Topic: Why bash obama on this???
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Fri 10/09/09 09:05 AM



To dantheamirican may I ask why you are blaming Obama for Us being in Afghanistan we were there before he was even President so why blame him I know we all want out of that mess over there but we're there and you have to understand that your friends chose the military life knowing we were at war over there, you can't blame the current president for what was already going on you don't know the details of his meeting there you don't know what happened so you can't say that he's a "BAD" president, you have to give him credit for trying to fix all the problems that Bush created while in the white house, We really have to give Obama credit for trying in a world where no one else is.

Ok, you can blame Bush for getting us into the war BUT, you need to point that finger at obama for having NO control over it. Obama is president now whether if it's a day or 9 months...the blames goes to him sooooo STOP blaming Bush, he is not here anymore. And yes, so far obama is a "Bad" president...he has done nothing as of yet except create a big divide between Republicans and Dems.


He created the divide? No, sorry, you need to go back to History 101. There's been a divide in political parties since our 2nd president. And why shouldn't Bush be blamed for the things he had direct control over and failed miserably at doing? Obama's certainly not perfect but it will take a considerable amount of time to regain the control that Bush (and others) are to blame for losing. I think you meant that Obama is responsible for what is going on now. He is taking and shouldering that responsibility. But blame? That would be like me blaming you for your friends' decision to join the military. Pointless and makes absolutely no sense.

What? I'm sorry I guess for your simple mind I should have said "recent divide"
And to deny that...then you are fooling yourself. Yes, you have to blame the man that ran his campaign on blaming Bush for the last 8yrs. Yes, you have to blame the man that has no control over congress. Yes, you have to blame the man that can't make a decision until he has the polls in his favor. Yes, you have to blame the man that is currently having our troops killed bc he is too afraid to put more troops in. Yes, you have to blame the man that wants to have China one day own us. That's YOUR man...the man that YOU voted for. So, please save that garbage that you are spouting to someone else. You don't nedd History 101 but go back to your DVR and just watch the last 2 yrs of your man's empty promises!

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Fri 10/09/09 09:06 AM




To dantheamirican may I ask why you are blaming Obama for Us being in Afghanistan we were there before he was even President so why blame him I know we all want out of that mess over there but we're there and you have to understand that your friends chose the military life knowing we were at war over there, you can't blame the current president for what was already going on you don't know the details of his meeting there you don't know what happened so you can't say that he's a "BAD" president, you have to give him credit for trying to fix all the problems that Bush created while in the white house, We really have to give Obama credit for trying in a world where no one else is.

Ok, you can blame Bush for getting us into the war BUT, you need to point that finger at obama for having NO control over it. Obama is president now whether if it's a day or 9 months...the blames goes to him sooooo STOP blaming Bush, he is not here anymore. And yes, so far obama is a "Bad" president...he has done nothing as of yet except create a big divide between Republicans and Dems.


He created the divide? No, sorry, you need to go back to History 101. There's been a divide in political parties since our 2nd president. And why shouldn't Bush be blamed for the things he had direct control over and failed miserably at doing? Obama's certainly not perfect but it will take a considerable amount of time to regain the control that Bush (and others) are to blame for losing. I think you meant that Obama is responsible for what is going on now. He is taking and shouldering that responsibility. But blame? That would be like me blaming you for your friends' decision to join the military. Pointless and makes absolutely no sense.

Thank you SuzinVA I have nothing more to say you said it all, your one smart cookie.

No, your a Libearl and follow the heard is all :)

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Fri 10/09/09 09:07 AM

I know that you are, you have the same dry sense of humor that I do ;)


Ah well then it's nice to know we have something in common.

See, why can't we all just get along ;)
Bc, it's no fun :D

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Fri 10/09/09 09:07 AM




To dantheamirican may I ask why you are blaming Obama for Us being in Afghanistan we were there before he was even President so why blame him I know we all want out of that mess over there but we're there and you have to understand that your friends chose the military life knowing we were at war over there, you can't blame the current president for what was already going on you don't know the details of his meeting there you don't know what happened so you can't say that he's a "BAD" president, you have to give him credit for trying to fix all the problems that Bush created while in the white house, We really have to give Obama credit for trying in a world where no one else is.

Ok, you can blame Bush for getting us into the war BUT, you need to point that finger at obama for having NO control over it. Obama is president now whether if it's a day or 9 months...the blames goes to him sooooo STOP blaming Bush, he is not here anymore. And yes, so far obama is a "Bad" president...he has done nothing as of yet except create a big divide between Republicans and Dems.


