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if you have a dog and you buy homeowners insurance, they will require you to keep liability for your dog. and it doesnt matter if it is a pit bull or not I've already been through that. I couldn't get homeowner insurance without a special provision for my dogs and if someone sneaks into your yard at night and gets bitten. you are liable In St. Louis - add Chow Chow to that list. 
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Edited by
Quietman_2009
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Mon 10/19/09 07:31 AM
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all dogs can be dangerous
dogs are genetic predators. they hunt and kill even cute little muffy is a genetic descendant of the wolf and those instincts are always there, buried deep down but they are there when they get their chew toy and shake it they are pretending to kill their prey in the right circumstances any dog is dangerous. that is why their humans have a responsibility to maintain positive control over their dogs at all times. Those people who dont are just as much to blame as the dog |
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You cant blame a dog for protecting his family. Its just the jaw strength of "pits" that give them this vicious title. I think the attacks of small dogs is much greater, but they dont do any real damage.
The bad thing is... the leaders of the ban, have never owned a pit before. Its almost like racism. Get to know "someone" before you make a blanket ban of anyone or anything. Dogs are like kids.. they are what they learn to be. Teach them violence and they will be violent. Love them and they hopefully will love you back. |
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You cant blame a dog for protecting his family. Its just the jaw strength of "pits" that give them this vicious title. I think the attacks of small dogs is much greater, but they dont do any real damage. The bad thing is... the leaders of the ban, have never owned a pit before. Its almost like racism. Get to know "someone" before you make a blanket ban of anyone or anything. Dogs are like kids.. they are what they learn to be. Teach them violence and they will be violent. Love them and they hopefully will love you back. I see where you are trying to go with your post but, the main difference between your argument of racism is that these dogs (Pitbulls) are agressive by nature. Yes, some owners have a certain element to teaching them to become nasty but, after it is all said and done it's the dogs nature to attack. The dog should be banned they serve no purpose at all except for fighting... |
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You cant blame a dog for protecting his family. Its just the jaw strength of "pits" that give them this vicious title. I think the attacks of small dogs is much greater, but they dont do any real damage. The bad thing is... the leaders of the ban, have never owned a pit before. Its almost like racism. Get to know "someone" before you make a blanket ban of anyone or anything. Dogs are like kids.. they are what they learn to be. Teach them violence and they will be violent. Love them and they hopefully will love you back. I see where you are trying to go with your post but, the main difference between your argument of racism is that these dogs (Pitbulls) are agressive by nature. Yes, some owners have a certain element to teaching them to become nasty but, after it is all said and done it's the dogs nature to attack. The dog should be banned they serve no purpose at all except for fighting... All dogs as most living things have that survival instinct. I had a pitbull and he was very docile. Now if he felt I was threatened he'd scare the pants off ya, but never bit anyone. |
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You cant blame a dog for protecting his family. Its just the jaw strength of "pits" that give them this vicious title. I think the attacks of small dogs is much greater, but they dont do any real damage. The bad thing is... the leaders of the ban, have never owned a pit before. Its almost like racism. Get to know "someone" before you make a blanket ban of anyone or anything. Dogs are like kids.. they are what they learn to be. Teach them violence and they will be violent. Love them and they hopefully will love you back. I see where you are trying to go with your post but, the main difference between your argument of racism is that these dogs (Pitbulls) are agressive by nature. Yes, some owners have a certain element to teaching them to become nasty but, after it is all said and done it's the dogs nature to attack. The dog should be banned they serve no purpose at all except for fighting... All dogs as most living things have that survival instinct. I had a pitbull and he was very docile. Now if he felt I was threatened he'd scare the pants off ya, but never bit anyone. UGH...you again ;) Yes, and I also know a few but "overall" they are agressive by nature and serve no purpose. Put them down and/or ban them from the states |
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You cant blame a dog for protecting his family. Its just the jaw strength of "pits" that give them this vicious title. I think the attacks of small dogs is much greater, but they dont do any real damage. The bad thing is... the leaders of the ban, have never owned a pit before. Its almost like racism. Get to know "someone" before you make a blanket ban of anyone or anything. Dogs are like kids.. they are what they learn to be. Teach them violence and they will be violent. Love them and they hopefully will love you back. I see where you are trying to go with your post but, the main difference between your argument of racism is that these dogs (Pitbulls) are agressive by nature. Yes, some owners have a certain element to teaching them to become nasty but, after it is all said and done it's the dogs nature to attack. The dog should be banned they serve no purpose at all except for fighting... All dogs as most living things have that survival instinct. I had a pitbull and he was very docile. Now if he felt I was threatened he'd scare the pants off ya, but never bit anyone. UGH...you again ;) Yes, and I also know a few but "overall" they are agressive by nature and serve no purpose. Put them down and/or ban them from the states ban the dogs and the men that normally train these dogs to be overly aggressive  
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Positively not. Give me a break. Make people, owners of dangerous dogs, responsible under the law for any damages they do..
