Topic: Do you ever feel snubbed by religion? | |
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Bored...
So I go back to an earlier sentiment ... you cannot control another... we don't always get to choose what happens to us but we do have a say in what we do with it. "But AG be honest. People can type responses or say words they know will anger people. Examples- any deragatory words (N-word) any disrespectful statements that pass judgement on believers "dogma, fanatics, fake christians" " Yes people can and do say whatever they want in whatever fashion they want. Do you suppose that says more about the person it is being said about or the person doing the saying? I tend to think the latter...so again I ask ... what does that 'really' have to do with you ... other than showing you a place deep in you that you may not have seen? That doesn't mean you don't stand up for yourself ... that is speaking your truth. But speaking your truth does not have to be entirely reactionary. If you take the emotional charge away, your responses are much different. This is just about living an authentic life .. about breaking down the masks and filters. It is about letting go of who you are not to reveal that which you have always been. Using your example of the N word. I do not like the word and have never used the word. It seems to be used a lot though in hip-hop music and in people's daily lives who follow that culture ... and is not seen as derogatory ... so it would seem that it is not the 'word' necessarily that causes offense but who is using it ... and the 'who' seems to change the context. So you see, even that comes from our own filters and belief systems. It all comes back to us. We are but mirrors for one another to reflect back pieces of ourselves. Some of it we like...some of it we don't. |
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"Yes people can and do say whatever they want in whatever fashion they
want. Do you suppose that says more about the person it is being said about or the person doing the saying?" Just a minute ago you asked Wonderman who was being more judgemental. I like your post but by reading your post when it comes to your friends it's okay but for everyone else the message is "stop being offended" As for the N-word I'm not even going to go there. I disagree with that word among other African Americans and in hip hop. You can't make a hate word into a positive, that's why it's so ignorant. I'm not even going there... ttyl |
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EXACTLY YOU SEE THE TRUTH ABOUT YOUR FRIENDS AND NOW YOU ARE TRYING TO
SWITCH IT AROUND YOU ACT PATHEIC NOW AG |
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watch it wonderman. As humans with flaws it is so easy to get
emotional and hurt. Believer or NOT we all make mistakes. |
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YOU RIGHT BORED I TAKE BACK THE PATHEIC BUT NOTHING ELSE
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can you spell 'child'! Children of religion are fed on ritual and dogma and never learn anything else. Religion is the orginized practice of faith using rituals developed by man. there are many people of faith that do not 'practice' religion. there are many religions that hide behind the facade of faith. |
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thank you AB for further proving my point. He will be
the first one to debate but can type anything that could be offensive to others How smart do you look? |
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I said something about how i disagree with the term "religion"
Either you can't read or you skipped it |
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Wow that is amazing! Such anger.
I am curious how Invisible became part of our conversation - I was making general statements about perception and offering other viewpoints for the purpose of dialogue. Wonderman - I just responded to your comment to me... As I said to you my view is that people push my buttons to show me they exist. My interpretation of your view by your post is that lying hypocrites push your buttons. One points the finger at myself the other points the finger outside of myself. From a purely perception standpoint ... no specifics attached ... a purely philosophical discussion ... I was asking you which of our positions seemed more tolerant to you. Invisible was not even in my realm of consciousness in my posts. You brought a lot of history with you into this discussion that is outside of me and have held me to blame for your reactions? I have switched nothing around. My position is solid. Pathetic? Once again that is your own interpretation. I guess you don't like the reflection in this mirror. |
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"Invisible was not even in my realm of consciousness in my posts. You
brought a lot of history with you into this discussion that is outside of me and have held me to blame for your reactions?" I'm sorry I did not mean to blame you because that is NOT the case. My point is that you corrected me for responding to her but yet you didn't say JACK to her. Friends help friends I see. I would like to get along with everyone but I see it's either impossible here or people just don't want to |
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Anger comes from within and is self fullfilling.
You make yourself angry by how you feel about what some else says. If you let it effect you it will. If you do not it won't. No one can make you angry but you. |
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I partially agree with that AB. I see now you took no accountability in
what you just did how humble. You're known to spit wisdom on these post but yet you do the opposite at times. |
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What are you talking about?
can I say HUH? |
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Bored it was never my intention to 'correct' you ... that is not my
place. My intention was to offer other viewpoints for you and others to consider or not. My motivation was to help by offering the idea that it is possible to release emotional attachment and therefore live a more peaceful and less reactionary life. It was not meant as a statement about anything in particular but rather a catalyst perhaps to open a more philosophical dialogue. |
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Artgurl wrote:
“From a purely perception standpoint ... no specifics attached ... a purely philosophical discussion ...” You’re trying to talk to these people like as if they can actually carry on an impartial conversation? You’ve made my day Sherrie! I’ll be savoring this gentle belly laugh on and off for the rest of the day. Thanks. |
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I appreciate that AG.
I just felt your post should be directed to EVERYONE, including your friends because it is so helpful and powerful. People are intentionally rude at times when angered- yes that is a FACT. So regardless of who the user is, I think we all need to consider your post and the message you gave. Don't let what is within act out on others. Man we wouldn't have half the drama and anger between users. Also, as being a human being with flaws we all make mistakes. So better communication can help |
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That's my point AG
See the difference you post in here respectful but yet ABRA, and AB chose not to. There is an accountability that triggers a domino effect of anger and hatred towards users. That is my point* |
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Pleas specifiy where I have not been respectful.
I have attacked no one. I have whined at or about no one. I have stated my opinion calmly. |
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That's EXACTLY why I agree with your message and partially disagree.
Yes it is our anger inside that causes us to act the way we do BUT it is those who provoke others who trigger it. If everyone (including the offended and the provoker) took your advice, tension could be prevented. That is why I emphasize carrying the message home also to your friend and fellow users. |
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Ab well first, you have smileys that are laughing which clearly shows
mockery Then your words, "can you spell 'child'! Children of religion are fed on ritual and dogma and never learn anything else." What is anything else? You use dogma and religion simply because you may not agree with my views. Not only did I respond to your usage of the word "religion" earlier in the thread, but you continue to do it. |
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