Topic: 80/20 is it true?
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Tue 10/27/09 06:20 AM

I think men should stop making statistical generalizations about women and what they want and instead pay closer attention to being thoughtful.

But that's just my .02.

Cause...even when we tell you what we want...you manage to make it into us being picky, nagging, or not appreciating what you do for us.

Which just isn't the case.

So...80/20? Who cares...

Men don't know what they want either...you boys are walking contradictions.


:thumbsup:

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Tue 10/27/09 06:22 AM

personally i think men and women make their minds up on the first look. then we tell our selves it`s a decision based on friendship personality etc. the relationships built on friendship is an other kettle of fish. are they just settling for mr/miss right here right now? how honest are we to our selves?


I certainly don't make up my mind on the first look.

Perhaps people should start speaking for themselves, rather than making generalizations.

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Tue 10/27/09 06:36 AM
At least %50 of all statistics are made up on the spot.

When I worked in a Family Practice clinic we used to say that %20 of the patients were responsible for %80 of all office visits.


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Tue 10/27/09 06:54 AM
Guess what?

I know what I like
I know what I want

I'm not wishy washy

I live and let live

I don't run around like a chicken with no head!:heart:

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Tue 10/27/09 07:23 AM
when dealing with women,

if you have a 50/50 chance of being right the odds are 99% you'll get it wrong

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Tue 10/27/09 09:08 AM


oh gawd... these generalization threads get soooo old!



Yes they do. And guess what, it is always newbies starting them laugh



Hmmmmmmm....nice way to welcome someone to the site. I've seen this happen a lot. Not everyone has had the opportunity to post 50,000 times on various topics. If the ppl that have been on here for a long time don't like threads that newbies start, easy -- don't respond -- or start a new thread about something that's more interesting to you.

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Tue 10/27/09 09:45 AM
It wouldn't be a normal day on here without

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Tue 10/27/09 09:53 AM

It wouldn't be a normal day on here without


You're right Pats. I just get tired of the bashing that goes on in some of these threads. How is this site supposed to grow if newbies are made to feel like their input isn't worth discussing? Oh, and I must add this: not ALL newbies, not ALL input, not EVERYONE bashes, not ALL threads. There, I think that about covers my a$$.

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Tue 10/27/09 12:50 PM
Here is a bit of wisdom I've picked up over the years: Men and Women are 2 different species. Chemically and mentally we are 2 very different animals. The ironic part is that for there to be any decendants, we have to come together and interact with each other. I have about a 4-1 ratio of female to male friends and have noticed that our interactions with male and female friends are vastly different. We aren't as in touch with our feelings or in how to communicate what we truly want. Women, on the other hand, are much more in touch with how they feel and communicating that. When you hear a guy say 'my wife, girlfriend just doesn't understand me', he's right. However, it's due to the fact that we, as men, just are terrible at conveying what we want or need.
Cheers!!!!!!!!!!

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Tue 10/27/09 03:26 PM

Men don't know what they want either...you boys are walking contradictions.



Hmmmm....the overgeneralizing is getting a bit thick in here today. Anybody have a machete?

In reality, I know exactly what I want. The only problem is that it doesn't exist anymore....


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Tue 10/27/09 03:28 PM


Men don't know what they want either...you boys are walking contradictions.



Hmmmm....the overgeneralizing is getting a bit thick in here today. Anybody have a machete?

In reality, I know exactly what I want. The only problem is that it doesn't exist anymore....




And wouldn't you be generalizing by saying that it doesn't exist anymore?

This is one of those songs that never end...

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Tue 10/27/09 03:34 PM


Men don't know what they want either...you boys are walking contradictions.



Hmmmm....the overgeneralizing is getting a bit thick in here today. Anybody have a machete?

In reality, I know exactly what I want. The only problem is that it doesn't exist anymore....




Oh...and one more little statement about this...

I said..."men don't know what they want EITHER"...as in...nobody knows what they want...so it's not really a generalization as much as it is a statement of observed fact.

And please...spare me how you know what you want...cause it's what everyone wants...

Relationships are like pizza...

They're all basically the same...

Round. Crust. Pizza Sauce. Cheese.

Where they start to differ are the toppings...and where I might want mushrooms, black olives, and onions...you might want pepperoni and anchovies.

But maybe that's what you want today...but tomorrow you don't really want anchovies anymore, but would rather have extra cheese.

Wants and desires are fluid...they change as we change. And I'd like to think that we change everyday. Who I am today is not who I was yesterday and not who I will be tomorrow.

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Tue 10/27/09 03:48 PM



Men don't know what they want either...you boys are walking contradictions.



Hmmmm....the overgeneralizing is getting a bit thick in here today. Anybody have a machete?

In reality, I know exactly what I want. The only problem is that it doesn't exist anymore....




And wouldn't you be generalizing by saying that it doesn't exist anymore?

This is one of those songs that never end...


Apples and oranges. Stegosauruses don't exist anymore. I don't see that as overgeneralizing, I just see that as acknowledging the (admittedly subjectively-based) fact that I've never seen one.

Generalizing is when you lump a bunch of potentially-dissimilar things ("Why are all men pigs?" "Why do all women lie?" and threads of that nature) into one category. I'm talking about one thing (i.e., what I would like to find) and then stating that, as far as I can tell, this particular thing no longer exists. I see no way this could be considered "generalizing."

