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Topic: viruses
averagejoe35's photo
Wed 11/04/09 06:05 PM

Operating System Share Market - October 2009 by Net Application


Operating System Total Market Share

Windows 92.52%
Mac 5.27%
Linux 0.96%
iPhone 0.37%
Java ME 0.35%
Symbian 0.17%
iPod Touch 0.07%
Windows Mobile 0.04%
Playstation 0.03%
Android 0.02%
BlackBerry 0.02%
Palm 0.01%
FreeBSD 0.01%
SunOS 0.01%
Nintendo Wii 0.00%
BREW 0.00%
OpenBSD 0.00%
Nintendo DS 0.00%
Web TV 0.00%
NetBSD 0.00%
SCP 0.00%
HP-UX 0.00%
AIX 0.00%
SCO 0.00%
OpenVMS 0.00%


The day any other OS as the share market of Windows it will be attacked as much and many security holes will be found.

People make me laugh when they say this is better no virus problem with this OS, well wake up people the only reason they have no problem is that no virus (almost none) are ever created to attack those system.

All systems have holes and the only reasons those OS holes haven't been attacked is that no virus/malware/spyware creators looks at them.

If I want to affect as many PC's as possible with my virus I won't attack Linux or Mac but Windows.

I'm not saying Windows is more user friendly then the others OS just it has a big red cross on it's back compare to the others when it comes to creating trouble for everyday PC users.


ok first off let me start off by saying u are right in the united states dominated system is microsoft. and all those other systems are linux except tweeked. all microsoft did was copy all of linux. and a virus is not ment to infect one type of operating system a virus attacks through corrupt files in the internet and every operating system has that. so dont BS me on stuff ur not to sure about. Linux is mostly command line driven and not a GUI. so people literly just cant click and figure **** out they need to know what there doing. plus linux has run levels for differnt reasons. one u have a super user which is charge of your whole system. the other run levels are command line multi user and custom. on custom levels u can put only what u want on there. so i say i want it to be for printing and printing only i can put that there. so there for if u hack my system or a virus gets in my system by people on that run level i can literly just shut down all those apps. somthing windows does not offer. to say windows has good security is like pissing in a bottle and me selling it to u as lemonade. Linux is also the main servers that almost every buisness uses because they are free. there for all those pcs running windows that get infected by the virus get fixed but rarely do servers go down. why is this u say? cause LINUX has 10 times better security. and im not just saying linux but also any unix aka mac's OS's. also alot of people who are hacking and making these viruses to be truthfull are not running windows operating systems. knowing a system and being able to control the command line is a much much more powerfull tool. Just saying that viruses are made to attack one kind of system is complete and utter ********. no matter what kind of virus is made it does one thing it attacks certain aspects of each operating system.

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Wed 11/04/09 06:07 PM
and not to mention that the USA is one of the only countries that mainly use microsoft all of europe preaty much is linux based cause there smart and realize its free

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Wed 11/04/09 09:02 PM
OK...
1. Microsoft was originally a Unix based OS company, who developed windows and took queues from the then popular IBM compatible machines, that were developed Jointly by Xerox and ATT... (Look up Xenix - here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenix)
2. Linux, is a great OS for the IT community, and makes a bullet proof server, there are viruses for Linux, Mac, and others, but they require you to run them in terminal to infect you, except for apple, they just require you to download an infected M4A and run it (ITunes) The issue with Liinux is it's not a good OS for the typical End User..
3. Microsoft also developed the TCP/IP you are using to connect to the internet, so no Microsoft no forum, no internet as we know it.. if not we would still be using Token ring, and Apple Talk.. That sounds fun..


