Topic: The Writer's Workshop
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Sat 10/31/09 10:55 PM
Edited by JustAGuy2112 on Sat 10/31/09 10:55 PM
Vocabulary is something every writer needs to build on. Wouldn't you agree?


Not necessarily.

I have read FAR too many books that the author seemed to be breaking out the Thesaurus at least once in every sentence.

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Sat 10/31/09 11:01 PM
Edited by smiless on Sat 10/31/09 11:01 PM
sheesh that is what I call fast JustAGuy2112!

I wrote 35 chapters for one book. It took me 3 years to write. I guess I am really slow when it comes to writing!

but I let my books marinade alot. I write 10 chapters then take a rest and soak the pages in a good steak marinade.laugh

Then come back to them 6 months later with a bunch of notes I gathered in that time.

I then look at the pages I wrote and add or take out parts to try to improve each chapter. I am a firm believer that each chapter needs to be better then the last one.

I treat each word like they are full of magic.

I wouldn't suggest to take my advice on this style of writing or you will never complete a book!

In the end when it comes to a good novel, I really take long. I good publishing company wouldn't enjoy my company for I am not much into deadlines. laugh


but again maybe my writing isn't as good as I think it is either. We always tend to believe our own writing is good. It is put to the test when a editor, agent, or a publisher looks at it.

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Sat 10/31/09 11:10 PM
Edited by JustAGuy2112 on Sat 10/31/09 11:12 PM

sheesh that is what I call fast JustAGuy2112!

I wrote 35 chapters for one book. It took me 3 years to write. I guess I am really slow when it comes to writing!


heh. My friend Mindy gets kinda irritated with me because I can usually put out at least 1000 words whenever I sit down. She gets around 500 on a good day. I started seriously working on it about 3 months ago and I am up around 35k words at this point. Sometimes it flows, sometimes it doesn't.

but again maybe my writing isn't as good as I think it is either. We always tend to believe our own writing is good. It is put to the test when a editor, agent, or a publisher looks at it.


Well..so far, the reviews have been pretty good. Everyone who has seen it seems to think that I should at least make an effort to get it published. We'll see if the people ion the business actually agree..lol

I am actually very much the opposite when it comes to how I think about my writing. When I started back into it, I really didn't think it was very good at all. It was, more or less, just me getting something out of my head.

My view point is a bit different now. I actually stepped out of writer mode and took a look as a reader. What I was writing was something that I would actually want to read. Having read as many books as I have in my lifetime, that's something that was very difficult for me to be able to say.

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Sat 10/31/09 11:12 PM
All I can say is good luck JustAGuy2112! I hope it goes through! Keep us posted will ya.drinker

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Sat 10/31/09 11:13 PM

All I can say is good luck JustAGuy2112! I hope it goes through! Keep us posted will ya.drinker


Well..if I do manage to get published...I'll definitely let EVERYONE know..lmao

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Sat 10/31/09 11:33 PM


All I can say is good luck JustAGuy2112! I hope it goes through! Keep us posted will ya.drinker


Well..if I do manage to get published...I'll definitely let EVERYONE know..lmao


I don't blame you! I would be celeberating also if a major publishing company took any of my work, but I have given up that dream a long time ago. Now I just write because it is fun to do. A hobby at best. drinker

Yet don't let me get you down. I do hope you publish and have many books sold in the process. drinker

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Sat 10/31/09 11:51 PM
I don't care if it's a major publisher or a minor one. I would be happy to just have someone think it was worth investing in. LOL

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Sat 10/31/09 11:58 PM

I don't care if it's a major publisher or a minor one. I would be happy to just have someone think it was worth investing in. LOL


Well again, I wish you luck.

When there is a will then there is a way!drinker

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Sat 10/31/09 11:58 PM
Edited by smiless on Sat 10/31/09 11:59 PM
Oh gosh! Not history! That is boring! This new innovative quiz trivia book will change your mind. It comes with an illustration for each trivia question, did you know facts, including funny facts to keep the trivia fun and easy. Half of the earnings from this book will go to UNICEF to help children that are not so fortunate in life. In the end you will know more and you have done a good deed. This book is free for all Mingle2 members! Just email me that you are interested and I shall send you a free ebook copy. Choose a book that would interest you or choose all of them.







COMING SOON!





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Sun 11/01/09 12:31 AM
Cool idea OP! Now if I can think of something to write. lol

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Sun 11/01/09 08:38 AM



It is a great storyline. Now does your novels have to be bought in sequence to be understandable, or can one pick up the third book and still receive a good story without having questions.

I know of one writer that actually talks about one main character throughout the series of books he has written, yet one can pick up any book and it provides a good story without having to start with the first book of the series to understand everything.


I think it's important that each book should be able to stand on its own, storywise. Not everyone is going to read them all, or read them in numerical order --

To deal with that, I've provided some basic background information in books two and three to cover the backstory.

So, I think it helps to read them all, in that you get the complete picture, but it isn't absolutely essential.





That is relieving to know! Where can one buy a book of yours? How much do they cost and is there any chance one can get a sign autographed copy if one asks?




