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Topic: Man can surpass any God!
davidben1's photo
Sun 10/18/09 09:54 PM
it seems that to elevate oneself higher than god, it would have to "know" more than god, so, it would likewise be able to "do" more than god, was said to have done...

which, if it be the god spoken of in the "biblical" text, means one woud have to first create a cosmos identical to our's...

or so it would seem using the "current interpretation's" of the biblical "god", lol...

but, on the other hand, text also say's each human is a king, and each a priest, and each a child god, that created itself, picking it's own path, or experience before arrival, to amke itself smarter, or wiser, by seperating itself into "two", half of itself in the human realm, the other half in the "god realm"...

saying each has a telepathic connection to the "higher realm", that is instructing it in how to love, or have courage, or valor, and that such things are only rooted, or founded in the principle of "the care of other's before self"...

then continuing to say, when such is learned as the true want, the two become as one, and "it" become's an adult god...

during this "transition", from human, to angel, or into adult god, it is likened unto a snake shedding it's skin, and the caterpiller entering the cacoon, and morphing into the butterfly, saying man would not 'always' be limited to having to "walk or crawl" upon the ground...

ok, seem to be leaving the subject of courage, lol...

peace

jrbogie's photo
Mon 10/19/09 08:41 AM


loose according to who? if you think its about winning or loosing, than my part in this is over.
sky, when did i say she was being sarcastic? quote me please. and if i did, was she being srcastic? can you tell the difference between sarcastic and a compliment? i know i can.

ready i can argue every single point you bring up! but why? you and 99 % of people on this site are two close minded to ever even consider your wrong.
its rediculous, childish

this is not a contest. its not ment to see if you can prove someone wrong. if you guys have that mindset, than i promise you, you will not get very far.

did i not conceed my point when someone showed me a logical reason to do so? yes i did. why? BECAUSE I WANT TO LEARN, NOT TO SHOW YOU HOW SUPIRIOR I AM.

i am 20 years old, no formal education yet, and i feel like im in high scool. i wont play these games with any of you.
so bask in your victory, but what did you really win ready?

its disturbing, almost heartbreaking that someone with the knowledge you posess would use it to redicule and attempt dislodge someones beliefs or thinking, instead of discussing a subject and giving them a new perspective or even helping them understand why.

but youl justify it, right?



I have had my 'beliefs' dislodged many times for the sake of knowledge. I remember when I was 20. I was certain I was right. More than once I was proved beyond any doubt that I had been very wrong. Hence, I changed my beliefs. I am 60 years old now. I know a lot more. I have different beliefs.

Beliefs change. You are not your beliefs. If you hold onto your beliefs as if you think they are you, then you will not learn much, and you will have what is called "a closed mind."

I have many 'beliefs."

and yet..

The only thing I am certain of is that I exist.






this is precisely the reason i no longer believe anything and consider myself agnostic. when one's beliefs change or or become dislodged then how valid were the beliefs in the first place? to believe is to think you know in my view. my daughter, a devout christian, says that she KNOWS that god created the universe. she doesn't even use the word belief. she has faith that what the bible says is fact. she knows these things. i don't know anything as absolute fact other than my experiences.

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Mon 10/19/09 08:53 PM
Within the cosmos i stand. On this earth , above me the stars , above me the entrails of energies and wonders i cannot begin to imagine. In awe i tread the universe , the world before me . In reverence i behold all things. for who am i . Wonders my eys have yet to behold within this world i habitate.In the moment , in infinity i am i stand without contentions without rebuttal but with acceptance as one with the universe.

davidben1's photo
Mon 10/19/09 09:18 PM

Within the cosmos i stand. On this earth , above me the stars , above me the entrails of energies and wonders i cannot begin to imagine. In awe i tread the universe , the world before me . In reverence i behold all things. for who am i . Wonders my eys have yet to behold within this world i habitate.In the moment , in infinity i am i stand without contentions without rebuttal but with acceptance as one with the universe.


wise words any calibur of entity would understand as wisdom, be such as these, as for eye's such as these, the universe unfold her secret's for, and roll back the scrolls of the mind for, to allow sight past the veil, that seperate all arrogance as ignorance from true all knowing......

piece to piece bind the blind, the knowing be built, each ripple each tide, no guilt can stand, and nothing can hide, for the universe dear brother, is about to unwind, spilling her water's the secret's of all time, and the rains did come down, and open each book the brain's, each life need no hope no leader no pope, unroll the scroll and each pay their self toll, the reaper itself come to blame, what itself did make itself now come to claim...

peace

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