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Topic: moment of clarity
Edy_ca's photo
Fri 10/23/09 08:51 PM
have you ever had that moment of clarity when it almost felt like you were outside looking in. it's kind of hard for me to explain, but it just felt like everything made sense and yet i understood nothing...but at the same time it just felt like my mind just opened its self up to the entire universe...and nothing looks the same anymore...
it was such a spontaneous thing for, while in the car with my best friend...nothing really brought it on...
i know i'm talking in circles...


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Fri 10/23/09 08:59 PM
Actually in the book Live, Laugh, Love that is a state of zen, it has to do with meditation and there is a name for it, it happens once in a while, even when not meditating where everything seems right with everything, and this sense of well being comes over you, you can get it with meditation, but you can get it with out, and it just comes over you, I have had that same feeling, it is a great feeling, I think I can relate....read that book it is good.

Italy0219's photo
Fri 10/23/09 09:00 PM
Dont' know if that is what you are talking about, but it sounds close to it...flowerforyou

Ladylid2012's photo
Fri 10/23/09 09:02 PM
Yep, I understand. flowerforyou
Those are the rare glimpses we are given on occasion...
Just another reason why I meditate. Sometimes it can be days later when the aha moment comes. It's a beautiful thing.

Italy0219's photo
Fri 10/23/09 09:03 PM
Men never get this...laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

Edy_ca's photo
Fri 10/23/09 09:05 PM
i am not sure...it sounds close...i will read the book...i must admit that i have never meditated so i am not sure...
it was kinda of like i was able to think out side of the box...i mean i am an open minded person, accepting, tolerant etc...but it was kind of like i could understand for the first time what forever means, and how i am a part of a bigger picture, but at the same time i an individual and i don't have to follow suit...
i'm talking crazy, right shocked

Italy0219's photo
Fri 10/23/09 09:08 PM
Of Course you aren't, don't be silly, but what were you smoking, smokin I'm just kidding, each has his own experiences, yours sounds great.

Edy_ca's photo
Fri 10/23/09 09:11 PM
btw, that is way i made this comment here http://mingle2.com/topic/show/247522?page=5

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INTUITION {I} (a gut feeling/instinct, a hunch, a 6th sense) IS a hidden resource that most of people seem to possess, but apparently don’t employ on a regular basis as, for instance, reading, writing, speaking. All of those activities are intellectual in nature -- rooted in Thinking. Consequently, an {I} must have something in common with Intellectual capability and/or Knowledge (?) However, it isn’t exactly appear to be the Knowledge {K} in itself (i.e. a learnt, stored Information), but rather an AWARENESS of the Information which hasn't been stored and/or learnt previously! (although, it’s doubtful whether perceiving anything is possible without an idea of what the Information is about...-- thus, some familiarity with the subject matter would be necessary!) Nevertheless, {I} is not the same as Knowledge! ***In fact, even the dictionary defines Knowledge and Reason as ANTONIMS to [u[Intuition (which is defined as “The act or faculty of knowing or sensing without the use of rational processes; immediate cognition of something not evident or deducible ”)!!! Although that leaves 2 less values out of consideration, still the mechanism of the occurrence remains largely an enigma!

Some people are naturally intuitive, while most of the others are far from being so. Yet, everyone has the capability – to a greater or lesser degree. However, with practice, anyone can develop the “magical” ability…
Perhaps, an intense focus appears to be necessary for Intuition to occur -- suddenly, you get enlightened with the answer! As though one is getting an insight into the answer (although an Insight is identical to the intuitive awareness…) Still, just as often, you get nothing – probably, the {I} hasn’t kicked in, yet, or the focus isn't intense enough?...)

Have you ever experienced regrets of not following your gut instincts? I know, I have: usually, when faced with the decision, an idea would pop up in my mind out of nowhere -- totally illogical, totally unreasonable, often one of the first hypothesis (and, therefore, the most often overlooked one) -- because, when I tried to reason it out, it wouldn't appear as practical... And yet, afterwards, I'd be thinking regretfully -- I should've listened to my Inner Voice (i.e. Intuition)!..

Yet, recognizing the intuitive thoughts from the multitude of various other conjectures, going through one's mind, doesn't always (if ever) appear possible! They look and feel like any other conjecture – even less logical than the rest… Yet, acquiring the mastery of Intuition is one of the secrets of WISDOM – wise people may not always know the answer, yet they’ve acquired the habit of trusting their Intuition!!! (and the same, I suspect, may be said of “INGENUITY”!!!)
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Puzzles, Puzzles, Puzzles -- the nature of life! Yet, sooner or later, most of puzzles eventually turn into the "pieces of cake" (with lots of crumbs smile )! However, until then, keep on thinking intensely... think and maybe we will crack the enigma of Intuition… (? ? ?)