But "outlawing" a specific breed of dog is tilting at windmills. There are actual applications for the pit bull. People in the country use them to hunt ferril hogs. I know what you're going after. You want to make it harder for people to engage in dog fighting but it's more than pitbulls that people use for that. There are puppy mills that breed rhodesian ridgebacks against mastiffs and lots of other breeds to make fighting dogs.. You won't solve the problem of bad dog owners by outlawing certain breeds of dogs. |
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You cant blame a dog for protecting his family. Its just the jaw strength of "pits" that give them this vicious title. I think the attacks of small dogs is much greater, but they dont do any real damage. The bad thing is... the leaders of the ban, have never owned a pit before. Its almost like racism. Get to know "someone" before you make a blanket ban of anyone or anything. Dogs are like kids.. they are what they learn to be. Teach them violence and they will be violent. Love them and they hopefully will love you back. I see where you are trying to go with your post but, the main difference between your argument of racism is that these dogs (Pitbulls) are agressive by nature. Yes, some owners have a certain element to teaching them to become nasty but, after it is all said and done it's the dogs nature to attack. The dog should be banned they serve no purpose at all except for fighting... All dogs as most living things have that survival instinct. I had a pitbull and he was very docile. Now if he felt I was threatened he'd scare the pants off ya, but never bit anyone. UGH...you again ;) Yes, and I also know a few but "overall" they are agressive by nature and serve no purpose. Put them down and/or ban them from the states So are many human males agressive by nature, should we ban them too? I think I'd prefer to keep the pit's at least you can train them easier.. Ok just messing with ya. But pits are not the only dogs capable of agression. |
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Even Chihuahua's can bite as you have said, but it's still all about training and being consistent. Here's my pit/mix and chihuahua. I guarantee you I will bite before they do.   Too cute, love the picture. Sending a smooch winging their way. Lovely kissy faces. Thanks.. The lab/pit has a new home on a fence 10 acre farm with another white sheperd (also a rescue) that was very shy and needed a buddy. I still miss her, but she's got more room to run than I could give her and she's happy to have another larger dog to play with. I still have Munch who is the 2 years old chihuahua in the picture, who now has another rescued black chihuahua to play with. I love animals, sadly here we have no laws that force people to be responsible for their pets, so therefore they aren't in too many cases. I've taken in at least 15 dogs in the last 3 1/2 years and found them permanent homes. Very sad because I can't take them all in. Most of the strays are larger dogs, pit mixes are quite often the larger number of rescues here. Very cool. I work with a couple of rescue groups here, and for me, since I can't take the dogs in, despite wishing I could, I volunteer for transport runs and stuff like that. |
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if you have a dog and you buy homeowners insurance, they will require you to keep liability for your dog. and it doesnt matter if it is a pit bull or not I've already been through that. I couldn't get homeowner insurance without a special provision for my dogs and if someone sneaks into your yard at night and gets bitten. you are liable In St. Louis - add Chow Chow to that list. Heck, down here, if you mention any large breed, you're screwed. A lot of the insurance companies won't even pick you up. |
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You cant blame a dog for protecting his family. Its just the jaw strength of "pits" that give them this vicious title. I think the attacks of small dogs is much greater, but they dont do any real damage. The bad thing is... the leaders of the ban, have never owned a pit before. Its almost like racism. Get to know "someone" before you make a blanket ban of anyone or anything. Dogs are like kids.. they are what they learn to be. Teach them violence and they will be violent. Love them and they hopefully will love you back. I see where you are trying to go with your post but, the main difference between your argument of racism is that these dogs (Pitbulls) are agressive by nature. Yes, some owners have a certain element to teaching them to become nasty but, after it is all said and done it's the dogs nature to attack. The dog should be banned they serve no purpose at all except for fighting... All dogs as most living things have that survival instinct. I had a pitbull and he was very docile. Now if he felt I was threatened he'd scare the pants off ya, but never bit anyone. UGH...you again ;) Yes, and I also know a few but "overall" they are agressive by nature and serve no purpose. Put them down and/or ban them from the states So are many human males agressive by nature, should we ban them too? I think I'd prefer to keep the pit's at least you can train them easier.. Ok just messing with ya. But pits are not the only dogs capable of agression. This is truthful, however. We don't do anything, really, to aggressive men or women. They might get a slap on the wrist, but essentially, that's about it. |
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You cant blame a dog for protecting his family. Its just the jaw strength of "pits" that give them this vicious title. I think the attacks of small dogs is much greater, but they dont do any real damage. The bad thing is... the leaders of the ban, have never owned a pit before. Its almost like racism. Get to know "someone" before you make a blanket ban of anyone or anything. Dogs are like kids.. they are what they learn to be. Teach them violence and they will be violent. Love them and they hopefully will love you back. I see where you are trying to go with your post but, the main difference between your argument of racism is that these dogs (Pitbulls) are agressive by nature. Yes, some owners have a certain element to teaching them to become nasty but, after it is all said and done it's the dogs nature to attack. The dog should be banned they serve no purpose at all except for fighting... All dogs as most living things have that survival instinct. I had a pitbull and he was very docile. Now if he felt I was threatened he'd scare the pants off ya, but never bit anyone. UGH...you again ;) Yes, and I also know a few but "overall" they are agressive by nature and serve no purpose. Put them down and/or ban them from the states companionship is not a purpose??? For that matter most people dont serve a purpose. You have never done anything for me... should you be banned from the states? I am sure many people have been saved from fires, robberies, or even abductions by their pets. Fear can not be a driving factor in this decision. I suggest you get a pit and raise it from a puppy... I am sure you will see things differently. Best dog breed .. BY FAR!! |
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You cant blame a dog for protecting his family. Its just the jaw strength of "pits" that give them this vicious title. I think the attacks of small dogs is much greater, but they dont do any real damage. The bad thing is... the leaders of the ban, have never owned a pit before. Its almost like racism. Get to know "someone" before you make a blanket ban of anyone or anything. Dogs are like kids.. they are what they learn to be. Teach them violence and they will be violent. Love them and they hopefully will love you back. I see where you are trying to go with your post but, the main difference between your argument of racism is that these dogs (Pitbulls) are agressive by nature. Yes, some owners have a certain element to teaching them to become nasty but, after it is all said and done it's the dogs nature to attack. The dog should be banned they serve no purpose at all except for fighting... All dogs as most living things have that survival instinct. I had a pitbull and he was very docile. Now if he felt I was threatened he'd scare the pants off ya, but never bit anyone. UGH...you again ;) Yes, and I also know a few but "overall" they are agressive by nature and serve no purpose. Put them down and/or ban them from the states companionship is not a purpose??? For that matter most people dont serve a purpose. You have never done anything for me... should you be banned from the states? I am sure many people have been saved from fires, robberies, or even abductions by their pets. Fear can not be a driving factor in this decision. I suggest you get a pit and raise it from a puppy... I am sure you will see things differently. Best dog breed .. BY FAR!! Rolls with laughter! Well said! And I totally agree! |
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your picking bits and pieces out to try and make your argument and only making a fool of yourself int eh process. You say Pitts are naturally aggressive, that it is in their nature. But as several people have pointed ut, and this is physical FACT, all dogs are naturally aggressive to begin with, not just pitt bulls in general. You do not ba, attack, kill or whatever a dog, unless that particular dog poses a threat to you or someone else first. And if this happens, then you ban the owner of that dog from ever owning dogs again, if yuo an show that it is through their negligence that the dog attacked.
You cant blame a dog for protecting his family. Its just the jaw strength of "pits" that give them this vicious title. I think the attacks of small dogs is much greater, but they dont do any real damage. The bad thing is... the leaders of the ban, have never owned a pit before. Its almost like racism. Get to know "someone" before you make a blanket ban of anyone or anything. Dogs are like kids.. they are what they learn to be. Teach them violence and they will be violent. Love them and they hopefully will love you back. I see where you are trying to go with your post but, the main difference between your argument of racism is that these dogs (Pitbulls) are agressive by nature. Yes, some owners have a certain element to teaching them to become nasty but, after it is all said and done it's the dogs nature to attack. The dog should be banned they serve no purpose at all except for fighting... |
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Edited by
daniel48706
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Wed 10/21/09 05:18 AM
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dang double posts lol
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My sister and brother-in-law had to have their pitbull, Jackie, put down when she was 11 years old. They had her since she was a puppy, and she was very well trained.
