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MirrorMirror
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 Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations. Vaccinations are a blessing to all mankind.Doctors and medical specialist are the only people that would be able to make a determination about a scenario you speak of. So how would some uneducated clowns even find out about something like that to begin with? That should be a clue that something like this would be a hoax. And what if, such as is being researched heavily right now, these vaccines are directly linked to the steep rise in Autism in children. Are those vaccinations still such a " blessing " then, Mirror??  There is no evidence of that. And even if it WAS true then its not the vaccination ITSELF that causes it but a chemical in the vaccine that causes it. Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations It would make more sense to credit those thousands/millions of lives saved to improved sanitation and general health/living standards than to vaccination. Back in the days when people died en masse, refrigeration and electricity were also rare. You leave out MANY variables, greatly misleading those who may read your post. I don't agree with any of thatI believe in science.
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Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations. Vaccinations are a blessing to all mankind.Doctors and medical specialist are the only people that would be able to make a determination about a scenario you speak of. So how would some uneducated clowns even find out about something like that to begin with? That should be a clue that something like this would be a hoax. And what if, such as is being researched heavily right now, these vaccines are directly linked to the steep rise in Autism in children. Are those vaccinations still such a " blessing " then, Mirror?? There is no evidence of that. And even if it WAS true then its not the vaccination ITSELF that causes it but a chemical in the vaccine that causes it. Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations If thousands of people die from a hoax rumor then the people responsible should be brought to justice According to the US Court of federal claims, there is a connection. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57629 "The federal government continues to deny a link between vaccines and autism, but the U.S. Court of Federal Claims has ruled in favor of a child alleged to have regressed into autism as a result of vaccinations." Hey now. The Court may say there is a connection....but the Government insists there isn't. Who ya gonna believe?? The Government would never lie to us. I trust in rationality and the scientific methodNot magic or religion
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Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations. Vaccinations are a blessing to all mankind.Doctors and medical specialist are the only people that would be able to make a determination about a scenario you speak of. So how would some uneducated clowns even find out about something like that to begin with? That should be a clue that something like this would be a hoax. And what if, such as is being researched heavily right now, these vaccines are directly linked to the steep rise in Autism in children. Are those vaccinations still such a " blessing " then, Mirror?? There is no evidence of that. And even if it WAS true then its not the vaccination ITSELF that causes it but a chemical in the vaccine that causes it. Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations It would make more sense to credit those thousands/millions of lives saved to improved sanitation and general health/living standards than to vaccination. Back in the days when people died en masse, refrigeration and electricity were also rare. You leave out MANY variables, greatly misleading those who may read your post. I don't agree with any of thatI believe in science. Ah but there's good science and there's bad science. Do you realize that in some trials done with vaccines in the past, any negative effects of vaccines would be thrown out? How can you have a proper, legitimate trial, if the whole thing is fixed to support your case? |
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Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations. Vaccinations are a blessing to all mankind.Doctors and medical specialist are the only people that would be able to make a determination about a scenario you speak of. So how would some uneducated clowns even find out about something like that to begin with? That should be a clue that something like this would be a hoax. And what if, such as is being researched heavily right now, these vaccines are directly linked to the steep rise in Autism in children. Are those vaccinations still such a " blessing " then, Mirror?? There is no evidence of that. And even if it WAS true then its not the vaccination ITSELF that causes it but a chemical in the vaccine that causes it. Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations It would make more sense to credit those thousands/millions of lives saved to improved sanitation and general health/living standards than to vaccination. Back in the days when people died en masse, refrigeration and electricity were also rare. You leave out MANY variables, greatly misleading those who may read your post. I don't agree with any of thatI believe in science. Ah but there's good science and there's bad science. Do you realize that in some trials done with vaccines in the past, any negative effects of vaccines would be thrown out? How can you have a proper, legitimate trial, if the whole thing is fixed to support your case? No,there is just scienceVaccination serve to boost a persons immune systemThat is the facts. This anti-vaccination stuff is religion
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Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations. Vaccinations are a blessing to all mankind.Doctors and medical specialist are the only people that would be able to make a determination about a scenario you speak of. So how would some uneducated clowns even find out about something like that to begin with? That should be a clue that something like this would be a hoax. And what if, such as is being researched heavily right now, these vaccines are directly linked to the steep rise in Autism in children. Are those vaccinations still such a " blessing " then, Mirror?? There is no evidence of that. And even if it WAS true then its not the vaccination ITSELF that causes it but a chemical in the vaccine that causes it. Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations It would make more sense to credit those thousands/millions of lives saved to improved sanitation and general health/living standards than to vaccination. Back in the days when people died en masse, refrigeration and electricity were also rare. You leave out MANY variables, greatly misleading those who may read your post. I don't agree with any of thatI believe in science. Ah but there's good science and there's bad science. Do you realize that in some trials done with vaccines in the past, any negative effects of vaccines would be thrown out? How can you have a proper, legitimate trial, if the whole thing is fixed to support your case? No,there is just scienceVaccination serve to boost a persons immune systemThat is the facts. This anti-vaccination stuff is religion You're not getting it, if there's evidence to side effects of vaccines that isn't being documented, then it's one sided, or junk science that is fixed. This has nothing to do with religion but common sense. You CANNOT have proper science if it's set up to create the desired result by those doing the trials. |
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first off , sites like youtube, mingle (yes I named us), yahoo, they are all privately owned when it is all broken down t obasics, and because of this, the owners of the site have the legal right to regualte what they allow ont he site, even if you do nto agree with that regulation. Has nothign ot do with free speach.