MCSE

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Wed 11/04/09 09:21 PM

I am sure this has been posted, but here it goes...

last night my antivirus program said i had a virus, bloodhound something..then i ran a system check, it showed that as an infected file and then quarantined it. there was also a trojan virus in there. i deleted both from the quarantine..was i supposed to?? it came up with a warning sign but i still deleted it. its not supposed to stay quarantined is it??

im a real lame-o when it comes to stuff like this...

any help?? drinker ohwell


I have been on the internet since Windows 95 and never have run any type of security or virus software and to this day I have never had any problems such as hacking,computer crashing,or any other computer problems.While living in Seattle(Microsoft headquarters)I met a few computer programers and the said the majority of those virus are in the virus programs you buy and of course when they expire that program releases all sorts of nasty viruses to make you think there is a ton of viruses out there to get you to buy another one.There is no doubt in my mind this is true.

Just use some common sense if you are not going to use any security.Never download anything unless you are positive you can trust the site.Never open a file from your E-mails unless you know for sure who sent it.I delete all temp files and cookies on pretty much a daily basis and do a disk cleanup every other day.Every few months I wipe out the hard drive completly and start clean.My computer runs very good by doing this.

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Wed 11/04/09 09:26 PM

But warning if its got into ur registry (happened to my dads computer and im in school for IT and networking and know a good amount) i recommend just first trying to reboot from last known good connection if its still there then just get a flashdrive put everything u need on it and just reformat your whole computer


Really?
I have years of experience with this, as i work with high end "Microsoft" systems with Banks, this option is not allowed, unless you want to spend days rebuilding a system.

1. Microsoft "last known good configuration" sucks.. I am Microsoft Certified, and i am telling you, turn it off, the correct way..
services.msc kill the system restore service, disable, also disable your indexing service, unless you do random searches on your machine for files, it is a total Processor killer...
The reason that it sucks, and books wont tell you, but virus providers will. It stores past virus keys dormant on your machine, if you had an issue, and you clean it out, and you reboot, you are infected.. as it is still their.. being infected by it doesn't require you to run restore..
2. IE8 Sucks, however, so does Firefox, your browser has little to do with viruses, but if you run toolbars, Ask, google, yahoo, mywebsearch(FYI this is a virus), those will infect you since they generate adds to populate the side bars of pages based on your search history. Also your home page has alot to do with this.. AOL.com is horrible for this, so is MSN.com as they run tons of adds.. Your safest search engine is google.. But not with the toolbar..

3. Your registry, in lack of better terms, is the backbone of your machine... If you have been infected, your registry is effected instantaneously, sparse files such as spyware generated by searching will infect your temp file which is a legacy directory in your registry.

4. Copying files to an external will not do any good if you have a virus, some viruses will infect; .mp3,.mpg,.avi or anything that can be executed. All your doing at this point is infecting your fresh build...

Proactive...
Malwarebytes.org great FREE tool that you run manually, it will clean out 95% of all issues..
Norton Antivirus 2009/2010 is a great way to stay safe, it will slow down your machine, but it is still the best...
AVG AV... if you have this, it will NOT protect against active Trojans, and you will never know your infected, well, until you Blue screen...
Trend-Micro - corp version is good, home version sucks..
Sophos - Good home AV, not as good as Norton, but from testing, it does a decent job..
SuperAntiSpyware - Good all in one tool to remove some tough virus issues..
Ccleaner - Requires a semi-advanced end user, but will clean up sparse files and make your machine run faster, and stay clean..
(If you have questions feel free to Drop me an Email, and i will reply with how to configure it here)


This Post was created on a windows XP SP3 Machine running P3 with 256mb of ram.. Boot time is 11 seconds, With Norton 2009 internet security running!

MCSE


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Wed 11/04/09 09:32 PM


I am sure this has been posted, but here it goes...

last night my antivirus program said i had a virus, bloodhound something..then i ran a system check, it showed that as an infected file and then quarantined it. there was also a trojan virus in there. i deleted both from the quarantine..was i supposed to?? it came up with a warning sign but i still deleted it. its not supposed to stay quarantined is it??

im a real lame-o when it comes to stuff like this...

any help?? drinker ohwell


I have been on the internet since Windows 95 and never have run any type of security or virus software and to this day I have never had any problems such as hacking,computer crashing,or any other computer problems.While living in Seattle(Microsoft headquarters)I met a few computer programers and the said the majority of those virus are in the virus programs you buy and of course when they expire that program releases all sorts of nasty viruses to make you think there is a ton of viruses out there to get you to buy another one.There is no doubt in my mind this is true.

