someone prove or disprove anything. I feel, think differently and strengthening my intuition over the years had served me well. What I do now is soooo much more effective than a pro's and con's list. I don't ever want to get old and stuck in my ways..staying open to all possibilities keep me young and keeps my brain muscle working...

jrbogie's photo
Fri 11/27/09 07:54 AM
indeed

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