He created the divide? No, sorry, you need to go back to History 101. There's been a divide in political parties since our 2nd president. And why shouldn't Bush be blamed for the things he had direct control over and failed miserably at doing? Obama's certainly not perfect but it will take a considerable amount of time to regain the control that Bush (and others) are to blame for losing. I think you meant that Obama is responsible for what is going on now. He is taking and shouldering that responsibility. But blame? That would be like me blaming you for your friends' decision to join the military. Pointless and makes absolutely no sense.

What? I'm sorry I guess for your simple mind I should have said "recent divide"
And to deny that...then you are fooling yourself. Yes, you have to blame the man that ran his campaign on blaming Bush for the last 8yrs. Yes, you have to blame the man that has no control over congress. Yes, you have to blame the man that can't make a decision until he has the polls in his favor. Yes, you have to blame the man that is currently having our troops killed bc he is too afraid to put more troops in. Yes, you have to blame the man that wants to have China one day own us. That's YOUR man...the man that YOU voted for. So, please save that garbage that you are spouting to someone else. You don't nedd History 101 but go back to your DVR and just watch the last 2 yrs of your man's empty promises!


If it weren't for the insults in this post, it would be a complete and utter joke.

Not one thing is accurate.

What a shame.

look4you's photo
Fri 10/09/09 09:10 AM





To dantheamirican may I ask why you are blaming Obama for Us being in Afghanistan we were there before he was even President so why blame him I know we all want out of that mess over there but we're there and you have to understand that your friends chose the military life knowing we were at war over there, you can't blame the current president for what was already going on you don't know the details of his meeting there you don't know what happened so you can't say that he's a "BAD" president, you have to give him credit for trying to fix all the problems that Bush created while in the white house, We really have to give Obama credit for trying in a world where no one else is.

Ok, you can blame Bush for getting us into the war BUT, you need to point that finger at obama for having NO control over it. Obama is president now whether if it's a day or 9 months...the blames goes to him sooooo STOP blaming Bush, he is not here anymore. And yes, so far obama is a "Bad" president...he has done nothing as of yet except create a big divide between Republicans and Dems.


He created the divide? No, sorry, you need to go back to History 101. There's been a divide in political parties since our 2nd president. And why shouldn't Bush be blamed for the things he had direct control over and failed miserably at doing? Obama's certainly not perfect but it will take a considerable amount of time to regain the control that Bush (and others) are to blame for losing. I think you meant that Obama is responsible for what is going on now. He is taking and shouldering that responsibility. But blame? That would be like me blaming you for your friends' decision to join the military. Pointless and makes absolutely no sense.

What? I'm sorry I guess for your simple mind I should have said "recent divide"
And to deny that...then you are fooling yourself. Yes, you have to blame the man that ran his campaign on blaming Bush for the last 8yrs. Yes, you have to blame the man that has no control over congress. Yes, you have to blame the man that can't make a decision until he has the polls in his favor. Yes, you have to blame the man that is currently having our troops killed bc he is too afraid to put more troops in. Yes, you have to blame the man that wants to have China one day own us. That's YOUR man...the man that YOU voted for. So, please save that garbage that you are spouting to someone else. You don't nedd History 101 but go back to your DVR and just watch the last 2 yrs of your man's empty promises!


If it weren't for the insults in this post, it would be a complete and utter joke.

Not one thing is accurate.

What a shame.

I don't toss insults...and that's your point for everything.
That's not accurate...blah,blah,blah
THEN MAKE IT ACCURATE...
Say something factually and rebut my comments. This is a forum you know.

Kitteh_Kat's photo
Fri 10/09/09 09:17 AM

Obama was unfit and unqualified to even run for President. He admitted so in 2006. He has had only one meeting regarding Afghanistan, which lasted 20 minutes. He is an idiot and his lack of experience, knowledge and decisiveness is getting my friends killed.
We're talking about Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize here, not what he's doing in Afghanistan. Try to keep up.

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Fri 10/09/09 09:18 AM


The war that your upset about is actually Bush's doing, not obama's...
Got that right.