Just use some common sense if you are not going to use any security.Never download anything unless you are positive you can trust the site.Never open a file from your E-mails unless you know for sure who sent it.I delete all temp files and cookies on pretty much a daily basis and do a disk cleanup every other day.Every few months I wipe out the hard drive completly and start clean.My computer runs very good by doing this.



I would suggest rather then doing this..
To save you some time..

Download;
Ccleaner, which is a small program that will clean out these files.. and clean up registry crap that gets added...
O&O Defrag - it is an NT4 spin off of a defragment program that will keep your drive running like a top..
And lastly, as long as you dont have a solid state Hard drive.. in which case you shouldn't use O&O either..
Go to start..
Run
Type in CMD
press OK
In the Dos box
Type in Defrag C: -b
the "B" is baseline, which will compress data to the outside of the disk and keep your machine running fast..

If you want ultimate performance specs i will add them too, but i would need to know what you are running... All specs..

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Thu 11/05/09 09:47 AM


But warning if its got into ur registry (happened to my dads computer and im in school for IT and networking and know a good amount) i recommend just first trying to reboot from last known good connection if its still there then just get a flashdrive put everything u need on it and just reformat your whole computer


Really?
I have years of experience with this, as i work with high end "Microsoft" systems with Banks, this option is not allowed, unless you want to spend days rebuilding a system.

1. Microsoft "last known good configuration" sucks.. I am Microsoft Certified, and i am telling you, turn it off, the correct way..
services.msc kill the system restore service, disable, also disable your indexing service, unless you do random searches on your machine for files, it is a total Processor killer...
The reason that it sucks, and books wont tell you, but virus providers will. It stores past virus keys dormant on your machine, if you had an issue, and you clean it out, and you reboot, you are infected.. as it is still their.. being infected by it doesn't require you to run restore..
2. IE8 Sucks, however, so does Firefox, your browser has little to do with viruses, but if you run toolbars, Ask, google, yahoo, mywebsearch(FYI this is a virus), those will infect you since they generate adds to populate the side bars of pages based on your search history. Also your home page has alot to do with this.. AOL.com is horrible for this, so is MSN.com as they run tons of adds.. Your safest search engine is google.. But not with the toolbar..

3. Your registry, in lack of better terms, is the backbone of your machine... If you have been infected, your registry is effected instantaneously, sparse files such as spyware generated by searching will infect your temp file which is a legacy directory in your registry.

4. Copying files to an external will not do any good if you have a virus, some viruses will infect; .mp3,.mpg,.avi or anything that can be executed. All your doing at this point is infecting your fresh build...

Proactive...
Malwarebytes.org great FREE tool that you run manually, it will clean out 95% of all issues..
Norton Antivirus 2009/2010 is a great way to stay safe, it will slow down your machine, but it is still the best...
AVG AV... if you have this, it will NOT protect against active Trojans, and you will never know your infected, well, until you Blue screen...
Trend-Micro - corp version is good, home version sucks..
Sophos - Good home AV, not as good as Norton, but from testing, it does a decent job..
SuperAntiSpyware - Good all in one tool to remove some tough virus issues..
Ccleaner - Requires a semi-advanced end user, but will clean up sparse files and make your machine run faster, and stay clean..
(If you have questions feel free to Drop me an Email, and i will reply with how to configure it here)


This Post was created on a windows XP SP3 Machine running P3 with 256mb of ram.. Boot time is 11 seconds, With Norton 2009 internet security running!

MCSE




ty for all the input. i do not have years of experience and its always good to learn a new thing or two. i know linux is not a great end user but its on a wave. but i thought LAN technology first initionalized by UNIX. and yes i know microsoft was origonally UNIX all bill gates did was copy and paste pretty much. should be called copysoft. but getting back to the point... i thought TCP/IP would have been first established by the military since they originally were the ones started the web for communication purposes. and its just expanded to what it is today. im not positive thus why im throwing this out there

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Sun 11/08/09 12:18 AM



But warning if its got into ur registry (happened to my dads computer and im in school for IT and networking and know a good amount) i recommend just first trying to reboot from last known good connection if its still there then just get a flashdrive put everything u need on it and just reformat your whole computer


Really?
I have years of experience with this, as i work with high end "Microsoft" systems with Banks, this option is not allowed, unless you want to spend days rebuilding a system.