At last count, they are available on 23 different book websites, although Amazon seems to be the biggie.

The first two go for $18.99, the new one will be $21.99 due to the fact that I have a tendency to write too many pages sometimes.

I have yet to do anything re: autographed copies but it's a possibility. One of my readers owns a nearby collectibles store, and we are discussing a book-signing event there, although nothing has been finalized yet!

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Sun 11/01/09 08:50 AM
Edited by Gossipmpm on Sun 11/01/09 08:51 AM
Hi!!


Tammys the name
Poetry the game

My favorite word

Translucent

Why?? Dunno

Just love the way it sits on my tounge
Ya can't see it
It plays with my tastebuds
Then just slowly
Drips off!!

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Sun 11/01/09 11:34 AM


When everything was brought into the new house and night came, Tristan was awakened by a noise. But when he opened his eyes, the dark room was still and silent.
He gazed around in confusion, wondering what had awakened him so suddenly. The moon cast shadows on the semi packed boxes that were shoved in a corner. Suddenly there was movement there and Tristan leaned forward to see what it was.
A girl came out of the shadows, behind the boxes, gasping and shaking. She had dark hair like him and same eyes when she reluctantly looked up at him. he lifted himself from the bed and stepped closer to her, ever so slowly.
" Are you alright?"​ he whispered. he took a step closer still until he saw those familiar eyes and pale alabaster skin.
She cringed back from him, as though afraid, and then forced a trembling smile. But her eyes, large and haunted, betrayed her. She was muddy and soaking wet, trembling uncontrollab​ly. Then she wrapped her chilled fingers around his arms and gasped desperately,​ " Tristan...Tr​istan, help me!"
Sitting up with a jolt, he looked around the room, confused. he looked toward the boxes and he had mixed emotions when he didn't find the girl hiding behind them. he was relieved she wasn't suffering and ice cold, but disappointed​ that she wasn't real.
Tristan remembered that the girl had touched his skin and hurried to the bathroom, flicking on the switch. he looked down at his arms and whimpered when he saw faint fingerprints​ imprinted on them.......


Nice story! I like the ending of it! Faint fingerprints on them... makes you wonder who or what??

Keep it coming!

It is a part where my sisters wouldn't read cause they say it is creepy lol

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Mon 11/02/09 11:07 AM

Cool idea OP! Now if I can think of something to write. lol


You can do it! I believe in you. This site is also used to help writers at the same time. If you have questions there will certainly be a writer to help you out to the best of their knowledge.

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Mon 11/02/09 11:08 AM

Hi!!


Tammys the name
Poetry the game

My favorite word

Translucent

Why?? Dunno

Just love the way it sits on my tounge
Ya can't see it
It plays with my tastebuds
Then just slowly
Drips off!!


Welcome Tammy! Keep it coming and keep it interesting whenever you have time. drinker

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Mon 11/02/09 11:13 AM




It is a great storyline. Now does your novels have to be bought in sequence to be understandable, or can one pick up the third book and still receive a good story without having questions.

I know of one writer that actually talks about one main character throughout the series of books he has written, yet one can pick up any book and it provides a good story without having to start with the first book of the series to understand everything.


I think it's important that each book should be able to stand on its own, storywise. Not everyone is going to read them all, or read them in numerical order --

To deal with that, I've provided some basic background information in books two and three to cover the backstory.

So, I think it helps to read them all, in that you get the complete picture, but it isn't absolutely essential.





That is relieving to know! Where can one buy a book of yours? How much do they cost and is there any chance one can get a sign autographed copy if one asks?




At last count, they are available on 23 different book websites, although Amazon seems to be the biggie.

The first two go for $18.99, the new one will be $21.99 due to the fact that I have a tendency to write too many pages sometimes.

I have yet to do anything re: autographed copies but it's a possibility. One of my readers owns a nearby collectibles store, and we are discussing a book-signing event there, although nothing has been finalized yet!



That is alot of websites! I am sure more companies will add your books to their websites eventually. Just imagine if you could get all of those books translated in different languages. This could actually increase book sales also and get them to a wider audience.

What important advice could you give enthusiastic writers on completing an entire first draft novel?

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Mon 11/02/09 11:16 AM



When everything was brought into the new house and night came, Tristan was awakened by a noise. But when he opened his eyes, the dark room was still and silent.
He gazed around in confusion, wondering what had awakened him so suddenly. The moon cast shadows on the semi packed boxes that were shoved in a corner. Suddenly there was movement there and Tristan leaned forward to see what it was.
A girl came out of the shadows, behind the boxes, gasping and shaking. She had dark hair like him and same eyes when she reluctantly looked up at him. he lifted himself from the bed and stepped closer to her, ever so slowly.
" Are you alright?"​ he whispered. he took a step closer still until he saw those familiar eyes and pale alabaster skin.
She cringed back from him, as though afraid, and then forced a trembling smile. But her eyes, large and haunted, betrayed her. She was muddy and soaking wet, trembling uncontrollab​ly. Then she wrapped her chilled fingers around his arms and gasped desperately,​ " Tristan...Tr​istan, help me!"
Sitting up with a jolt, he looked around the room, confused. he looked toward the boxes and he had mixed emotions when he didn't find the girl hiding behind them. he was relieved she wasn't suffering and ice cold, but disappointed​ that she wasn't real.
Tristan remembered that the girl had touched his skin and hurried to the bathroom, flicking on the switch. he looked down at his arms and whimpered when he saw faint fingerprints​ imprinted on them.......