P.S. People of Previous Civilizations are said to have possessed a third "wisdom" eye! Who knows, may be that has mutated into the yet undiscovered ability -- which we refer to as Intuition? ? ?

bigsmile I believe itflowerforyou

Well, if you believe it, that means YOU're REALLY WISE!!! Are you really??? bigsmile
flowerforyou I have been realizing a lot of things recently.bigsmileI am becoming more aware of the universe around me and the messages it is sending meflowerforyou


you've been smoking pot too...me too drinks


because i could totally relate to how he is realizing a lot things recently...and inadvertently made a stupid comment...


Edy_ca's photo
Fri 10/23/09 09:11 PM

Of Course you aren't, don't be silly, but what were you smoking, smokin I'm just kidding, each has his own experiences, yours sounds great.


funny you should mention, cause my friend asked me the same thing lol

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Fri 10/23/09 09:14 PM

i am not sure...it sounds close...i will read the book...i must admit that i have never meditated so i am not sure...
it was kinda of like i was able to think out side of the box...i mean i am an open minded person, accepting, tolerant etc...but it was kind of like i could understand for the first time what forever means, and how i am a part of a bigger picture, but at the same time i an individual and i don't have to follow suit...
i'm talking crazy, right shocked


Sounds as though you have been given a gift...and it is important to you. There is a saying...When the student is ready, the teacher appears.
Sounds like your ready for spirit, the universe, God...whatever you want to call it, to come into your life and guide you.
I don't think your talking crazy at all.

Edy_ca's photo
Fri 10/23/09 09:20 PM


i am not sure...it sounds close...i will read the book...i must admit that i have never meditated so i am not sure...
it was kinda of like i was able to think out side of the box...i mean i am an open minded person, accepting, tolerant etc...but it was kind of like i could understand for the first time what forever means, and how i am a part of a bigger picture, but at the same time i an individual and i don't have to follow suit...
i'm talking crazy, right shocked


Sounds as though you have been given a gift...and it is important to you. There is a saying...When the student is ready, the teacher appears.
Sounds like your ready for spirit, the universe, God...whatever you want to call it, to come into your life and guide you.
I don't think your talking crazy at all.


it was a good peaceful feeling...and it felt like weight has been listed of my chest...
could have also been some isolated chemical imbalance spock

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Fri 10/23/09 09:23 PM
I was sittin' in the bar, first drink of the day, and I realized if I didn' get out I would continue to drink forever, or get sucked into a 'black hole' I got up and left that bar, haven't had a drink or done drugs since, 28 yrs now.

Edy_ca's photo
Fri 10/23/09 09:32 PM

I was sittin' in the bar, first drink of the day, and I realized if I didn' get out I would continue to drink forever, or get sucked into a 'black hole' I got up and left that bar, haven't had a drink or done drugs since, 28 yrs now.


you know for some time now i have been avoiding alcohol. i used to like to get a doulbe shot of vodka and chase it with beer, no i'm lucky if i have a glass of wine...

wux's photo
Fri 10/23/09 09:37 PM
Edited by wux on Fri 10/23/09 09:45 PM

have you ever had that moment of clarity when it almost felt like you were outside looking in. it's kind of hard for me to explain, but it just felt like everything made sense and yet i understood nothing...but at the same time it just felt like my mind just opened its self up to the entire universe...and nothing looks the same anymore...
it was such a spontaneous thing for, while in the car with my best friend...nothing really brought it on...
i know i'm talking in circles...


I've had friends who told me they had this moment, and some of those were atheists, some not.

It happens. That's all that we can safely say about it.

My private opinion is that your brain chemistry goes in waves, sometimes you have too little of this natural and needed chemical, sometimes you have too much of another. But there are times, as in your case, when in a person's brain all the chemicals line up just so, in perfect amounts and proportions.

Since in the human body the productions of chemicals (enzymes, hormones, etc.) is controlled on feed-back systems, and since each production depends on multiple feedback-systems, it is not easy to pruduce the state you experienced, and it just happens when you're lucky enough to have it happen. I don't believe in luck, I just mean to say you or anyone else could not help you achieve this state, it happens or not, without our intentional influence.

How long did the experiene last? Approximately. I suspect you lost your sense of time during the event, but you still must have some knowledge of how long the rapture lasted.

I would even say that someone dropped something in your drink. But such a rapturous feeling of clarity can't be achieved by imbibing; it needs smoking (like crack) or snorting (cocaine) or shooting up (intravenous heroine or morphine). Imbibed or swallowed street drugs have effects, but not as profoundly happy as the one you described. They have... well, different effects.