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Fri 10/09/09 09:19 AM

What? I'm sorry I guess for your simple mind I should have said "recent divide"
And to deny that...then you are fooling yourself. Yes, you have to blame the man that ran his campaign on blaming Bush for the last 8yrs. Yes, you have to blame the man that has no control over congress. Yes, you have to blame the man that can't make a decision until he has the polls in his favor. Yes, you have to blame the man that is currently having our troops killed bc he is too afraid to put more troops in. Yes, you have to blame the man that wants to have China one day own us. That's YOUR man...the man that YOU voted for. So, please save that garbage that you are spouting to someone else. You don't nedd History 101 but go back to your DVR and just watch the last 2 yrs of your man's empty promises!


hmmm, simple minded? Never been called THAT before, lots of other names but never that. laugh laugh laugh

I think you are jumping to very broad conclusions, I never said I voted for him, nor did I ever say he was "my" man. You know what they say about people making assumptions, right?

You might want to consider English 101 along with that history class. flowerforyou

InvictusV's photo
Fri 10/09/09 09:19 AM
Yasser Arafat won the damn thing. Its a sham and who really cares..


look4you's photo
Fri 10/09/09 09:21 AM


What? I'm sorry I guess for your simple mind I should have said "recent divide"
And to deny that...then you are fooling yourself. Yes, you have to blame the man that ran his campaign on blaming Bush for the last 8yrs. Yes, you have to blame the man that has no control over congress. Yes, you have to blame the man that can't make a decision until he has the polls in his favor. Yes, you have to blame the man that is currently having our troops killed bc he is too afraid to put more troops in. Yes, you have to blame the man that wants to have China one day own us. That's YOUR man...the man that YOU voted for. So, please save that garbage that you are spouting to someone else. You don't nedd History 101 but go back to your DVR and just watch the last 2 yrs of your man's empty promises!


hmmm, simple minded? Never been called THAT before, lots of other names but never that. laugh laugh laugh

I think you are jumping to very broad conclusions, I never said I voted for him, nor did I ever say he was "my" man. You know what they say about people making assumptions, right?

You might want to consider English 101 along with that history class. flowerforyou

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Fri 10/09/09 09:24 AM


What? I'm sorry I guess for your simple mind I should have said "recent divide"
And to deny that...then you are fooling yourself. Yes, you have to blame the man that ran his campaign on blaming Bush for the last 8yrs. Yes, you have to blame the man that has no control over congress. Yes, you have to blame the man that can't make a decision until he has the polls in his favor. Yes, you have to blame the man that is currently having our troops killed bc he is too afraid to put more troops in. Yes, you have to blame the man that wants to have China one day own us. That's YOUR man...the man that YOU voted for. So, please save that garbage that you are spouting to someone else. You don't nedd History 101 but go back to your DVR and just watch the last 2 yrs of your man's empty promises!


hmmm, simple minded? Never been called THAT before, lots of other names but never that. laugh laugh laugh

I think you are jumping to very broad conclusions, I never said I voted for him, nor did I ever say he was "my" man. You know what they say about people making assumptions, right?

You might want to consider English 101 along with that history class. flowerforyou

I assumed nothing, it for the way that you commented earlier and the way that you are commenting now...YOU ARE A LIBERAL THAT VOTED FOR HIM. You answer questions by trying to pick and choose where you would like to debate me. And guess what you debated everything except the facts that I laid out for you...hmmm, Liberal, yeah I think so

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/09/09 09:29 AM






To dantheamirican may I ask why you are blaming Obama for Us being in Afghanistan we were there before he was even President so why blame him I know we all want out of that mess over there but we're there and you have to understand that your friends chose the military life knowing we were at war over there, you can't blame the current president for what was already going on you don't know the details of his meeting there you don't know what happened so you can't say that he's a "BAD" president, you have to give him credit for trying to fix all the problems that Bush created while in the white house, We really have to give Obama credit for trying in a world where no one else is.

Ok, you can blame Bush for getting us into the war BUT, you need to point that finger at obama for having NO control over it. Obama is president now whether if it's a day or 9 months...the blames goes to him sooooo STOP blaming Bush, he is not here anymore. And yes, so far obama is a "Bad" president...he has done nothing as of yet except create a big divide between Republicans and Dems.


He created the divide? No, sorry, you need to go back to History 101. There's been a divide in political parties since our 2nd president. And why shouldn't Bush be blamed for the things he had direct control over and failed miserably at doing? Obama's certainly not perfect but it will take a considerable amount of time to regain the control that Bush (and others) are to blame for losing. I think you meant that Obama is responsible for what is going on now. He is taking and shouldering that responsibility. But blame? That would be like me blaming you for your friends' decision to join the military. Pointless and makes absolutely no sense.

