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Edited by
Kleisto
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Yeah, free speech is always a touchy subject. I think it is sad people NEED to have their speech regulated because of their willingness to use words to put others in harms way. To be honest, I don't know that it's that so much as the government wanting total control of what gets out and if so how. They could do that quite effectively with television, radio and even print, but with the internet they can't and that's become more and more evident as the web has grown. Realizing that, they're trying now to take back the power they lost. |
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 For example,there was a medical emergency such as a widespread viral outbreak,and a group of people take it upon themselves to perpetrate a hoax rumor that the vaccine for the viral outbreak was dangerous and the cause of the illness.Many thousands of people belive this hoax rumor and avoid the vaccination,thereby endangering many more lives.The virus spreads throughout society because so many people did not recieve the vaccination because of the hoax rumor and millions of innocent children and elderly people lose their lives for no reason.Should the perpetrators of the hoax rumor be identified and prosecuted for the deaths?I think so.
And what if those people are right? What then?  Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations. Vaccinations are a blessing to all mankind.Doctors and medical specialist are the only people that would be able to make a determination about a scenario you speak of. So how would some uneducated clowns even find out about something like that to begin with? That should be a clue that something like this would be a hoax.
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Sat 10/24/09 05:18 PM
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For example,there was a medical emergency such as a widespread viral outbreak,and a group of people take it upon themselves to perpetrate a hoax rumor that the vaccine for the viral outbreak was dangerous and the cause of the illness.Many thousands of people belive this hoax rumor and avoid the vaccination,thereby endangering many more lives.The virus spreads throughout society because so many people did not recieve the vaccination because of the hoax rumor and millions of innocent children and elderly people lose their lives for no reason.Should the perpetrators of the hoax rumor be identified and prosecuted for the deaths?I think so.
And what if those people are right? What then? Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations. Vaccinations are a blessing to all mankind.Doctors and medical specialist are the only people that would be able to make a determination about a scenario you speak of. So how would some uneducated clowns even find out about something like that to begin with? That should be a clue that something like this would be a hoax.
Research maybe? It is possible for people to do their homework you know. You're playing devil's advocate aren't you? lol |
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Yeah, free speech is always a touchy subject. I think it is sad people NEED to have their speech regulated because of their willingness to use words to put others in harms way. We are not allowed to yell "Fire" in a crowded theater. We are not allowed to perpetrate hoaxes. I believe if someone perpetrates a vaccination hoax, and thousands of people lose their lives,then the people who participated in that hoax should be held accountable for the deaths of innocent people
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For example,there was a medical emergency such as a widespread viral outbreak,and a group of people take it upon themselves to perpetrate a hoax rumor that the vaccine for the viral outbreak was dangerous and the cause of the illness.Many thousands of people belive this hoax rumor and avoid the vaccination,thereby endangering many more lives.The virus spreads throughout society because so many people did not recieve the vaccination because of the hoax rumor and millions of innocent children and elderly people lose their lives for no reason.Should the perpetrators of the hoax rumor be identified and prosecuted for the deaths?I think so.
If we start regulateing the statements on line then people will be dumb enough to think that if it were a lie someone would stop them. At least on the net there is still a thing of credibility needing to be proved. |
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For example,there was a medical emergency such as a widespread viral outbreak,and a group of people take it upon themselves to perpetrate a hoax rumor that the vaccine for the viral outbreak was dangerous and the cause of the illness.Many thousands of people belive this hoax rumor and avoid the vaccination,thereby endangering many more lives.The virus spreads throughout society because so many people did not recieve the vaccination because of the hoax rumor and millions of innocent children and elderly people lose their lives for no reason.Should the perpetrators of the hoax rumor be identified and prosecuted for the deaths?I think so.
If we start regulateing the statements on line then people will be dumb enough to think that if it were a lie someone would stop them. At least on the net there is still a thing of credibility needing to be proved. Free speech is regulated now for public safety It is unlawful to start a riot We are not allowed to yell "Fire" in a crowded theater.We are not allowed to perpetrate hoaxes.I believe if someone perpetrates a vaccination hoax,and thousands of people lose their lives,then the people who participated in that hoax should be held accountable for the deaths of innocent people
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Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations. Vaccinations are a blessing to all mankind.Doctors and medical specialist are the only people that would be able to make a determination about a scenario you speak of. So how would some uneducated clowns even find out about something like that to begin with? That should be a clue that something like this would be a hoax.
And what if, such as is being researched heavily right now, these vaccines are directly linked to the steep rise in Autism in children. Are those vaccinations still such a " blessing " then, Mirror?? |
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Sat 10/24/09 05:28 PM
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Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations. Vaccinations are a blessing to all mankind.Doctors and medical specialist are the only people that would be able to make a determination about a scenario you speak of. So how would some uneducated clowns even find out about something like that to begin with? That should be a clue that something like this would be a hoax.
And what if, such as is being researched heavily right now, these vaccines are directly linked to the steep rise in Autism in children. Are those vaccinations still such a " blessing " then, Mirror?? There is no evidence of that. And even if it WAS true then its not the vaccination ITSELF that causes it but a chemical in the vaccine that causes it.
Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations
If thousands of people die from a hoax rumor then the people responsible should be brought to justice
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How did this thread become a vaccine thread? This is about the internet regulation not the goddamn vaccine.
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Sat 10/24/09 06:13 PM
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 Example:Hoax rumors get spread via the internet.Hence, the potential need for regulation
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How did this thread become a vaccine thread? This is about the internet regulation not the goddamn vaccine.  Well said,my friend. Another Mingle thread gone Imagine that. be seeing you
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Edited by
heavenlyboy34
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Sat 10/24/09 06:12 PM
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Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations. Vaccinations are a blessing to all mankind.Doctors and medical specialist are the only people that would be able to make a determination about a scenario you speak of. So how would some uneducated clowns even find out about something like that to begin with? That should be a clue that something like this would be a hoax.
And what if, such as is being researched heavily right now, these vaccines are directly linked to the steep rise in Autism in children. Are those vaccinations still such a " blessing " then, Mirror?? There is no evidence of that. And even if it WAS true then its not the vaccination ITSELF that causes it but a chemical in the vaccine that causes it.
Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations
If thousands of people die from a hoax rumor then the people responsible should be brought to justice
According to the US Court of federal claims, there is a connection. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57629 "The federal government continues to deny a link between vaccines and autism, but the U.S. Court of Federal Claims has ruled in favor of a child alleged to have regressed into autism as a result of vaccinations." |
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Yeah, free speech is always a touchy subject. I think it is sad people NEED to have their speech regulated because of their willingness to use words to put others in harms way. This is not possible, because there is no objective measure of "harm" caused by "free speech". Speech is already limited enough by the Constitution (libel and slander can be prosecuted)and various State constitutions. |
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Did they get the OK from ALGORE? Doesn't he have the patent of discovery?
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Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations. Vaccinations are a blessing to all mankind.Doctors and medical specialist are the only people that would be able to make a determination about a scenario you speak of. So how would some uneducated clowns even find out about something like that to begin with? That should be a clue that something like this would be a hoax.
And what if, such as is being researched heavily right now, these vaccines are directly linked to the steep rise in Autism in children. Are those vaccinations still such a " blessing " then, Mirror?? There is no evidence of that. And even if it WAS true then its not the vaccination ITSELF that causes it but a chemical in the vaccine that causes it.
Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations
If thousands of people die from a hoax rumor then the people responsible should be brought to justice
According to the US Court of federal claims, there is a connection. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57629 "The federal government continues to deny a link between vaccines and autism, but the U.S. Court of Federal Claims has ruled in favor of a child alleged to have regressed into autism as a result of vaccinations." Hey now. The Court may say there is a connection....but the Government insists there isn't. Who ya gonna believe?? The Government would never lie to us. |
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And even if it WAS true then its not the vaccination ITSELF that causes it but a chemical in the vaccine that causes it.
Come on Mirror. That is nothing more than semantics. The vaccine contains the chemicals that are causing Autism. After all the decades of being told that we HAVE to get those vaccines, quibbling over the language is absurd. The chemicals in the vaccine MAKE UP the vaccine. Therefore, the vaccination does ( theoretically but being researched and becoming more and more factual ), indeed, cause Autism. |
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Edited by
Atlantis75
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Sat 10/24/09 07:00 PM
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I'm not sure if someone has already mentioned this...the proposal for mandatory worldwide identification and regulation of the internet was actually pitched to the governments of America and the EU by Eugene Kapersky, the co-founder and CEO of Kaspersky Lab.
Ironic that the idea of worldwide regulation and mandatory identification would come from someone who has made millions selling security and privacy software keeping people from tracking your usage. It's not an entirely bad idea, but it's a double edged sword. It would give lawmakers the basis to strip away privacy rights allowing immediate access to usage logs without the need for suspicion which would be a huge step in stopping major problems like kiddie porn but it would also open the possibility of unauthorized 3rd parties accessing your information and opening the door for massive identity theft. |
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I had heard somewhere that you will not be able to make anti Obama comments online without them being "regulated".
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Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations. Vaccinations are a blessing to all mankind.Doctors and medical specialist are the only people that would be able to make a determination about a scenario you speak of. So how would some uneducated clowns even find out about something like that to begin with? That should be a clue that something like this would be a hoax.
And what if, such as is being researched heavily right now, these vaccines are directly linked to the steep rise in Autism in children. Are those vaccinations still such a " blessing " then, Mirror?? There is no evidence of that. And even if it WAS true then its not the vaccination ITSELF that causes it but a chemical in the vaccine that causes it.
Every year,for thousands of years,thousands and sometimes even millions of people used to die before the invention of vaccinations
It would make more sense to credit those thousands/millions of lives saved to improved sanitation and general health/living standards than to vaccination. Back in the days when people died en masse, refrigeration and electricity were also rare. You leave out MANY variables, greatly misleading those who may read your post. |
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