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Topic: What do you think of Obama's Nobel Prize?
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Wed 10/14/09 06:56 AM
US President Barack Obama has won the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009. Is he a worthy winner?

The Nobel Committee hailed Mr Obama's "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples", citing his work to rid the world of nuclear weapons.

Mr Obama said that he was "surprised and deeply humbled" by the award and that he did not feel he deserved to be in the company of some of the "transformative figures" who had previously received the award.

The US President was chosen ahead of the likes of Morgan Tsvangirai, Prime Minister of Zimbabwe, who had been a favourite for the award.

Is Barack Obama the right choice for the Nobel Peace Prize? If not, who would you have chosen?

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Wed 10/14/09 07:00 AM
Check some other threads in this forum on the same topic :smile:.

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Wed 10/14/09 07:04 AM
At least 3 or 4 threads on this already.

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Wed 10/14/09 07:05 AM
Oh no, the thread police are on you now!!

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Wed 10/14/09 07:08 AM

Oh no, the thread police are on you now!!


laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 10/14/09 07:11 AM

Oh no, the thread police are on you now!!


Very cute. Hell if he wants to start the endless circular argument again, what the hell.

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Wed 10/14/09 07:12 AM

At least 3 or 4 threads on this already.


Exactly.....not another one. rant

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Wed 10/14/09 07:13 AM
Yep other threads on this one, enjoy reading the variety of views! :wink:

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Wed 10/14/09 07:14 AM
Everyone is blaming him for starting another thread, but instead of letting it die in obsurity, you just have to post your contempt of the thread. Who is really keeping another duplicate topic going people?

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Wed 10/14/09 07:20 AM

Everyone is blaming him for starting another thread, but instead of letting it die in obsurity, you just have to post your contempt of the thread. Who is really keeping another duplicate topic going people?


Aren't you doing the same thing? I nicely said there were other threads on the topic. I see nothing wrong with that. Perhaps he didn't know and now he does?

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Wed 10/14/09 07:27 AM


Everyone is blaming him for starting another thread, but instead of letting it die in obsurity, you just have to post your contempt of the thread. Who is really keeping another duplicate topic going people?


Aren't you doing the same thing? I nicely said there were other threads on the topic. I see nothing wrong with that. Perhaps he didn't know and now he does?

:thumbsup:

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Wed 10/14/09 07:50 AM
where do i find the thead on the topic of the presense other threads on other topics so that i don't waste time posting on a thread who's topic i could have better posted on if i knew of every thread topic covered so that threads with repeated topics such as these won't become yet another outlet for our topicless minds that find topics covered all to often. now am i on topic for once?

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Wed 10/14/09 08:13 AM
Check the forum search engine.....frown

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Wed 10/14/09 08:15 AM

Everyone is blaming him for starting another thread, but instead of letting it die in obsurity, you just have to post your contempt of the thread. Who is really keeping another duplicate topic going people?


I don't see anyone blaming him, just pointing out there are more threads to the same topic.

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Wed 10/14/09 08:20 AM

where do i find the thead on the topic of the presense other threads on other topics so that i don't waste time posting on a thread who's topic i could have better posted on if i knew of every thread topic covered so that threads with repeated topics such as these won't become yet another outlet for our topicless minds that find topics covered all to often. now am i on topic for once?

I had to read that a couple times, but yep your right, I thinkhuh

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Wed 10/14/09 08:29 AM
BREAKING NEWS: This just in!!!



Obama wins the Heisman Trophy after watching a college football game!!!





Sorry ahd to do it. I couldn't stop myself.

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Wed 10/14/09 08:30 AM
Edited by Winx on Wed 10/14/09 08:31 AM
Nobel jury speaks out in defense of Obama prize

OSLO – One judge noted with surprise that President Barack Obama "didn't look particularly happy" at being named the Nobel Peace Prize laureate. Another marveled at how critics could be so patronizing.

In a rare public defense of a process normally shrouded in secrecy, four of the Nobel jury's five judges spoke out Tuesday about a selection they said was both merited and unanimous.

To those who say a Nobel is too much too soon in Obama's young presidency, "We simply disagree ... He got the prize for what he has done," committee chairman Thorbjorn Jagland told The Associated Press by telephone from Strasbourg, France, where he was attending meetings of the Council of Europe.

Jagland singled out Obama's efforts to heal the divide between the West and the Muslim world and scale down a Bush-era proposal for an anti-missile shield in Europe.

"All these things have contributed to — I wouldn't say a safer world — but a world with less tension," he said.

For nine-year Nobel committee veteran Inger-Marie Ytterhorn, Obama's demeanor spoke volumes when he first acknowledged the award during a news conference Friday on the lawn of the White House Rose Garden.

"I looked at his face when he was on TV and confirmed that he would receive the prize and would come to Norway, and he didn't look particularly happy," she told the AP by telephone.

"Obama has a lot of problems internally in the United States and they seem to be increasing. Unemployment, health care reform: They are a problem for him," she said.

She acknowledged there was a risk the prize might backfire on Obama by raising expectations even higher and giving ammunition to his critics. "It might hamper him," Ytterhorn said, because it could distract from domestic issues.

Still, she added: "Whenever we award the peace prize, there is normally a big debate about it" so the Obama controversy was not unexpected.

It was unusual, however, for the Nobel jury to speak out so candidly about their selection.

Even the most seasoned Nobel watchers were surprised by Obama's Nobel — they hadn't expected the U.S. president, who took office barely two weeks before the Feb. 1 nomination deadline, to be seriously considered until at least next year.

Jagland said that was never an issue for the Nobel committee, which followed the guidelines set forth by Alfred Nobel, the Swedish industrialist and inventor of dynamite who established the prize in his 1895 will.

"Alfred Nobel wrote that the prize should go to the person who has contributed most to the development of peace in the previous year," Jagland said.

"Who has done more for that than Barack Obama?"

Aagot Valle, a left-wing Norwegian politician who joined the Nobel panel this year, also dismissed suggestions that Obama was undeserving of the honor.

"Don't you think that comments like that patronize Obama? Where do these people come from?" Valle said from the coastal city of Bergen. "Well, of course, all arguments have to be considered seriously. I'm not afraid of a debate on the Peace Prize decision. That's fine."

World leaders have reacted positively to Obama's Nobel in most cases, the committee said, with much of the criticism coming from the media and Obama's political rivals.

"I take note of it. My response is only the judgment of the committee, which was unanimous," Jagland said.

In announcing the award Friday, the committee, whose members are appointed by the Norwegian Parliament, applauded the change in global mood brought by Obama's calls for peace and cooperation. They also praised his pledges to reduce the world stock of nuclear arms, ease U.S. conflicts with Muslim nations and strengthen the U.S. role in combating climate change.

The White House declined comment on the Nobel judge's latest statements.

However, Obama expressed surprise and humility at Friday's news conference, saying the prize should be considered not a "recognition of my own accomplishments, but rather as an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations."

Nobel Peace Prize selections have often been surrounded by fierce debate. Controversial awards include the 1994 prize shared by Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat and Israeli leaders Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin for Mideast peace efforts, as well as the joint prize to Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and North Vietnamese negotiator Le Duc Tho for a 1973 cease-fire agreement. The Vietnam War continued for two more years.

So the Nobel jury "expected that there would be a discussion" about Obama's award, said Kaci Kullman Five, a former Conservative Party parliamentarian and longtime Nobel committee member.

Valle said the criticism shouldn't overshadow important issues raised by Obama's Nobel.

"Of course I expected disagreement and debate on ... giving him the prize," she said. "But what I want now is that we seriously raise a discussion regarding nuclear disarmament."

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Ritter reported from Stockholm.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091013/ap_on_re_eu/eu_nobel_peace_obama

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Wed 10/14/09 08:32 AM

where do i find the thead on the topic of the presense other threads on other topics so that i don't waste time posting on a thread who's topic i could have better posted on if i knew of every thread topic covered so that threads with repeated topics such as these won't become yet another outlet for our topicless minds that find topics covered all to often. now am i on topic for once?


Please excuse the hysteria. Sometimes we are so very organized and thorough and if anything or anyone should cause a stir in our explicitness, mob rule ensues.flowerforyou

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Wed 10/14/09 08:35 AM

BREAKING NEWS: This just in!!!

Obama wins the Heisman Trophy after watching a college football game!!!


Sorry ahd to do it. I couldn't stop myself.


rofl rofl

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Wed 10/14/09 10:29 AM


Oh no, the thread police are on you now!!


Very cute. Hell if he wants to start the endless circular argument again, what the hell.


I agree (until it morphs into something different and confuses me laugh )

I'll just say....my answers are in the other onesflowerforyou

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