Exactly!

kids

Well my kids had good jobs by the time they left High School and I had collected things so they had enough to set up a comfortable apartment. I would have liked them to stay home and stayed in college but wasn't in their plans so now they can put themselves through.

I would say when they are at the point they want to be their own boss then get their own door to be behind. None of that coming in all hours or sleep over friends. None of that dragging kids back in for me to raise either. If they have to rent a room or share with people their own age once they move out not moving back in unless they are sick or injured.

Depends on how selfish the guys are. Generally, the living at home part hasn't been a problem.

Its the fact that I refuse to get rid of MY dogs, MY goats, MY cows, MY turkeys, MY animals when he slaps me with an ultimatum, him or them. I've have my animals longer then any guy I've known and they will stay. Very few guys anymore understand the whole country life thing (and I don't milk my own cow, which becomes a whole other thing, or butcher my own animals). I don't go out partying, and have no interest in it, so staying out till 4 in the morning isn't me.

The guy I'm dating now gets along great with my family, has some understanding of the whole country thing. We go out, and get home around 11PM, and fit everything in and around the animals feeding schedules. He's interested in the homesteading thing, going off the grid, etc.

My folks put school first, so we didn't have jobs till the last semester of high school. We both worked, lived at home while in college, and they were fine with that.

It is a matter of basic rules. It's my parents house, so they get to set them. It's not as severe as 10 pm deadlines in high school, but it's a matter of simple respect. They don't want to be woke up at 4 in the morning.

Now, if I had had children, I would have been on my own. They were and are very adamant that if you have kids, you're on your own, they aren't going to raise them. With the sheer amount of sex education we grew up with there are no "accidental" kids. Not a big deal. The screwy relationship and moving back in after worked out because they didn't like the guy to begin with and he threatened to behead the parakeets. That REALLY didn't go over!

so if you don't wanna have kids,why don't we just practice....

Yea if my child were being abused they could come home of course but I would still be getting them settled away from me if for no other reason I would not want the abusive person to know where they were.

I never let my kids work that it conflicted with their education either. Fortuneately my sons made very good grades and I had them in a very good college preparitory high school. Both had computer skills, were accomplished cooks, owned cars, and knew most basic life skills such as banking, laundry, home repairs and cleaning, auto maintenance, and were certified first aiders. They owned their own yard business before they were twelve so it was not like most teens hitting the world.

34 acres leaves one plenty of room to hide the bodies! He tried to threaten me that he would show up, but when dad and brother point blank told him he would disappear and a couple of bags of lime were less then $5.00... he never bothered.

That said, I did tell the neighbor (who was a firefighter, and now a cop) that if something happened, the ex was the first place to look. And I've still kept his threatening and blackmail crap, even now. Better safe then sorry.

I dont think you should ever push your kids out of the nest.. They should go when they want to, or are ready imo.


My door will always be open to my child.. thats a given.

I love how we think alike.

i left at eighteen and never looked back, even through a homeless stint after 6 years of college, i was homeless for two years. the economy was ****! i feel if i can't hack it at eighteen or older, i don't deserve to play the game, and if i die, i die. if i live, i live. nobody was there to pick me or all the vietnam vets out of the woods. i was the only one to make it out of that woods that i know of, and integrate back into the business population. tells how well the gov't takes care of our vets.....they don't.

When they hit that "terrible two's" stage and start saying NO to everything you tell them!

Other people's kids are so cute at that age.

LOL!

No they're not! Especially when the parents let the little brats get away with that crap. My parents nailed our hides to the wall if we tried that.

I meant when they're not around me, if I have to deal with them, it's annoying, but when they're torturing their parents, it amuses me.

Awwwww, I remember those without fondness.

I concur.

I think it is disgraceful what our country does to disabled vets wheather physically or mentally disabled. Or for that matter anyone who is physically or mentally disabled. I can't understand why we can't have more accessible living situations for those people who need them.

And work. I think it is a lot that people think they never should have to back track and or start over but jobs and careers die out and sometimes that is just how it is. I taught my kids that there were no "bad" jobs unless they were dishonest. And that most of learning a job was showing up, shutting up, working hard, and just learning what you needed to do the job well. Advancement comes quicker with that attitude. The job might not get easier but usually the money did get better with more responsibiity. That working for low or no pay was not rediculous if you were learning a trade.