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| Topic: Sheriff Joe Arpaio..gets stripped of Enforcement | |
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Edited by
TelephoneMan
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Mon 10/12/09 08:00 PM
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the united states (at the time it was the new world) itself was founded by immigrants, the pilgrims werent exactly born here. They came over on boats from another country and took the area from the native americans. Kinda funy that now we have a problem with immigrants. We have a problem with illegal immigrants. There is a bit of a difference. Comparing pilgrims to illegal Mexican aliens is like comparing walking on foot to riding in a jet airplane. Our society has evolved, and created laws in the process of evolution, and Pilgrims have absolutely nothing to do with today's ethical dilemma surrounding immigration. Nothing about how we started as a "New World" has anything to do with the dilemma we now face in modern times with poverty on one side of the border, and plenty on the opposite side of the border, and the nature of humans is that they are drawn (as we all would be drawn) to something better than the poverty side. Sheriff Joe has his hands full. He is a by-product of what our system has evolved into, in order to keep the poor at bay, we have developed strict border patrol laws on immigration to keep the poor out. Meanwhile, they can most likely smell the wasteful McDonald's hamburgers... and might get a whiff of the huge stock of groceries and/or retail items available to all in this land of plenty. I'm going to do a little of this border sneaking myself. I live in Michigan, where Detroit's unemployment rate is now 28.9%. http://www.epi-data.org/epinews/epinews20090929.html I'm ready to sneak SOUTH across the Michigan border to any state that has jobs. There sure are no jobs here. 28.9%... nearly 3 out of every ten people here are jobless. And this is the statistics of those reporting job loss to the employment security commission. The actual real figures are even higher. I am a "Michigan Mexican" (just coining a phrase, howbeit a Causcasion man...). I can understand a people who want to get the hell out of a worthless, f--ed up geographical location... ...and it has nothing to do with Pilgrims... BTW... my family name immigrated to Plymouth Rock in the early 1600s (shortly after the Mayflower) aboard a ship by the name of "The Anne"... so I am a Pilgrim, or at least a direct descendant of those who came here as a method in search of religious freedom..... |
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I'm still trying to figure out what he did
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a couple of things I kept noticing in all those articles 1. his department has been audited already several times in the last few years and every audit found him in strict compliance with the law 2. the drive for another investigation seems to be coming from a ACORN petiition I don't care who starts the investigation, if wrong doing is found and you end up getting punished for it that is what happens to all of us, this man is no different. And yet...he's been investigated MULTIPLE times, and has never been found to be doing ANYTHING wrong. So is this just a case of " let's keep forcing investigations until whoever is in charge caves in and give us our way "? Sure seems like it. |
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I don't agree with Joe often, but he's allowed to do what he does under State law-the Feds have no constitutional standing, IMO.
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For those who think only Obama and the Democrats are lax on illegal immigrants, remember the Republicans and Bush led the charge to give them amnesty just a short time ago. Both parties want to get whatever votes they can, and neither one seems to be willing to hold to their claimed convictions when the time comes to sacrifice votes for principles. As for the folks taking about hoarding bullets, be careful how you talk, and what you advocate. We don't need to encourage any more flakes like those who blew up that building in the midwest, killing children in the name of 'freedom.' you're absolutely right and it was conservatives that rose up and forced the congress off of the amnesty bill.. Bush was Governor in Texas before holding the Oval Office and ppl here took extreme offense at his buddy-buddy relationship w/ vicente fox visavis the immigration issue.. most conservatives held on w/ bush up to the point that he and McCain were pushing for amnesty in 07.. after that most bailed on him, yours truely included if all the conservatives were in bush's pocket like all the libs seem to have themselves convinced, they all would have just gone along.. but such wasn't the case.. which is the sole reason you can attribute the stoppage of the passing of that attrocity they were about to pass and probably the main reason McCain didn't enjoy the full support of the conservative establishment in his presidential campaign.. you're welcome.. |
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Really an example of TOO little information. I would love to see the actual DOCUMENTED reasons the action was taken. I'm not trying to be argumentative with you, because I actually completely agree with you here regarding this topic. But, you were doing the same thing to the cops in Nevada and posting that they could and would shoot anyone for anything and get away with it. Just a thought. 
Hi Ruth, I dont consider my statement about an actual incident with cops here in my town to be the same as someones opinion about why an investigation has been launched. I was asking for the official reasons, just as I gave the official reason,,from the cops mouth, of why they shot an unarmed man. I try hard not to generalize, but I also try to use words like I think, or in my opinion, when I am speaking about my own observations. From what I have seen, this town seems very lax on police shootings. From what I have seen, which I will admit isnt loads, Arpaio carries himself like a bigot. I did say however, that I did not know if he had broken any laws and I do realize that being a bigot isnt illegal. I am here to share and learn and I hope noone takes offense to my opinions. I will try to state more clearly when they are just opinions. |
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Thank you, DHS, for ridding us of another Patriot who enforces the Law.
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There is a cause and an effect. The facts are simple. Mexico and Central America are a mess. There is no debate. Your options are live in terrible poverty, under corrupt regimes or take the chance crossing the border. That is about it. NAFTA has completely destroyed the agriculture industry in mexico. We subsidize our farmers and their crops are cheaper for mexico to buy than their own. This is a fact. Most of southern mexicos job base was farming. You have millions without a way to survive and they see one alternative. Do I like the modern day slavery that is the use of illegal alien labor? No I do not. Should any of you take pride in the fact that these people are working for basically nothing? I would hope not. Unfortunately, most people can't get away from the political side of this issue to really be capable of asking themselves is this practice acceptable. You can sit and play the blame game all day long, but it doesn't change the facts. Our government wants these people here. They are poor, uneducated, and will do whatever the puppet masters tell them to do. This amnesty nonsense has nothing to do with compassion. It has to do with the bottomline. Big business, the government taxrolls, and the union pension coffers.. That is what this is about. MONEY.. GREED.. POWER.. i DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THIS BULL... THE ILLEGALS THAT ARE COMEING HERE HAD JOBS DOWN THERE . THEY WERE THE MIDDLE CLASS THERE . THEY CAME FOR MORE MONEY NOT JUST FOR A JOB . THERE WAS A STORY IN THE MEXICO CITY PAPERS THE BUSINESSES DOWN THERE WERE COMPLAINING THAT THEY COULDN'T HIRE GOOD WORKERS BECAUSE THEY HAD ALL HAD CAME HERE .. |
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There is a cause and an effect. The facts are simple. Mexico and Central America are a mess. There is no debate. Your options are live in terrible poverty, under corrupt regimes or take the chance crossing the border. That is about it. NAFTA has completely destroyed the agriculture industry in mexico. We subsidize our farmers and their crops are cheaper for mexico to buy than their own. This is a fact. Most of southern mexicos job base was farming. You have millions without a way to survive and they see one alternative. Do I like the modern day slavery that is the use of illegal alien labor? No I do not. Should any of you take pride in the fact that these people are working for basically nothing? I would hope not. Unfortunately, most people can't get away from the political side of this issue to really be capable of asking themselves is this practice acceptable. You can sit and play the blame game all day long, but it doesn't change the facts. Our government wants these people here. They are poor, uneducated, and will do whatever the puppet masters tell them to do. This amnesty nonsense has nothing to do with compassion. It has to do with the bottomline. Big business, the government taxrolls, and the union pension coffers.. That is what this is about. MONEY.. GREED.. POWER.. i DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THIS BULL... THE ILLEGALS THAT ARE COMEING HERE HAD JOBS DOWN THERE . THEY WERE THE MIDDLE CLASS THERE . THEY CAME FOR MORE MONEY NOT JUST FOR A JOB . THERE WAS A STORY IN THE MEXICO CITY PAPERS THE BUSINESSES DOWN THERE WERE COMPLAINING THAT THEY COULDN'T HIRE GOOD WORKERS BECAUSE THEY HAD ALL HAD CAME HERE .. I have to disagree with this. I knew a couple of illegals. One came here because he didn't have a job down there and he had a family to feed. The other came here because he couldn't make enough money to feed his family. Both sent most of their money home to their families while they lived in a cramped 3 room apt. here with roommates in poor neighborhood. I also heard about the pollution in their city, the police corruption, and their drinking water. |
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