Nice story! I like the ending of it! Faint fingerprints on them... makes you wonder who or what??

Keep it coming!

It is a part where my sisters wouldn't read cause they say it is creepy lol


I think it would make a great thriller. I am a avid fan of Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child. I have frequently emailed them in the past always asking for advice on how to write. Lincoln Child often replied and gave suggestions. Today they have such a huge fan base that I am lucky to get a email back from them. Nevertheless, their books are very entertaining to me at least.

You should really think about completing that story, unless you already have.

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Mon 11/02/09 11:33 AM
Here's an introductory snip from one of the stories I'll be using in my fourth book. It's actually a story about dating sites!

**********

SPECIALIZED


Joe Schwartz is at work – ostensibly – in the insurance office he’s been with for the past six years. He’s leafing through this morning’s Chicago Sun-Times when the phone rings. He glances at the Caller ID box and sees his own name.

It’s his ex-wife, Sharon, calling from the home they shared for seven years, before the divorce was finalized a little over a month ago.

She still hasn’t called the phone company to get the number put in her own name....

“Yeah, Sharon, what is it?” He doesn’t want to come across as being mean or hostile -- the lawyer advised a sort of “detached tolerance” in their interactions—but he really doesn’t feel like talking to her right now.

I really haven’t felt like talking to her for...ages....

“Joe, you gotta help me. It’s the car.” Sharon got the good car, the house, the furniture, the two kids, and 80% of the money, in what the lawyers interestingly enough referred to as the “agreement.”

Joe loves that car. He squelches the realization that he’d rather help the car then help Sharon. “Why, what’s wrong, what’s it doing?”

“Oh, it’s making this noise, I don’t know how to explain it. It’s like flub. Well, no, more like flub flub or flub flub flub. It repeats.”

He exhales slowly. “You should take it to the mechanic. T&J over on Loomis, they’re good.”

“I don’t want to deal with those people, Joe, they can always tell I don’t know anything about cars. They can see me coming, you know, then it’s an arm and a leg to fix something simple and stupid, probably, right? Just come over here and take a look at it and tell me what you think it is, OK?”

“OK, Sharon, I’ll drop by after work.”

She doesn’t say anything for a moment, then, “Oh, and, Joe – just because we’re divorced now doesn’t mean we can’t be friends, you know? Civil to one another. We’re still the same people we were when we got married.”

One of us isn’t, he thinks. But he doesn’t want to argue the point.

She goes on. “And I’m not the one who told you to go out and find a girlfriend, either. That was your own idea.”

And she’s right. I was bored, fed up with the same old wife, the same old stories, the same old in-laws, the same old everything, and I looked elsewhere for some entertainment.

As much as he’d like to turn it around, blame the whole thing on her, he knows he can’t. He made the choice, he found the new girlfriend (who knew he was married, who knew he was getting a divorce, and who summarily dumped him once she learned that he had lost the good car, the house, the furniture, and 80% of the money); he’s the one who broke the marriage vows.
Game, set, and match NOT made in Heaven.

“We don’t need to rehash this right now, Sharon. I’ll see you later.”

He hangs up.

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Mon 11/02/09 11:34 AM
The good old writer's block that many have talked about.

Do you believe them to be true or is it just a lame excuse writers use to not write anymore at the moment?


If you have suffered writer's block then what methods have you used to recreate the interest or perhaps the ideas on what to write to finish a project that you once started?


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Mon 11/02/09 11:48 AM

That is alot of websites! I am sure more companies will add your books to their websites eventually. Just imagine if you could get all of those books translated in different languages. This could actually increase book sales also and get them to a wider audience.

What important advice could you give enthusiastic writers on completing an entire first draft novel?


I think it's important to know where your story is going but still give yourself some breathing room to throw in hew twists and ideas if there's a way to fit them in.

The way I work is somewhat contrary to the way most of the experts recommend (big surprise, huh?) -- I start out with a very sketchy skeletal idea and fill lots of it in as I go along.

Because I'm doing a multi-book overall storyline, I'm always looking for ways to create cross-continuity between the individual books -- the sort of thing where someone reading book six will go "Oh, so THAT'S why the other thing happened in book two!" Easter eggs.

I'm very character-driven and I have to have a good handle on the main characters before I can get their dialogue down, get the way they would handle situations. This is a key for me.

On a first draft, I would recommend not worrying too much about details like what color Omar's shirt is or how many tables are in the diner. Unless there's a specific plot-related reason for mentioning it, nobody generally cares too much about this sort of thing and it can be filled in later or (my own personal preference) ignored completely!