What? I'm sorry I guess for your simple mind I should have said "recent divide"
And to deny that...then you are fooling yourself. Yes, you have to blame the man that ran his campaign on blaming Bush for the last 8yrs. Yes, you have to blame the man that has no control over congress. Yes, you have to blame the man that can't make a decision until he has the polls in his favor. Yes, you have to blame the man that is currently having our troops killed bc he is too afraid to put more troops in. Yes, you have to blame the man that wants to have China one day own us. That's YOUR man...the man that YOU voted for. So, please save that garbage that you are spouting to someone else. You don't nedd History 101 but go back to your DVR and just watch the last 2 yrs of your man's empty promises!


If it weren't for the insults in this post, it would be a complete and utter joke.

Not one thing is accurate.

What a shame.

I don't toss insults...and that's your point for everything.
That's not accurate...blah,blah,blah
THEN MAKE IT ACCURATE...
Say something factually and rebut my comments. This is a forum you know.


You did insult her and the whole damn thing is WRONG so there can be no debate. School, I recommend school. History of American would be a good start and then current events would be good after that.

I cannot debate ignorancy.

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Fri 10/09/09 09:31 AM
Edited by InvictusV on Fri 10/09/09 09:32 AM
This is a forum where factual accuracy doesn't mean much.

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Fri 10/09/09 09:33 AM


You did insult her and the whole damn thing is WRONG so there can be no debate. School, I recommend school. History of American would be a good start and then current events would be good after that.

I cannot debate ignorancy.


Thanks Dragoness. I actually find the insults rather amusing. It proves a point that when someone doesn't have anything intelligent to say and cannot back up what they are saying, they resort to bullying, name-calling and in some cases (in the real world), physical violence. It stems from ignorance, fear, and insecurity. We should feel sorry for this person, to be so continually wrapped up in all that hate and negativity.


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Fri 10/09/09 09:35 AM


He created the divide? No, sorry, you need to go back to History 101. There's been a divide in political parties since our 2nd president.
You cannot deny that the divide is bigger than ever, and it started with Bush in 2004, and has carried over to Obama, who as far as I'm concerned is just another dirty politician... just like Bush and his predecessors.

InvictusV's photo
Fri 10/09/09 09:35 AM
What this forum does espouse is selective memory and revisionist history.

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Fri 10/09/09 09:40 AM



He created the divide? No, sorry, you need to go back to History 101. There's been a divide in political parties since our 2nd president.
You cannot deny that the divide is bigger than ever, and it started with Bush in 2004, and has carried over to Obama, who as far as I'm concerned is just another dirty politician... just like Bush and his predecessors.


Oh, I'm not saying the divide isn't huge (needlessly, but that's another topic). I'm simply saying that the divide has existed to varying degrees since John Adams. It cycles, too. This is certainly not the biggest we've had (i.e., the Civil War years). It has been growing incrementally, IMO, since probably Kennedy. I don't think there's been a presidency since him (and since I wasn't alive then, I'm going by hearsay) where people of both parties were more united.

It's a pity that we as a people allow this to happen. I think that probably 10% are extremists at each end of the political spectrum. Then there's the 80% of us in the middle who are just trying to muddle our way through the best way we know how. But we cannot blame the politicians, really. We have to blame ourselves. We still keep voting the professional politicians in. We *****, moan and complain, yet we still do it. We allow them to manipulate us. I think it's high time we took the power back. But, I don't believe that will happen, short of another civil war.

Kitteh_Kat's photo
Fri 10/09/09 09:58 AM

What this forum does espouse is selective memory and revisionist history.
Which isn't a trait unique to this particular forum.

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Fri 10/09/09 10:57 AM
the ways here in this forum is one side bashes the other side. all sides do this. Nature of the beast laugh

I am an equal opportunity basherlaugh

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Fri 10/09/09 11:13 AM

the ways here in this forum is one side bashes the other side. all sides do this. Nature of the beast laugh

I am an equal opportunity basherlaugh


laugh

Good one yellowrose!!

I have noticed though that when one does not agree, some of the liberals on here misconstrue what was said and throw the race or hate card.

Thank goodness for a free Country to have all these opinions whether we like them or not :thumbsup: