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| Topic: Justice of the Peace Will Not Marry Interracial Couples | |
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I may have to agree with the judge. My soon to be ex wife is white and I'm a gook as you can see. When I've married her, there has been stacks of problems after problems. I've told her that when she is married into my family, there is a hierarchy involved and barely any freedom. I live under a strict Asian family household and its crazy enough that most who are outside of our culture cannot hack nor understand it, except for those who had gone great lengths in studying it. Both of my parents had warned me about marrying someone else out of our race or culture because all it does it will just bring problems after problems because they cannot understand how everything works under our families. I think its ok for a white guy to marry an Asian woman but for a gook, like myself to marry someone out of our culture or race, there's going to be major issues. I think I've said enough, I think there isn't anymore I need to say even though I got lots to say and explain. Please don't call yourself a gook. 
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NEW ORLEANS – Louisiana's governor and a U.S. senator joined Friday in calling for the ouster of a local official who refused to marry an interracial couple, saying his actions clearly broke the law.
Republican Gov. Bobby Jindal said in a statement a nine-member commission that reviews lawyers and judges in the state should investigate. "Disciplinary action should be taken immediately — including the revoking of his license," Jindal said. "A justice of the peace is legally obligated to serve the public, all of the public," Quigley said. "Racial discrimination has been a violation of Louisiana and U.S. law for decades. No public official has the right to pick and choose which laws they are going to follow." The entire article can be found here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091016/ap_on_re_us/us_interracial_rebuff |
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The U.S. Supreme Court tossed out any racially-based limitations on marriage in the landmark 1967 Loving v. Virginia case. In the unanimous decision, the court said that "Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State."
Full article may be found here: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/17/interracial.marriage/index.html |
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The U.S. Supreme Court tossed out any racially-based limitations on marriage in the landmark 1967 Loving v. Virginia case. In the unanimous decision, the court said that "Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State." Full article may be found here: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/17/interracial.marriage/index.html 
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People being slaughterd all over the world---and news like this makes the big time---well, the way it goes--
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People being slaughterd all over the world---and news like this makes the big time---well, the way it goes-- How would you like living in the United States and a government official won't marry you because of whom you chose to wed? |
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Despite the song from the 80's WE are NOT the world. We are the United States of AMERICA, and the laws in our own land should be adhered to and enforced before ANYTHING outside of our country is even looked at.
How the hell do we have the right to step up to say, Afghanistan and tell them "you are wrong for persecuting people of different religion; everyone has the right to believe what they believe..." or "You can not tell Jane she can only marry Dick; Jane has the right to choose for herself" When we don't enforce these values and laws in our own country? I am sorry if this offends you but that makes us the biggest hypocrite in existence! People being slaughterd all over the world---and news like this makes the big time---well, the way it goes-- |
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People being slaughterd all over the world---and news like this makes the big time---well, the way it goes-- You don't feel racism these days is still a problem? |
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Yellowrose - 
About Louisiana JPs •Justices of the Peace in Louisiana are elected to serve six-year terms. •They can perform marriage ceremonies. •As the judicial authority of a ward or district, they have jurisdiction in civil matters when the amount in dispute does not exceed $5,000. http://www.jpus.org/aboutjps.htm yeppers. what I posted was a general. each state has it's own laws etc did you see the word can not must in their duties? 