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Tue 10/27/09 03:51 PM




Men don't know what they want either...you boys are walking contradictions.



Hmmmm....the overgeneralizing is getting a bit thick in here today. Anybody have a machete?

In reality, I know exactly what I want. The only problem is that it doesn't exist anymore....




And wouldn't you be generalizing by saying that it doesn't exist anymore?

This is one of those songs that never end...


Apples and oranges. Stegosauruses don't exist anymore. I don't see that as overgeneralizing, I just see that as acknowledging the (admittedly subjectively-based) fact that I've never seen one.

Generalizing is when you lump a bunch of potentially-dissimilar things ("Why are all men pigs?" "Why do all women lie?" and threads of that nature) into one category. I'm talking about one thing (i.e., what I would like to find) and then stating that, as far as I can tell, this particular thing no longer exists. I see no way this could be considered "generalizing."



Unless you're looking for a specific person then it is generalizing.

What are you looking for? Unless it's something SO specific that only ONE person could fit the bill...then it is generalizing.

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Tue 10/27/09 03:52 PM

I said..."men don't know what they want EITHER"...as in...nobody knows what they want...so it's not really a generalization as much as it is a statement of observed fact.


That's actually one of the most blatant generalizations of all. Unless, of course, you've spoken with every man on the planet in order to reach your conclusions about what men do or do not know.

I would also disagree with your premise that "nobody knows what they want" -- while I would submit that this is true in many cases, the use of the word "nobody" is another overgeneralization not based in any sort of factuality.


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Tue 10/27/09 03:57 PM


I said..."men don't know what they want EITHER"...as in...nobody knows what they want...so it's not really a generalization as much as it is a statement of observed fact.


That's actually one of the most blatant generalizations of all. Unless, of course, you've spoken with every man on the planet in order to reach your conclusions about what men do or do not know.

I would also disagree with your premise that "nobody knows what they want" -- while I would submit that this is true in many cases, the use of the word "nobody" is another overgeneralization not based in any sort of factuality.




Right...and now you're being nit picky just to be nit picky and have nothing new or original to say.

Am I guilty of generalizations...of course. Dare I say...we all are. There again, I don't spend all day with everyone on earth, so I can't actually say that...now can I?

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Tue 10/27/09 03:57 PM

Unless you're looking for a specific person then it is generalizing.


So any assessment which incorprates the inclusion of two or more people is "generalizing"? We're obviously using very different dictionaries.


What are you looking for? Unless it's something SO specific that only ONE person could fit the bill...then it is generalizing.


In reality, what I'm looking for is speciofic enough that only one person has ever even APPROACHED fitting the bill -- and then lost the desire/ability/whatever to even do that much. So perhaps I have found my way through your somewhat arbitrary loophole....!

shades

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Tue 10/27/09 04:02 PM



I said..."men don't know what they want EITHER"...as in...nobody knows what they want...so it's not really a generalization as much as it is a statement of observed fact.


That's actually one of the most blatant generalizations of all. Unless, of course, you've spoken with every man on the planet in order to reach your conclusions about what men do or do not know.

I would also disagree with your premise that "nobody knows what they want" -- while I would submit that this is true in many cases, the use of the word "nobody" is another overgeneralization not based in any sort of factuality.




Right...and now you're being nit picky just to be nit picky and have nothing new or original to say.

Am I guilty of generalizations...of course. Dare I say...we all are. There again, I don't spend all day with everyone on earth, so I can't actually say that...now can I?


I'm being nitpicky because I have issues with overgeneralizations, going back some 10 years or so, since I started participating in dating sites and forums and such.

All I'm saying is that the whole "Why are all men pigs?" and "Why are all women crazy," etc., threads that show up (pretty much constantly) are really, in the end, sort of pointless.

Since they're not grounded in any sort of reality, since they have no other purpose than to allow one gender to blast away at the other, then wouldn't it make more sense to just sidestep the cliche and deal with whatever the REAL issues are?




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Tue 10/27/09 04:03 PM


Unless you're looking for a specific person then it is generalizing.


So any assessment which incorprates the inclusion of two or more people is "generalizing"? We're obviously using very different dictionaries.


What are you looking for? Unless it's something SO specific that only ONE person could fit the bill...then it is generalizing.


In reality, what I'm looking for is speciofic enough that only one person has ever even APPROACHED fitting the bill -- and then lost the desire/ability/whatever to even do that much. So perhaps I have found my way through your somewhat arbitrary loophole....!

shades


I think everyone should take a day out of their life to read your profile Lex, and literally, it will take the entire day.

shades

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Tue 10/27/09 04:06 PM



Unless you're looking for a specific person then it is generalizing.


So any assessment which incorprates the inclusion of two or more people is "generalizing"? We're obviously using very different dictionaries.


What are you looking for? Unless it's something SO specific that only ONE person could fit the bill...then it is generalizing.


In reality, what I'm looking for is speciofic enough that only one person has ever even APPROACHED fitting the bill -- and then lost the desire/ability/whatever to even do that much. So perhaps I have found my way through your somewhat arbitrary loophole....!

shades


I think everyone should take a day out of their life to read your profile Lex, and literally, it will take the entire day.

shades


I always thought a profile should say something about the person who wrote it! And then say some more stuff, and some more....

I just added a pic of my third book's cover in there, too....!!

shades