Second, in most cases, not all but most, when something IS removed form sites like youtube, yahoo etc. it is because it has been decided t be either bad for business in one way or another, or unethical to allow the possibility of a minor to see it. Oh no, RULES!!! how will we and the internet survive? (rolls eyes) There is not any information as to what the regulation will involve but people hear the word and all hell breaks loose. Interesting. The Fcc regulates the airwaves and we still have as much crap as ever on the idiot box. Im sure it wont affect what crap will be on the internet. Actually what I see is a bigger crackdown on free speech over the web coming. Like for example, how often do you see a site like youtube remove content that is not for copyright related reasons? It happens more often then you may think. I'd be very worried about something like this, because the more free speech is taken away, the less control we have in getting messages out there, and the more control the mainstream media has in just what is shown and what is hidden. |
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I had heard somewhere that you will not be able to make anti Obama comments online without them being "regulated". presidential threats have been monitored long before OBama. Before the internet even, government had certain words and groups of words, and certain books that if taken out of the library would send a red flag for them to monitor the person interested. As far as regulations though,, I will continue to repeat, I think people tend to be very hyper sensitive to the idea of rules which is a sad thing to me as I watch how haywire the younger generation is going. Rules were never meant to be an enemy. There is such a thing as TOO many rules just as there is such a thing as not enough, but people seem to throw out any compromise and just immediately shun the idea of order or regulation or rules or whatever implies doing something other than whatever one feels like. |
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Yeah, free speech is always a touchy subject. I think it is sad people NEED to have their speech regulated because of their willingness to use words to put others in harms way. This is not possible, because there is no objective measure of "harm" caused by "free speech". Speech is already limited enough by the Constitution (libel and slander can be prosecuted)and various State constitutions. heavenly, sometimes I forget about you and tend to not be so specific. My post was my own personal opinion but not anything based on an actual law. I think people need rules and regulations , to some extent, to avoid chaos and to avoid harming others, directly or otherwise. I doubt whether the writers of the constitution ever IMAGINED a world like the one we live in and possibly did not cover every protection which might be needed. A good reason for amendments... |
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I can see the argument used about the vaccines but there are other things like this as well. look at all of the chain emails and such sent.
others have an equal right to disprove or debunk the other sources. we see this all of the time in the news and on places like snopes and factcheck. do we not? I can see them regulating things that are illegal...such as child porn or sites that are selling people into slavery and such. those are illegal. |
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Yeah, free speech is always a touchy subject. I think it is sad people NEED to have their speech regulated because of their willingness to use words to put others in harms way. This is not possible, because there is no objective measure of "harm" caused by "free speech". Speech is already limited enough by the Constitution (libel and slander can be prosecuted)and various State constitutions. heavenly, sometimes I forget about you and tend to not be so specific. My post was my own personal opinion but not anything based on an actual law. I think people need rules and regulations , to some extent, to avoid chaos and to avoid harming others, directly or otherwise. I doubt whether the writers of the constitution ever IMAGINED a world like the one we live in and possibly did not cover every protection which might be needed. A good reason for amendments... I would argue that the failure of the Constitution furthers the case for Sovereignty (both at the State and individual level). |
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