Then they had their first child, and we were all very nervous at first about how the dog would be around the baby. She instantly seemed to be protective towards her, and Sydney (my niece) adored the dog. Everything was fine, until Sydney was able to move around more and get into things. One day she reached for one of her toys and we're guessing Jackie thought it was her toy, and she snapped at Sydney. Thankfully my brother-in-law was right there, so nothing happened. They then paid to put Jackie through some new training thing for pitbulls; they both worked with her a great deal as well. Then only a few months later, Sydney was sitting watching television and Jackie, out of nowhere, ran at her and tried to bite her. Again, my brother-in-law was close, so was able to get to Sydney first. It was very scary for them... Jackie was literally just inches from Sydney's head. They went back to the vet to ask what else they could do, and were told since there had already been an incident she would not even be adoptable because she was considered dangerous. The decision to put her down wasn't taken lightly at all - but there was no other decision to be made. They loved Jackie, but not more than their child. Sharing this story because, in my opinion, it's one version of truth in pitbulls aggressive nature - that no matter how many years someone owns them, or how great they are treated/trained - at any point they can snap and be very dangerous. |
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No, because humans have the unalienable right to property which transcends human government (as Thomas Jefferson would say...or something to that effect).
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You cant blame a dog for protecting his family. Its just the jaw strength of "pits" that give them this vicious title. I think the attacks of small dogs is much greater, but they dont do any real damage. The bad thing is... the leaders of the ban, have never owned a pit before. Its almost like racism. Get to know "someone" before you make a blanket ban of anyone or anything. Dogs are like kids.. they are what they learn to be. Teach them violence and they will be violent. Love them and they hopefully will love you back. I see where you are trying to go with your post but, the main difference between your argument of racism is that these dogs (Pitbulls) are agressive by nature. Yes, some owners have a certain element to teaching them to become nasty but, after it is all said and done it's the dogs nature to attack. The dog should be banned they serve no purpose at all except for fighting... All dogs as most living things have that survival instinct. I had a pitbull and he was very docile. Now if he felt I was threatened he'd scare the pants off ya, but never bit anyone. UGH...you again ;) Yes, and I also know a few but "overall" they are agressive by nature and serve no purpose. Put them down and/or ban them from the states If this is tried, it will result in a large black market for the dogs, and general civil disobedience (like what happened during prohibition and what is still happening with "illicit" drugs) |
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My sister and brother-in-law had to have their pitbull, Jackie, put down when she was 11 years old. They had her since she was a puppy, and she was very well trained. Then they had their first child, and we were all very nervous at first about how the dog would be around the baby. She instantly seemed to be protective towards her, and Sydney (my niece) adored the dog. Everything was fine, until Sydney was able to move around more and get into things. One day she reached for one of her toys and we're guessing Jackie thought it was her toy, and she snapped at Sydney. Thankfully my brother-in-law was right there, so nothing happened. They then paid to put Jackie through some new training thing for pitbulls; they both worked with her a great deal as well. Then only a few months later, Sydney was sitting watching television and Jackie, out of nowhere, ran at her and tried to bite her. Again, my brother-in-law was close, so was able to get to Sydney first. It was very scary for them... Jackie was literally just inches from Sydney's head. They went back to the vet to ask what else they could do, and were told since there had already been an incident she would not even be adoptable because she was considered dangerous. The decision to put her down wasn't taken lightly at all - but there was no other decision to be made. They loved Jackie, but not more than their child. Sharing this story because, in my opinion, it's one version of truth in pitbulls aggressive nature - that no matter how many years someone owns them, or how great they are treated/trained - at any point they can snap and be very dangerous. They had that dog for a long time, it was their baby. Dogs naturally become jealous around a new baby. I'd say the dog also picked up on the parents fear, which might have also made the jealousy worse. Too bad they had to put the dog down, though I guess I understand, just hate to hear that. But it would have been difficult to find it a new home at that age, but a rescue might have taken it.. oh well whats done is done. |
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