Edy_ca's photo
Fri 10/23/09 09:55 PM


have you ever had that moment of clarity when it almost felt like you were outside looking in. it's kind of hard for me to explain, but it just felt like everything made sense and yet i understood nothing...but at the same time it just felt like my mind just opened its self up to the entire universe...and nothing looks the same anymore...
it was such a spontaneous thing for, while in the car with my best friend...nothing really brought it on...
i know i'm talking in circles...


I've had friends who told me they had this moment, and some of those were atheists, some not.

It happens. That's all that we can safely say about it.

My private opinion is that your brain chemistry goes in waves, sometimes you have too little of this natural and needed chemical, sometimes you have too much of another. But there are times, as in your case, when in a person's brain all the chemicals line up just so, in perfect amounts and proportions.

Since in the human body the productions of chemicals (enzymes, hormones, etc.) is controlled on feed-back systems, and since each production depends on multiple feedback-systems, it is not easy to pruduce the state you experienced, and it just happens when you're lucky enough to have it happen. I don't believe in luck, I just mean to say you or anyone else could not help you achieve this state, it happens or not, without our intentional influence.

How long did the experiene last? Approximately. I suspect you lost your sense of time during the event, but you still must have some knowledge of how long the rapture lasted.

I would even say that someone dropped something in your drink. But such a rapturous feeling of clarity can't be achieved by imbibing; it needs smoking (like crack) or snorting (cocaine) or shooting up (intravenous heroine or morphine). Imbibed or swallowed street drugs have effects, but not as profoundly happy as the one you described. They have... well, different effects.


the whole thing lasted maybe 30-40 seconds...but i was left with a better concept of life...it just allows me to dig deeper than before when i try to solve a problem for example again jet lets me get in further....
i dont take rugs, i never seen any of the drugs you are talking about...in person that is...

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Fri 10/23/09 11:10 PM

have you ever had that moment of clarity when it almost felt like you were outside looking in. it's kind of hard for me to explain, but it just felt like everything made sense and yet i understood nothing...but at the same time it just felt like my mind just opened its self up to the entire universe...and nothing looks the same anymore...
it was such a spontaneous thing for, while in the car with my best friend...nothing really brought it on...
i know i'm talking in circles...




YEA I HAVE BUT I WAS HIGH

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Sat 10/24/09 03:37 AM
I will experience Deja vu and it is like I have arrived at a point (location) in time where everything is as it should be given the progression of circumstances.

It is not like a feeling of "fate" but a feeling of the present moment and that I have arrived. (coming from ..perhaps .. somewhere else, like my higher mind, that has a different space-time)

For that second I feel as if I have been here before.

Wikipedia:

Deja vu is the experience of feeling sure that one has witnessed or experienced a new situation previously (an individual feels as though an event has already happened or has happened in the recent past), although the exact circumstances of the previous encounter are uncertain. The term was coined by a French psychic researcher, Émile Boirac (1851–1917) in his book L'Avenir des sciences psychiques ("The Future of Psychic Sciences"), which expanded upon an essay he wrote while an undergraduate. The experience of déjà vu is usually accompanied by a compelling sense of familiarity, and also a sense of "eeriness", "strangeness", or "weirdness". The "previous" experience is most frequently attributed to a dream, although in some cases there is a firm sense that the experience "genuinely happened" in the past.

The experience of déjà vu seems to be quite common among adults and children alike. References to the experience of déjà vu are also found in literature of the past,[1] indicating it is not a new phenomenon. It has been extremely difficult to evoke the déjà vu experience in laboratory settings, therefore making it a subject of few empirical studies. Certain researchers claim to have found ways to recreate this sensation using hypnosis[2]. However, the subject of hypnosis is indeed controversial among some circles, and such data would demand proof that hypnosis is possible as per the manner the study implies



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Sat 10/24/09 08:35 AM


have you ever had that moment of clarity when it almost felt like you were outside looking in. it's kind of hard for me to explain, but it just felt like everything made sense and yet i understood nothing...but at the same time it just felt like my mind just opened its self up to the entire universe...and nothing looks the same anymore...
it was such a spontaneous thing for, while in the car with my best friend...nothing really brought it on...
i know i'm talking in circles...




YEA I HAVE BUT I WAS HIGH


yeah...i wish i were, it would 'splain a lot more laugh

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Sat 10/24/09 10:23 AM
fear is the first enemy of a person of knowledge.
after you beat fear, you face clarity, the second enemy.
after beating clarity, you face power.
if you manage to beat power, you face old age.
old age wins.

Edy_ca's photo
Sat 10/24/09 10:54 AM

fear is the first enemy of a person of knowledge.
after you beat fear, you face clarity, the second enemy.
after beating clarity, you face power.
if you manage to beat power, you face old age.
old age wins.



well close i guess...my understanding is that there are two things in life that are certain;

presbyopia

and

death

all though these are not my own words, they ring true bigsmile

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