can not must????? I saw they can...and as elected officials they are to go by the laws type really slowly because I am not getting it duties - JOP can perform wedding ceremonies JOP choses not to, how in the world he is breaking the law can = having the ability must = having the obligation  and yes I do what I want
Example: a notary CAN notarize a document. A notary notarizes the party before me but then tells me they CHOOSE not to notarize mine because I am black. There will be a lawsuit,,,,based upon discrimination of a protected class, or at the very least, they are gonna give up the notary service. One cannot take a position that is meant to serve the COMMUNITY and then discriminate against part of the community. |
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if it is his religious belief to not marry someone, then he has the legal right to go thrugh his church to be able to perform marriages. BUT by accepting a GOVERNMENT position, he has agreed to waive his personal beliefs in any such manner. Very simply put, and this is a major problem with society, if your religious beliefs prevent you from doing something, say performing marriage rights to a gay couple, then you have no business accepting a job in which you will be expected to perform a marriage ritual to a gay couple if one asks you to. This all falls underneath seperation of church and state. The church has the legal right to refuse to marry someone due to belief. The state (in this case a justice of the peace) does not have that right. So if his religious beliefs conflict with his job as a justice of the peace, then he does nto qualify for that job and should not be in that position (unless of course as I stated before and marriage is a discretionary act, in which case the j.o.p. has to refuse ALL marriage requests nto just those that go against his personal beliefs) This opens a whole new door. Ok if it's against his belief and is forced to marry this couple, what will happen if a gay couple comes along, will he be then forced to marry although it's against his beliefs or religion? Will they start forcing doctors to kill unborn babies? where will it stop. No, he should not be forced. Because it's his belief he's being chastised for it. Go somewhere else to get married. I think it will open up pandora's box. NO NO NO, not allowing someone to not be in a position like that because of their beliefs is just wrong. The thought of having ALL judges or JP's having the exact same beliefs is pretty damn scary to me. Then it is all one sided and that is a very dangerous way to go. Not something I'd will to go for, never. It is not about beliefs, it is about legality. HE can also CHOOSE to marry a brother and sister, but that does not fall under the LEGAL definition of marriage and would be worthless. The same , at this time in most states, with a same sex marriage. Interracial does NOT fall outside the legal definition and therefore calls for protection from discrimination. |
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Edited by
franshade
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Tue 10/20/09 05:55 AM
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Discrimination is not cool and we should really be beyond that.
The point I have been making and trying to make which has gone beyond anyone's grasp, is that most people here think because one has a job, that they 'must be' serviced, that is not so. Read entire thread, never have I said, mentioned nor implied that I would not do a service because of anyone's color, sex, religion or any other reason, I am saying that 'my' choice to perform any service/duty is at my discretion. I may just not be in the mood, may not feel like it, etc. I lose money when job is not done, but that is 'my' affair, no one elses. I have found it amusing how so many try to prove me wrong, and try to tell me what my job duties are and how I should handle my affairs, that was amusing. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Tue 10/20/09 06:00 AM
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Discrimination is not cool and we should really be beyond that. The point I have been making and trying to make which has gone beyond anyone's grasp, is that most people here think because one has a job, that they 'must be' serviced, that is not so. Read entire thread, never have I said, mentioned nor implied that I would not do a service because of anyone's color, sex, religion or any other reason, I am saying that 'my' choice to perform any service/duty is at my discretion. I may just not be in the mood, may not feel like it, etc. I lose money when job is not done, but that is 'my' affair, no one elses. I have found it amusing how so many try to prove me wrong, and try to tell me what my job duties are and how I should handle my affairs, that was amusing. I can relate to your position. However, in the case of THIS jop, sounds as if he will soon be out of his position. It was a community that got him in and just as easily can call for him to be outed. My daughter is mixed as are many people. God forbid someone in a position of authority ever tell her she cant get married.Who should she marry , I wonder, according to this jop. Should she only marry someone with the EXACT same mixture as her? Race is a laughable concept to base such a thing as marriage on ,,,,,, |
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Discrimination is not cool and we should really be beyond that. The point I have been making and trying to make which has gone beyond anyone's grasp, is that most people here think because one has a job, that they 'must be' serviced, that is not so. Read entire thread, never have I said, mentioned nor implied that I would not do a service because of anyone's color, sex, religion or any other reason, I am saying that 'my' choice to perform any service/duty is at my discretion. I may just not be in the mood, may not feel like it, etc. I lose money when job is not done, but that is 'my' affair, no one elses. I have found it amusing how so many try to prove me wrong, and try to tell me what my job duties are and how I should handle my affairs, that was amusing. I can relate to your position. However, in the case of THIS jop, sounds as if he will soon be out of his position. It was a community that got him in and just as easily can call for him to be outed. This JOP sounds pretty damn stupid to me as well, to think certain thoughts is bad enough, but to be as ignorant as he and voice them out, that was the icing. |
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