1. Microsoft "last known good configuration" sucks.. I am Microsoft Certified, and i am telling you, turn it off, the correct way..
services.msc kill the system restore service, disable, also disable your indexing service, unless you do random searches on your machine for files, it is a total Processor killer...
The reason that it sucks, and books wont tell you, but virus providers will. It stores past virus keys dormant on your machine, if you had an issue, and you clean it out, and you reboot, you are infected.. as it is still their.. being infected by it doesn't require you to run restore..
2. IE8 Sucks, however, so does Firefox, your browser has little to do with viruses, but if you run toolbars, Ask, google, yahoo, mywebsearch(FYI this is a virus), those will infect you since they generate adds to populate the side bars of pages based on your search history. Also your home page has alot to do with this.. AOL.com is horrible for this, so is MSN.com as they run tons of adds.. Your safest search engine is google.. But not with the toolbar..

3. Your registry, in lack of better terms, is the backbone of your machine... If you have been infected, your registry is effected instantaneously, sparse files such as spyware generated by searching will infect your temp file which is a legacy directory in your registry.

4. Copying files to an external will not do any good if you have a virus, some viruses will infect; .mp3,.mpg,.avi or anything that can be executed. All your doing at this point is infecting your fresh build...

Proactive...
Malwarebytes.org great FREE tool that you run manually, it will clean out 95% of all issues..
Norton Antivirus 2009/2010 is a great way to stay safe, it will slow down your machine, but it is still the best...
AVG AV... if you have this, it will NOT protect against active Trojans, and you will never know your infected, well, until you Blue screen...
Trend-Micro - corp version is good, home version sucks..
Sophos - Good home AV, not as good as Norton, but from testing, it does a decent job..
SuperAntiSpyware - Good all in one tool to remove some tough virus issues..
Ccleaner - Requires a semi-advanced end user, but will clean up sparse files and make your machine run faster, and stay clean..
(If you have questions feel free to Drop me an Email, and i will reply with how to configure it here)


This Post was created on a windows XP SP3 Machine running P3 with 256mb of ram.. Boot time is 11 seconds, With Norton 2009 internet security running!

MCSE




ty for all the input. i do not have years of experience and its always good to learn a new thing or two. i know linux is not a great end user but its on a wave. but i thought LAN technology first initionalized by UNIX. and yes i know microsoft was origonally UNIX all bill gates did was copy and paste pretty much. should be called copysoft. but getting back to the point... i thought TCP/IP would have been first established by the military since they originally were the ones started the web for communication purposes. and its just expanded to what it is today. im not positive thus why im throwing this out there



Naa, it was originally all token ring technology,
their is ComLink lines still up, out their which are usually used by hackers... But i dont get involved with that crap..
If you are feeling daring you can get a good chat client and explore the IRC's out their im sure you can get info on the old gov lines and how to use them..

LOL Mac, Linux, Windows, all copies of somthing..
Hell the new Mac Looks like an exact Rip off of FreeBSD
Hell you can run the MAC front end on Both KDE and Gnome
That makes me LMAO...


Joe if you want to learn about your registry,
Check out...

www.technet.com
www.sysinternals.com -- Not sure if they are around anymore, but they used to make free tools for windows..
www.tweakXP.com

Also sign up for a Microsoft hotmail account, and register with microsoft Technet, you can get free beta downloads..
Like server R2
or at one time the RC of 7..
Hell right now i think you can get office 2k10 as well.

Its hard to get started in this field, because no one gives you a break when you first get out of school..
But if you have any questions about anything feel free to drop me a line..
If i dont know, someone in my team may..

L8tr Man..

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